reguardless of who la crosse runs its going to be a NCC dominate race.. from what i have heard about the race today no one on ncc was at all pressing and just ran a solid easy 5 miles for the W.. its going to be an awesome race next week and cant wait to watch it
can we get a list of auto qualifying teams going? that will make it easier to figure out at-large teams and individuals.
first six i know of (for the men) are allegheny, carnegie mellon, north central, uw-lax, st. thomas, and nebraska wesleyan.
From the west, CMS and Willamette.
Cross country season wrote:
Never to early to start this..What's going to happen?
Rick Flynn just skipped the whole race in the south and won easily in 26:10ish. He also wore a snorkel. No word yet if this strategy will be employed at nationals.
looks like emory and lynchburg out of the south.
I figured bcc would kill uwlax, those guys (gays) are a bunch of pansies
Cortland, Geneseo from the Atlantic
almost assuredly NYU
probably RIT and then SLU
Okay here's what I got so far:
Atlantic
Cortland
Geneseo
(NYU)
(RIT)
(St Lawrence)
Central
St Thomas
Nebraska Wesleyan
(St Olaf)
(Hamline)
Great Lakes
Calvin
Heidelberg
(Manchester)
Mideast
Allegheny
Carnegie Mellon
(Haverford)
(Dickinson)
Midwest
North Central
UW Lacrosse
(Wash U)
(UW Platteville)
(UW Eau Claire)
New England
Williams
Amherst
(Keene State)
(Brandeis)
(Bowdoin)
South
Emory
Lynchburg
West
CMS
Willamette
With two spots open by my count.
Thoughts?
What the heck happened to Stevens Point? I thought they were going to challenge UW-LAX?!? Weird. Wilhelmy 31st, too? Wow.
Women's race went to Mitchell pretty convincingly. Do you think they'll take 5 teams for both men & women in the Midwest Region?
PRedictor, I think thats pretty close I have it breaking down like this for the 32...
Atlantic they get all 5 - Cortland, Suny G, NYU, RIT, St. Lawrence
New England gets 5 - Williams, Amherst, Keene State, Brandeis, Bowdoin
Mideast 5 here as well - Allegheny, CMU, Haveford, Dickinson, Etown
Great Lakes only 2 here - Calvin, Heidekberg
Midwest 5 again - NCC, Lacross, Wash U, Platteville, Eau Claire
Central 5 here - St. Thomas, Nebraska Wesleyan, St. Olaf, Hamline, Grinnell
South only 2 - Emory, Lynchburg
West they get 3 - CMS, Willamette, Whitworth
Thoughts, this year it seems to be the haves and the have nots when it comes to the regions getting at lareg bids I have 5 of the 8 regions getting max slots while the south and great lakes get no at large and the west only gets 1. Last one in for me was Grinnell, first one out was Manchester.
here's how i see it:
at large teams (in):
nyu (beat emory and cmu at UAA)
wash U. (beat tons of ranked teams at regions, beat brandeis at UAA)
st. olaf (beat st. thomas at MIAC)
hamline (beat st. thomas at MIAC)
haverford (beat dickinson at regions)
dickinson (beat haverford at centennial)
u-w platteville (beat eau-claire at regions, second at wiac, beat nebraska wesleyan at jim drews)
eau-claire (beat hamline and st. olaf at jim drews)
keene state (beat brandeis at regions)
colorado college (beat whitworth at regions, beat trinity (TX) at SCACs)
RIT (beat st. lawrence at regions, won empire 8, beat brandeis at albany)
st. lawrence (beat RIT at saratoga, small point gap at regions)
brandeis (sixth at UAAs but small point gap to keene)
bowdoin (fifth at nescacs but small point gap to keene)
whitworth (tiny gap to CC, beat pomona-pitzer at regions)
at large teams (bubble):
manchester (beat mt. union at regions with big point gap but equally large gap to heidelberg)
elizabethtown (beat mt. union at oberlin, but huge gap to dickinson)
at large teams (out):
pomona-pitzer (small point gap to cms at SCIACs but big gap to whitworth at regions)
mt. union (big point gap)
case western (last in UAAs)
grinnell (medium point gap, lost to several non-qualifiers at brooks, lost to olivet nazarene at augustana)
trinity (TX) (lost to colorado college at SCACs)
mary washington (lost to trinity)
va wesleyan (lost to trinity)
let the games begin wrote:
West they get 3 - CMS, Willamette, Whitworth
you can't put whitworth in over colorado college as CC beat them at regions. i think the west gets four and grinnell is out. grinnell didn't beat a decent team in any of the last three meets, which is what the selection committee looks at.
800 is fun wrote:
reguardless of who la crosse runs its going to be a NCC dominate race.. from what i have heard about the race today no one on ncc was at all pressing and just ran a solid easy 5 miles for the W.. its going to be an awesome race next week and cant wait to watch it
after their performance today does anyone thing Cortland or Geneseo has a shot to run with NCC?
113 wrote:
you can't put whitworth in over colorado college as CC beat them at regions. i think the west gets four and grinnell is out. grinnell didn't beat a decent team in any of the last three meets, which is what the selection committee looks at.[/quote]
Yeah that was a mistake on my part for sure, I was going over things real quick.
A:5
MW:5
NE:5
C:5
W:4
ME:4
S:2
GL:2
My 2cents.
Someone said that Manchester is on the bubble. Do you really think that they have a shot? It's a big gap. Not challenging you, just wondering.
Also newsworthy: Keene State DIDN'T blow it at regionals this year!!
Big Will wrote:
My 2cents.
Someone said that Manchester is on the bubble. Do you really think that they have a shot? It's a big gap. Not challenging you, just wondering.
it was really hard to come up with teams for the last 1-2 spots. none of those teams beat anybody. i don't think any of those that are left out will have room to complain.
manchester and elizabethtown both finished pretty far back from the team in front of them. they both beat mt. union at the end of the year. e-town is obviously in a stronger region, but i'm not sure how much that matters to the selection process. you could probably toss grinnell in there for that last spot, but they really didn't beat anyone of note. we'll see.
Not a chance. Definitely not impressed enough by the Atlantic teams' performances to give them a real shot at winning. Race for second will be exciting though!
Previously unranked WashU ran well upsetting the 28th, 25th, 20th, 11th, 8th and 5th nationally ranked teams in the Midwest Region. Quite a surprise
Etown from the Mid East beat St. Thomas at Oberlin, so Mid East gets 5 teams!
113 wrote:
here's how i see it:
at large teams (in):
haverford (beat dickinson at regions)
dickinson (beat haverford at centennial)
RIT (beat st. lawrence at regions, won empire 8, beat brandeis at albany)
st. lawrence (beat RIT at saratoga, small point gap at regions)
Love the circular logic. If that line of reasoning (comparing teams in the same region to each other based on results other than regionals) really mattered, why wouldn't teams just collude? "Hey, we beat you this week, but we'll let you win next week and we'll both be guaranteed to go!"
113 wrote:at large teams (out):
grinnell (medium point gap, lost to several non-qualifiers at brooks, lost to olivet nazarene at augustana)
trinity (TX) (lost to colorado college at SCACs)
mary washington (lost to trinity)
va wesleyan (lost to trinity)
Who teams lost to isn't part of the criteria. Only who they actually beat.