........PSAC.......

yo hoovis...you ever run with spence?

Dude, a couple of things. First, Spence (even though he's now an old guy) is still fast as crap. So, "running with Spence" has always been an oxymoron for me. Second, I live in Seattle, WA and Spence lives in Shippensburg, PA. So, the distance makes it tough. If I were in Central PA, I'm not sure I would run with him -- but, I'd probably stay in close contact with the guy around as I hold him in very high regard. I ran at Ship my first two years of college. Back then, Spence would come out and run with us on occassion on South Mountain (often time with kashi and sumi, his two golden labs). He would sometimes show up for workouts to run with Randy Lowe (D2 National 10K champ). It was a fun time to be around Spence/Ship...he was on top of his game fresh off his 3rd at the WC marathon. We all got to have our picture taken running with him for RW. Sorry for long answer, but no -- don't run with Spence. Do always make sure to chat with him when I'm back for a PSAC meet (usually a couple times a year). Hoovis

xcaddict wrote:

yo hoovis...you ever run with spence?

Grandma's Marathon -- Mark Stallings (Millersville Alum) ran 1:07 for a top 10 finish in the 1/2 marathon. Very solid.

Thought AJ Kelly (IUP Alum) was running the marathon, but didn't finish in the top 15 (sub 2:25). Not sure if he ran or not.

Hoovis

Hey hoovis why don't you give us some early rankings for xc always like to here what you have to say.

What is that course like for the 1/2 marathon that Stallings ran? I would expect him to run faster than 67 on any course except for an extremely hard one. Or was he taking it easy?

it appears that the heat slowed many down this weekend a 1:07 for stallings is not bad considering the winning was only 1:05

whats carney up to where is he running next

I hear it was 86 degrees out for the Grandma's race..that would explain a lot..

I'm not going to make predictions, but I will say the top 2 teams will be SRU and LHU...on paper, the Rock looks like the dominant team, but Russell always has LHU atop their game and I could see someone stepping up huge next year, should be fun to see..

What about boro they got that fast freshman not to mention Neimera, Field, Arthor and a couple of there other guys from last year returning. I think they can definitly be in the mix to.

My Predictions

Psacs

1. SRU

2. LHU

3. Edinboro

4. Man-hole

5. Ship

6. Cal

Regions

Mixed up a little bit

1.SRU

2.Edinboro

3.Cal

4.LHU

5.Man

6.Ship

I see this as being a down year for LHU and Ship as they regroup and depend on alot of underclassman. Cal with Clark leading the bunch and a new coach should help out alot. Mansfield redshirted alot and should be strong but just not deep enough. SRU can afford a couple of injuries and still be on top. Edinboro just shows up so they should never be left out.

who does mansfield have besides cummings?

\"The PSAC today extended an invitation to Gannon University and Mercyhurst College to join its association as full-time members\"

http://www.psacsports.org/news/200607/6_18.html

also, CW Post as a FH and football school. I hope the schools except. it's always good to be adding schools to a conference.....anyone have any idea about the track/xc at these schools?

This is a stupid idea. Why ruin a great conference by letting in some private schools. The PSAC is exactly what it should have stayed as-PA STATE SCHOOLS in an athletic conference. Those who made this decision have no idea of the history or understanding of sports. With CW post in, is the conference name going to change to "stupid idea conference in PA and NY?

Hmmmm...too bad they're not adding CW Post for running. A little no name coach (Vin Lannana) came from there in the mid 70's and back in the early 90's they had a couple of guys (e.g. Marty Ryan) that weren't too shabby.

They also have an awesome course...

Hoovis

I think its a great Idea, the FH teams need some more competition, it keeps a few other sports able to have a conf game. also evens out the FBall teams, and if you throw in a cup more teams in xc and track it will add some competition. Competition is what track and xc thrives off of so the more the better.

To change gears a bit...here we are in early/mid June already talking about next year's cross season. When I recall this thread, I would guess that at least 2/3 of the posts are geared toward cross country, while the other 1/3 is geared toward track. There always seems to be more chatter and board participation in cross than track.

I'm curious, why do you think that is?

a.) Is the PSAC more of a cross country conference than a track one?

b.) Is it just more reflective of the interests of the letsrun message board (posters/visitors prefer cross vs. track)?

c.) Is it the whole team aspect -- For example, the distance runners from the Boro competing with the distance runners from Haven? There are no sprinters or hurdlers or throwers to get in the way -- it all gets settled in one race with everybody participating?

d.) Is it that cross country (in general) is just more exciting because one race (Regionals) determines who is/who isn't going to Nats.

e.) Other reasons?

Just curious what y'all think.

Hoovis

Uhm, I hope that people aren't counting out boro again, do we remember what happened last year (no one thoguht boro would be worth a crap and then they walk in and own again like they always do)

And to answer Hoovis

I think that more cross oriented threads occur because cross is more of a team sport and so its fun to talk up your team and say how you're gonna crush the others, but in track since most of us are concentrated on our individual performances at conference we don't talk as much because mots of us don't wnat to toot our own horn on here. Just a thought

and on a side note, The JesVic 5K in Watsontown was this weekend organized by one of the female BU runners. It was the first tiem they ran this race and there was a pretty good showing, Bloom had about 6-7 people running Jeff McCabe was there from Boro and I represented the "I". A good time had by all.

So what individuals are running the most miles right now in the PSAC?...probably behind Weiss of course