HEPS Track and Field 2012-13

Thanks for the update, C/M! I know that there's a lot of work involved.

While your compilation has Harvard's women well back in third, I've yet to encounter anyone who considers them worse than co-favorites for outdoor Heps. The main reason, I think, is that so many of the Harvard marks on your list are from this year--or at least belong to women who've been competing in the last few weeks. Columbia and Cornell, by contrast, have a number of top women who've been DNC the entire outdoor season--you have to wonder whether they'll be available for outdoor Heps (just 2 1/2 weeks away, now).

Anyway, having put together a few virtual scorings--just from *one* season's performance list--I can really understand how much effort you and fun. must put into your updates. Much obliged.

One note: I see that you have K. Kellner listed twice in the 5,000m. Now that I *know* is an undoable double!

Wow, here's a strange one: the Cornell sports website is saying that the Big Red's meet at Binghamton U., that was scheduled for Saturday, is being moved to Friday "due to concerns about the weekend weather." But the National Weather Service sees a 40% chance of showers on Saturday in Vestal, NY, and a 60% chance of thundershowers on Friday! How do ya figure? (Meanwhile, the NWS also sees Sunday's weather as mostly sunny, with a high in the 50s.)

Okay, yeah, they think it'll be cold at Binghamton on Saturday (good chance of snow that night), and they think Friday will be much warmer, with temps getting into the 70s. But what good are somewhat warmer temps in rain, strong gusting winds, and lightning?

Anyway, good luck to all the teams participating in Binghamton's meet. Be safe.

Strange--a couple posts have been added to this thread recently, yet it doesn't seem to have been bumped to the first page.

Didn't this thread used to be over 21 pages too?

And BRF, thanks for finding the typo! At least she didn't get double points for that. And yes, a lot of the best marks from Columbia and Cornell are NOT from this year, particularly with people coming off from time off or injury. I think that perhaps in thae next few weeks I might do a tweaked listing adjust for more recent marks AND removing indoor conversions for the 1500 since no one is close to the conversions right now, thoughts? I can't guarantee that I will do this due to my busy schedule these next few weeks.

Ok, now all of the pages seem to be back AND new posts are moving the thread to the front.

Back to current items - the Mt SAC Relays heat sheets are up. Athletes I can identify:

Columbia:

Waverly Neer - 5k Invite

Emily Lanois - 10k Invite

Noelle Van Ry - 10k Invite

Cornell:

Nick Wade - 1500 Invite

Kevin Johnson - 10k Invite

Dartmouth:

Abbey D'Agostino - 5k Invite

Will Geogegan - 5k Olympic Development

Phil Royer - 5k A

John Bleday - 5k A

Lindsay Walsh - 1500 h5

Jon Gault - 10k Olympic Development

Dylan O'Sullivan - 10k A

Jennifer Meech - 400 h8, 200 h2

Connor Reilly - 100 h6

Megan Krumpoch - 400H h4

Edward Wagner - 400H h3

Harvard:

Sammy Silva - 5k Olympic Development

James Leakos - 5k Olympic Development

Maksim Korolev - 5k Olympic Development

Morgan Kelly - 5k B

Princeton:

Connor Martin - Steeplechase A

Eddie Owens - Steeplechase Invite

Michael Franklin - 10k Invite

Chris Bendtsen - 5k Olympic Development

Tyler Upland - 5k A

Abby Levene - 5k A

Sam Pons - 5k C

Unattached/Other:

Alexi Pappas - Steeplechase Invite

Kyle Merber (Texas) - 1500 Invite

Trevor Van Ackeren (Texas) - 1500 Invite

Ben True - Mile Invite

Anna Willard - 1500 Invite

C/M Runner wrote:

Ok, now all of the pages seem to be back AND new posts are moving the thread to the front.

Back to current items - the Mt SAC Relays heat sheets are up. Athletes I can identify:

Noelle Van Ry - 10k Invite

The heat sheets truncated her name, but it is Noelle Van Rysselberghe

heat sheets

Too much to do at work--maybe I'll come up with a virtual scoring after this coming weekend. I imagine that'll be about the first time it could be remotely helpful, anyway.

Y'know, I'm *still* impressed that Harvard did not put Salander in the pentathlon indoors. I had really thought that was a no-brainer. Now *that* was confidence.

Query: does she have a hept mark yet? (I saw that she had DNFed a hept earlier this spring.) Is she likely to go hept at Penn, thus not doing it at Heps?

BRF wrote:

Wow, here's a strange one: the Cornell sports website is saying that the Big Red's meet at Binghamton U., that was scheduled for Saturday, is being moved to Friday "due to concerns about the weekend weather." But the National Weather Service sees a 40% chance of showers on Saturday in Vestal, NY, and a 60% chance of thundershowers on Friday! How do ya figure? (Meanwhile, the NWS also sees Sunday's weather as mostly sunny, with a high in the 50s.)

Okay, yeah, they think it'll be cold at Binghamton on Saturday (good chance of snow that night), and they think Friday will be much warmer, with temps getting into the 70s. But what good are somewhat warmer temps in rain, strong gusting winds, and lightning?

Anyway, good luck to all the teams participating in Binghamton's meet. Be safe.

Yeah, seriously. I hope everyone has a good safe meet.

BRF wrote:

Query: does she have a hept mark yet? (I saw that she had DNFed a hept earlier this spring.) Is she likely to go hept at Penn, thus not doing it at Heps?

Salander does not have an outdoor Hept mark for this year (she had DNFed that earlier Hept in Texas because she NH the HJ). I don't know when she'll do a full out Hept again, but I was wondering if she would do one at this weekend's Larry Ellis invite or wait until next week at Penn (although I think that would be too close to Heps if they want her to be at complete rest so she could do another multi-individual performance again for the team).

UPDATE: she is not competing at Larry Ellis according to the heat sheets on Princeton's website. So who knows when she will do a heptathlon.

Larry Ellis Heptathlon

Event 50 Women Heptathlon

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Name Year School

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1 Bradley, Kristen Rutgers

2 Delisle, Pascale Rouge et Or

3 Ganley, Karla Brown

4 Kennedy, Theresa Princeton

5 Krause, Kerry Princeton

6 McKenna, Elizabeth Princeton

7 Nyback, Andrea Manhattan

8 Petruzzelis, Katherine Villanova

Full Larry Ellis heat sheets:

Larry Ellis live results:

Princeton did well in the decathlon.

Mt SAC results so far -

Eddie Owens (Pr) did the steeple invitational in 9:29.99. I think he must have fallen during the race since he finished 20 seconds behind the rest of the group.

Noelle Van Rysselberghe (Col) ran 35:41.41 in the 10k Invitational.

Michael Franklin (Pr) ran 29:27.89 in the 10k invitational for 10th place.

Jon Gault (D) ran 29:43.35 in the 10k Olympic Devel. heat, finishing 7th.

Dylan O'Sullivan (D) DNF the open 10k

Mt SAC live results:

BRF wrote:

Wow, here's a strange one: the Cornell sports website is saying that the Big Red's meet at Binghamton U., that was scheduled for Saturday, is being moved to Friday "due to concerns about the weekend weather." But the National Weather Service sees a 40% chance of showers on Saturday in Vestal, NY, and a 60% chance of thundershowers on Friday! How do ya figure? (Meanwhile, the NWS also sees Sunday's weather as mostly sunny, with a high in the 50s.)

Okay, yeah, they think it'll be cold at Binghamton on Saturday (good chance of snow that night), and they think Friday will be much warmer, with temps getting into the 70s. But what good are somewhat warmer temps in rain, strong gusting winds, and lightning?

Anyway, good luck to all the teams participating in Binghamton's meet. Be safe.

Looks like they got the meet in just fine...although from wind readings, it was windy. Rain (no t-storms) didn't hit the Binghamton area until the evening and it was a warm day around here:

Forecast in Binghamton for Saturday is high of 45 and winds over 20 mph...good call on the Binghamton staff's part for going a day early.

southern tier wrote:

Forecast in Binghamton for Saturday is high of 45 and winds over 20 mph...good call on the Binghamton staff's part for going a day early.

I'm delighted to agree that Binghamton's decision paid off and that I was wrong in my concerns.

Those wind readings are all over the map, making me think that lap races must have faced a tough headwind at some point--some good performances in those events nevertheless.

Fifteen days to Heps...

Okay, we seem to hear about Cornell's meets a lot--what's happening at the other teams' meets this weekend? Obviously Abbey's 5,000m was monstrous, but what other significant performances (team/individual) have there been?

Ivyguy wrote:

Okay, we seem to hear about Cornell's meets a lot--what's happening at the other teams' meets this weekend? Obviously Abbey's 5,000m was monstrous, but what other significant performances (team/individual) have there been?

Sorry, I don't follow the other teams too closely. But:

Does anyone know whether any teams are competing today? If everyone's done for the weekend, I can try putting together a virtual scoring--can tell you in advance that it will differ in "interesting" ways from what fun. and C/M have posted!

OUTDOOR APRIL 21st MEN'S HEPS RANKINGS

Took every athlete's collegiate PB from Indoor 2011 to Present (converted mile times to 1500m times)

Scores not counting relays and includes impossible doubles:

153.5 Princeton

139.0 Cornell

98.0 Harvard

57.0 Columbia

48.0 Brown

41.0 Dartmouth

39.5 Penn

13.0 Yale

Number of athletes ranked 7th or 8th (just outside of scoring)

16 Cornell

6 Harvard

5 Brown

4 Dartmouth

3 Columbia

3 Princeton

2 Penn

1 Yale

EVENT RNK SCHOOL MARK ATHLETE PTS

100 1 Dartmouth 10.46 Reilly, Connor 10.00

100 2 Cornell 10.52 Hortelano-Roig, Bruno 7.00

100 2 Harvard 10.52 McCarthy, Connor 7.00

100 4 Cornell 10.54 Ojukwu, Kinsley 4.00

100 5 Cornell 10.60 Bain, Chris 2.00

100 6 Brown 10.62 Spooney, John 1.00

100 7 Dartmouth 10.63 Buskey, Brett

100 8 Cornell 10.65 Adarquah-Yiadon, Jedidiah

200 1 Brown 21.05 Spooney, John 10.00

200 2 Harvard 21.10 McCarthy, Connor 8.00

200 3 Cornell 21.18 Hortelano-Roig, Bruno 6.00

200 4 Princeton 21.19 Hopkins, Tom 4.00

200 5 Princeton 21.34 Hollimon, Austin 2.00

200 6 Princeton 21.42 Steffen, Sebastian 1.00

200 7 Cornell 21.43 Ojukwu, Kinsley

200 8 Cornell 21.53 McCollin, Justin

400 1 Princeton 46.23 Hopkins, Tom 10.00

400 2 Princeton 46.47 Hollimon, Austin 8.00

400 3 Princeton 46.95 Dinkins, Russell 6.00

400 4 Cornell 47.55 Hortelano-Roig, Bruno 4.00

400 5 Brown 47.71 Spooney, John 2.00

400 6 Columbia 47.88 Boyd, Kevin 1.00

400 7 Cornell 48.37 Ojukwu, Kinsley

400 8 Columbia 48.62 Miner, Sam

800 1 Columbia 1:48.14 McFann, Harry 10.00

800 2 Princeton 1:48.26 Dinkins, Russell 8.00

800 3 Cornell 1:48.43 Weinlandt, Will 6.00

800 4 Columbia 1:48.64 Fish, Brendon 4.00

800 5 Princeton 1:48.66 Callahan, Peter 2.00

800 6 Columbia 1:48.72 Claflin, Connor 1.00

800 7 Cornell 1:48.84 Admirand, Rutger

800 8 Princeton 1:49.26 Paternostro, Bradley

1500 1 Princeton 3:41.28 Callahan, Peter 10.00

1500 2 Cornell 3:42.43 Wade, Nick 8.00

1500 3 Columbia 3:42.82 Everett, Daniel 6.00

1500 4 Columbia 3:43.11 Feigen, Mark 4.00

1500 5 Columbia 3:44.26 Gregorek, John 2.00

1500 6 Harvard 3:44.48 Korolev, Maksim 1.00

1500 7 Brown 3:44.57 Berg, Erik

1500 8 Brown 3:44.92 Cooper, Kevin

10K 1 Columbia 29:03.33 Murphy, Mike 10.00

10K 2 Harvard 29:13.80 Korolev, Maksim 8.00

10K 3 Cornell 29:14.85 Kelly, Brett 6.00

10K 4 Princeton 29:27.00 Arroyo Yamin, Alejandro 4.00

10K 5 Princeton 29:27.89 Frankin, Michael 2.00

10K 6 Princeton 29:32.15 Bendtsen, Chris 1.00

10K 7 Harvard 29:37.17 Leakos, James

10K 8 Princeton 29:39.81 Udland, Tyler

110H 1 Cornell 14.13 Hairston, Max 9.00

110H 1 Harvard 14.13 Harris, Jarvis 9.00

110H 3 Cornell 14.45 Zeller, Zach 6.00

110H 4 Princeton 14.51 Sheldon, Richard 4.00

110H 5 Princeton 14.55 Mohr, Robert 2.00

110H 6 Penn 14.62 Barry, Seck 1.00

110H 7 Cornell 14.76 Athanasopoulos, Nick

110H 8 Princeton 14.83 Caldwell, Gregory

3KSteeple 1 Columbia 8:52.85 Gregorek, John 10.00

3KSteeple 2 Princeton 8:53.55 Owens, Eddie 8.00

3KSteeple 3 Princeton 8:57.61 Martin, Connor 6.00

3KSteeple 4 Dartmouth 8:59.75 Royer, Phil 4.00

3KSteeple 5 Dartmouth 9:00.63 Sterling, Henry 2.00

3KSteeple 6 Columbia 9:01.00 Veilleux, Ben 1.00

3KSteeple 7 Penn 9:07.00 Smith, Brendan

3KSteeple 8 Brown 9:07.71 Bush, Jeff

400H 1 Princeton 50.38 Hollimon, Austin 10.00

400H 2 Penn 52.23 Timmins, Tom 8.00

400H 3 Penn 52.44 Carey, Tim 6.00

400H 4 Columbia 52.73 Love, Cody 4.00

400H 5 Cornell 52.76 Anderson, Andre 2.00

400H 6 Brown 53.04 Keefer, Zach 1.00

400H 7 Cornell 53.13 Hairston, Max

400H 8 Dartmouth 53.17 Wagner, Edward

5K 1 Dartmouth 13:55.92 Geoghegan, Will 10.00

5K 2 Harvard 13:56.93 Leakos, James 8.00

5K 3 Princeton 13:57.46 Bendtsen, Chris 6.00

5K 4 Columbia 13:57.72 Everett, Daniel 4.00

5K 5 Harvard 13:58.51 Korolev, Maksim 2.00

5K 6 Princeton 14:02.08 Arroyo Yamin, Alejandro 1.00

5K 7 Columbia 14:02.46 Feigen, Mark

5K 8 Penn 14:04.75 Awad, Thomas

DEC 1 Brown 7075 Weinstock, Evan 10.00

DEC 2 Princeton 6895 Soerens, Stephen 8.00

DEC 3 Princeton 6771 Pelisek, Brad 6.00

DEC 4 Princeton 6754 Sheldon, Richard 4.00

DEC 5 Brown 6632 Rhodes, Peter 2.00

DEC 6 Cornell 6468 Athanasopoulos, Nick 1.00

DEC 7 Dartmouth 6456 Gilson, Brett

DEC 8 Cornell 6226 Rabbitt, Mike

DT 1 Penn 57.67m Mattis, Sam 10.00

DT 2 Brown 57.04m Clavette, Courtland 8.00

DT 3 Cornell 56.22m Mozia, Stephen 6.00

DT 4 Yale 54.30m Levine, Michael 4.00

DT 5 Harvard 51.73m Brucker, Edward 2.00

DT 6 Harvard 51.34m Liokumovich, Igor 1.00

DT 7 Cornell 51.03m Braun, Jesse

DT 8 Harvard 50.26m Brode, Dustin

HJ 1 Penn 2.28m Reynolds, Maalik 10.00

HJ 2 Cornell 2.27m Blair, Montez 8.00

HJ 3 Cornell 2.16m Butler, Tommy 5.00

HJ 3 Cornell 2.16m Afadapa, Stephen 5.00

HJ 5 Penn 2.08m Pitt, Thomas 1.50

HJ 5 Princeton 2.08m Jarrett, Omar 1.50

HJ 7 Cornell 2.04m Stancil, Hercules

HJ 7 Dartmouth 2.04m Birck, Jeremy

HJ 7 Harvard 2.04m Sparks, Jonathan

HJ 7 Harvard 2.04m Garin, Fedor

HT 1 Harvard 60.02m Glauser, Ben 10.00

HT 2 Dartmouth 59.35m Servino, Thomas 8.00

HT 3 Yale 58.71m Levine, Michael 6.00

HT 4 Cornell 58.36m Fiedler, Bob 4.00

HT 5 Brown 57.32m Lipinsky, Alexander 2.00

HT 6 Harvard 56.12m Brode, Dustin 1.00

HT 7 Columbia 55.85m Dickerson, Duncan

HT 8 Cornell 55.21m Mozia, Stephen

JT 1 Brown 67.66m Keeling, Nick 10.00

JT 2 Harvard 67.00m Sullivan, Dean 8.00

JT 3 Cornell 66.89m Robbins, Rob 6.00

JT 4 Dartmouth 64.29m Gilson, Brett 4.00

JT 5 Dartmouth 63.37m Budzinski, Jim 2.00

JT 6 Penn 62.75m Ingram, Karl 1.00

JT 7 Brown 59.27m Weinstock, Evan

JT 8 Brown 58.64m Bieszard, Michael

LJ 1 Princeton 7.55m McLean, Damon 10.00

LJ 2 Cornell 7.50m Bell, Steven 8.00

LJ 3 Princeton 7.43m Hopkins, Tom 6.00

LJ 4 Cornell 7.40m Stancil, Hercules 3.00

LJ 4 Yale 7.40m Lindberg, Dana 3.00

LJ 6 Princeton 7.33m Soerens, Stephen 1.00

LJ 7 Cornell 7.29m Blair, Montez

LJ 8 Cornell 7.23m Chew, Han Wei

PV 1 Harvard 5.50m Weiler, Nico 10.00

PV 2 Cornell 5.17m Roach, Peter 8.00

PV 3 Princeton 5.06m Bragg, Adam 6.00

PV 4 Harvard 5.01m Garin, Fedor 4.00

PV 5 Cornell 4.95m Rayburn, Keith 2.00

PV 6 Cornell 4.90m Pawlak, Steven 1.00

PV 7 Cornell 4.85m Kim, David

PV 8 Yale 4.80m Chandler, Paul

SP 1 Cornell 19.89m Mozia, Stephen 10.00

SP 2 Harvard 18.18m Brode, Dustin 8.00

SP 3 Harvard 18.07m Glauser, Ben 6.00

SP 4 Harvard 17.56m Liokumovich, Igor 4.00

SP 5 Penn 17.25m Brenza, Jacob 2.00

SP 6 Dartmouth 16.93m Filiano, Dom 1.00

SP 7 Harvard 16.83m Brucker, Edward

SP 8 Cornell 16.34m Tenpas, Ben

TJ 1 Princeton 16.03m McLean, Damon 10.00

TJ 2 Cornell 15.51m Scott, Dan 8.00

TJ 3 Princeton 15.50m Owusu-Nyanteky, Nana 6.00

TJ 4 Cornell 15.16m Bell, Steven 4.00

TJ 5 Brown 15.05m Thompson, Kenneth 2.00

TJ 6 Harvard 15.03m Rodriguez, Malcolm 1.00

TJ 7 Cornell 15.00m Ojukwu, Kinsley

TJ 8 Harvard 14.80m Harris, Jarvis

Thanks, as always, fun.--I finally got a virtual scoring done (based only on the current season's tfrrs list, as of last night), and I think the two together do a decent job of showing where the Ivy teams are now, and where they can be.

I'm not going to recite all the usual caveats, beyond saying these are not predictions. Here's what I got, and *please* correct me if I got any math wrong (I'm not listing fractions, as usual, so totals may differ by one from the sum of their parts.

Scoring everything: Cornell 194, Harvard 101, Columbia 86, Princeton 81, Dartmouth 68, Penn 67, Brown 45, Yale 17.

This is so grotesquely at variance with what I suspect the real situation will be, I'm almost at a loss for my usual hundreds of words. Yes, Bruno H-R probably won't contest all three sprints in which he's currently "scoring" (nor will John Spooney), and Cornell's jav man hasn't shown in any results since their first meet; but, as far as the tfrrs list's virtual scoring is concerned, do those things matter?

I won't even give my usual breakdown of individual/relay, track/field/dec scoring. The relays are screwy, as usual, especially the lightly-contested 4x8 (though Penn's 7:43 there is legit). It's funny, in following their results this season I had thought that Cornell had some weakness, particularly in events like IH and TJ that are often their strong points; but they're projecting 95 points in the field alone, and that makes such considerations irrelevant.

Well, not irrelevant in real life, just on the performances list. It seems like we somehow lost a weekend this year; that, plus the unpredictable weather, means we just can't get a line on how things are going. I think Penn Relays will be a big, and important, coming-out party for several teams, Princeton foremost among them. I hope the weather is decent there, so we can get a bit more of an idea of how teams look.

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On the women's side, here's what I got from scoring all events: Columbia 152, Harvard 119, Cornell 113, Princeton 92, Brown 66, Dartmouth and Penn 61, Yale 25.

Again, one team's dominance here has kept me from presenting the various subscores. Yes, Columbia's the only team with a 4x8 mark; but, again, that doesn't make much difference. With their distance runners (they've got more than Neer) healthy and a hale Hale, the Lions project to score in almost every track event and to produce a solid crop of field points.

If Abbey goes 1500/3000 again, that'll cut points from Columbia in those events--and from everyone else except Cornell, which amazingly now projects zero in the 800/1500/3000. Even so, it's hard to come up with a scenario wherein my beloved Big Red pull out a win--if Columbia should somehow falter, Harvard (with likely increased scoring from Salander) is in a position to pick up the pieces.

As with the men, I think Penn will give us a much better read on how the teams look this season (watch out for Princeton), but a healthy Columbia is assuredly the team to beat.

Ok I did the women's scoring by fun.'s method. I applied 2 tweeks though:

1) I removed Hale's 200m (23.33) and 400m (52.40) bests from the scoring. The 200m removal did not matter as Hale ran the fastest conference time of the year this past weekend (23.80), but it did make an impact on the 400m as she is clearly 2 seconds slower and I am not expecting her to get close to that time with 2 weeks to go.

2) I removed D'Agostino from the 1500. If she was going to be doing that event at Heps, she would have raced one by now (unless there is a precedent of someone going into the 1500m with no-time). I kept her in the 3k since it isn't uncommon for people to do that with no time going into it.

No relays, no other guessing on what people will or will not be doing. I did my best to clean up the listings to remove any duplicates.

Scores:

Cornell - 121

Columbia - 116

Harvard - 93

Princeton - 92

Brown - 90

Dartmouth - 49

Penn - 23

Yale - 5

100 Bong , Heather 2015 Penn 11.83 10

100 Iheukwumere, Marvellous 2014 Columbia 11.87 8

100 Barbian, Danielle 2015 Harvard 11.98 6

100 Woodford, Katie 2015 Cornell 11.99 4

100 Collinsworth, Ashley 2015 Harvard 12.07 2

100 Piper , Gabrielle 2014 Penn 12.08 1

100 Onyeador , Nonyerem 2013 Penn 12.12 0

100 Kikut, Sara 2016 Dartmouth 12.16 0

200 Hale, Sharay 2013 Columbia 23.8 10

200 Parker, Jaycee 2016 Columbia 24.04 8

200 Iheukwumere, Marvellous 2014 Columbia 24.11 6

200 Woodford, Katie 2015 Cornell 24.15 4

200 Airewele, Ebolutalese 2014 Cornell 24.29 2

200 Franklin, Autumne 2016 Harvard 24.36 1

200 Ali, Lydia 2015 Penn 24.63 0

200 Scott, Gabrielle 2015 Harvard 24.68 0

400 Waterbury, Lauren 2015 Brown 53.96 10

400 Barowski, Cecilia 2015 Princeton 54.30 8

400 Lubman, Colby 2014 Brown 54.46 6

400 Scott, Gabrielle 2015 Harvard 54.61 4

400 Kolliesuah, Zena 2015 Cornell 55.15 2

400 Airewele, Ebolutalese 2014 Cornell 55.24 1

400 Parker, Jaycee 2016 Columbia 55.42 0

400 Krumpoch, Megan 2014 Dartmouth 55.43 0

800 Feldman, Greta 2013 Princeton 02:03.65 10

800 Veidis, Erika 2015 Harvard 02:05.70 8

800 Lloyd, Lauren 2014 Cornell 02:07.18 6

800 Bills, Trina 2014 Columbia 02:07.21 4

800 Rathbun, Madeline 2015 Columbia 02:07.79 2

800 Barowski, Cecilia 2015 Princeton 02:08.01 1

800 O'Neil, Kacie 2014 Princeton 02:08.32 0

800 Gamble, Annelies 2013 Yale 02:08.91 0

1500 Feldman, Greta 2013 Princeton 04:12.73 10

1500 Shearer, Emily 2014 Cornell 04:20.44 8

1500 Mikaelian, Alexis 2013 Princeton 04:20.79 6

1500 Gillingham, Erin 2013 Columbia 04:20.87 4

1500 Neer, Waverly 2015 Columbia 04:21.28 2

1500 Kayali, Nihal 2013 Yale 04:21.98 1

1500 Walsh, Lindsay 2014 Dartmouth 04:22.66 0

1500 O'Connor, Alyssa 2013 Cornell 04:23.82 0

3000 D'Agostino, Abbey 2014 Dartmouth 08:55.41 10

3000 Neer, Waverly 2015 Columbia 09:08.72 8

3000 Sorna, Rachel 2014 Cornell 09:12.97 6

3000 Shearer, Emily 2014 Cornell 09:17.77 4

3000 Kellner, Katie 2013 Cornell 09:22.39 2

3000 de La Bruyere, Emily 2015 Princeton 09:26.62 1

3000 Levene, Abby 2013 Princeton 09:28.84 0

3000 Chapman, Melissa 2014 Yale 09:29.05 0

5000 D'Agostino, Abbey 2014 Dartmouth 15:11.35 10

5000 Sorna, Rachel 2014 Cornell 15:53.76 8

5000 Neer, Waverly 2015 Columbia 16:01.36 6

5000 Kellner, Katie 2013 Cornell 16:01.51 4

5000 Caldwell, Heidi 2014 Brown 16:06.00 2

5000 Kovach, Leslie 2013 Penn 16:11.59 1

5000 Chapman, Melissa 2014 Yale 16:22.89 0

5000 Levene, Abby 2013 Princeton 16:25.98 0

10k Kellner, Katie 2013 Cornell 32:58.73 10

10k Mickle, Olivia 2013 Brown 33:52.49 8

10k Lanois, Emily 2013 Columbia 33:53.06 6

10k McMahon, Devin 2014 Cornell 34:04.20 4

10k McDonough, Caroline 2013 Columbia 34:07.90 2

10k Levene, Abby 2015 Princeton 34:21.08 1

10k Rosettie, Kate 2013 Cornell 34:25.57 0

10k Kovach, Leslie 2013 Penn 34:51.93 0

HH Franklin, Autumne 2016 Harvard 13.78 10

HH Piper , Gabrielle 2014 Penn 13.98 8

HH Abbate, Olivia 2014 Harvard 14.04 6

HH Chijioke, Iris 2016 Columbia 14.14 4

HH DeLoach, Jordan 2015 Brown 14.15 2

HH Amick-Alexis, Mina 2015 Cornell 14.34 1

HH Dunchack, Janae 2014 Dartmouth 14.51 0

HH Scott, Amber 2013 Penn 14.54 0

IH Franklin, Autumne 2016 Harvard 00:58.8 10

IH Stanton, Alexandra 2015 Brown 00:59.84 8

IH Krumpoch, Megan 2014 Dartmouth 01:00.0 6

IH Hand, Joie 2013 Princeton 01:00.28 4

IH Woolley, Ryan 2014 Cornell 01:00.50 2

IH Rodriguez, Susan 2013 Columbia 01:00.6 1

IH Alexander, Julie 2013 Columbia 01:02.00 0

IH Poggi, Jenna 2013 Yale 01:02.13 0

SC Sorna, Rachel 2013 Cornell 09:50.39 10

SC Hartung, Genna 2013 Cornell 10:10.55 8

SC Newbery, Melissa 2015 Princeton 10:18.66 6

SC Anderson, Mallory 2013 Columbia 10:22.19 4

SC DeVoe, Claire 2016 Cornell 10:27.18 2

SC Garry, Kira 2015 Yale 10:28.63 1

SC Delozier, Sarah 2015 Dartmouth 10:36.24 0

SC Carrick, Chelsea 2014 Columbia 10:37.2 0

LJ Ofoche, Uju 2013 Columbia 6.24m 10

LJ Vegvari, Dora 2013 Columbia 6.13m 8

LJ Parnell, Anjelique 2014 Cornell 6.10m 6

LJ Holmes, Hillary 2016 Cornell 5.92m 4

LJ Eke, Nadia 2015 Columbia 5.88m 2

LJ Delong, Rebecca 2013 Cornell 5.86m 1

LJ Salander, Martina 2016 Harvard 5.85m 0

LJ Corley, Dominique 2014 Cornell 5.83m 0

TJ Eke, Nadia 2015 Columbia 13.32m 10

TJ Okeke, Queen 2013 Columbia 12.87m 8

TJ Oliver, Imani 2014 Princeton 12.74m 6

TJ Richmond, Tara 2014 Columbia 12.37m 4

TJ Jordan, Alisha 2015 Yale 12.30m 2

TJ Sonaike, Addy 2016 Columbia 12.25m 1

TJ Gribbin, Mollie 2016 Dartmouth 12.15m 0

TJ Johnson, Savannah 2013 Cornell 12.12m 0

PV Worthen, Tory 2013 Princeton 4.12m 10

PV Dishong, Claire 2013 Cornell 3.97m 8

PV Leroy, Sydnie 2013 Harvard 3.91m 6

PV Anderson, Samantha 2014 Princeton 3.90m 4

PV Hart , Jillian 2013 Penn 3.85m 1

PV Pace, Allie 2014 Harvard 3.85m 1

PV Tauscher, Lauren 2013 Princeton 3.85m 1

PV Brown , Davielle 2013 Penn 3.82m 0

HJ Hirst, Mary 2013 Harvard 1.80m 10

HJ Richmond, Tara 2014 Columbia 1.79m 7

HJ Whitehorn, Kaitlin 2016 Dartmouth 1.79m 7

HJ Hanly, Ailish 2013 Cornell 1.76m 4

HJ Morgan, Taylor 2016 Princeton 1.75m 2

HJ Dunchack, Janae 2014 Dartmouth 1.73m 0.333

HJ Giebelhaus, Ann 2015 Harvard 1.73m 0.333

HJ Kennedy, Theresa 2014 Princeton 1.73m 0.333

SP Imbesi, Victoria 2013 Cornell 15.37m 10

SP Darpolar, Josephine 2016 Brown 14.91m 8

SP Watt, Shannon 2013 Harvard 14.58m 6

SP Berg, Emmaline 2013 Dartmouth 14.47m 4

SP Buhr, Victoria 2014 Brown 14.34m 2

SP Johnson, Alysha 2014 Harvard 14.32m 1

SP Salander, Martina 2016 Harvard 14.23m 0

SP Picciallo, Theresa 2016 Penn 14.11m 0

DT Craker, Lacey 2013 Brown 51.34m 10

DT Darpolor, Kebbeh 2016 Brown 50.26m 8

DT Buhr, Victoria 2014 Brown 49.66m 6

DT Watt, Shannon 2013 Harvard 48.47m 4

DT Imbesi, Victoria 2013 Cornell 47.06m 2

DT Berg, Emmaline 2013 Dartmouth 45.64m 1

DT Rowe, Brielle 2016 Princeton 44.26m 0

DT Cioffi, Chelsea 2014 Princeton 44.19m 0

HT Ratcliffe, Julia 2016 Princeton 68.80m 10

HT Craker, Lacey 2013 Brown 59.03m 8

HT Ekechukwu, Adabelle 2014 Harvard 57.36m 6

HT Liebowitz, Cathy 2015 Dartmouth 55.73m 4

HT Okwara, Nnenna 2013 Columbia 54.46m 2

HT Vermillion, Heather 2015 Brown 52.04m 1

HT Graf, Serena 2016 Penn 51.77m 0

HT Koronios, Joanna 2015 Columbia 51.34m 0

JT Al-Hassan, Niina 2014 Brown 47.20m 10

JT Mayer, Hannah 2014 Harvard 46.88m 8

JT Imbesi, Victoria 2013 Cornell 46.80m 6

JT Jones, Kaci 2016 Penn 46.07m 4

JT Wheeler , Morgan 2013 Penn 45.72m 2

JT Hay, Kelsey 2016 Penn 44.97m 1

JT Dombrowski, Brittany 2013 Cornell 43.12m 0

JT Graf, Serena 2016 Penn 42.87m 0

Hept Dunchack, Janae 2014 Dartmouth 4924 10

Hept Hirst, Mary 2013 Harvard 4910 8

Hept Hansen, Madison 2016 Harvard 4689 6

Hept McKenna, Elizabeth 2014 Princeton 4468 4

Hept Nunez, Hannah 2015 Harvard 4457 2

Hept Wheeler , Morgan 2013 Penn 4456 1

Hept Anderson, Samantha 2014 Princeton 4332 0

Hept Privott-Yeiser, Amira 2015 Penn 4279 0

"2) I removed D'Agostino from the 1500. If she was going to be doing that event at Heps, she would have raced one by now (unless there is a precedent of someone going into the 1500m with no-time). I kept her in the 3k since it isn't uncommon for people to do that with no time going into it.

No relays, no other guessing on what people will or will not be doing. I did my best to clean up the listings to remove any duplicates."

There is precedent: Abbey herself. She did not contest the event last year outdoors until the heps, which she won in a meet record time I believe. In fact, many people have done events at heps without racing them during the season. She has only one run race outdoors this season, the 5k last week. I think it would be an error to make assumptions about what she will do at heps based on her schedule to date.

She did the 5K only as a frosh, then the 1500/3k/4x8 triple as a soph. She could do anything and in fact seems to have a different schedule every year. Guessing is fruitless and undermines the accuracy of your exercise.

Take out Richmond of Columbia as she hasn't competed all year and remove Sorna from either the steeple or 5000m and it becomes a crapshoot.

If you want it without any removals, then this is the team scoring:

Columbia - 123

Cornell - 117

Harvard - 91

Brown & Princeton - 86

Dartmouth - 59

Penn - 23

Yale - 4

This does include Abbey's 4:10.00 (conversion of her indoor Millrose Mile) and Hale's 52.40 (from 2011 outdoors)

None of these exercises are accurate predictions on what will happen at Heps. This version shows more potential while BRF's version shows more current info, particularly when the potential scoring method takes into account a lot of performances that are from previous seasons.

Event/2013/previous - out of scoring positions (1-6)

100/4/2

200/1/5

400/1/5

800/2/4

1500/1/5

3000/0/6

5000/2/4

10k/3/3

HH/2/4

IH/4/2

SC/4/2

LJ/0/6

TJ/2/4

PV/1/7* ties for 6th

HJ/0/8* ties for 6th

SP/0/6

DT/4/2

HT/4/2

JT/3/3

Totals - 38 from outdoors 2013, 80 from previous seasons, out of possible 114 scoring slots