True, but at the same time there wasn't a single solid team at that meet on the boys side.
Boise girls however look REALLY good, winning over a full(?) Jesuit team and others.
why doesn't cda go to any big teams? do they not want to win against auto qualifiers? are they so sure they will get top 2 at nxr west
If you took half a second to look, you would see Jesuit on the attendees at Hole in the Wall. They are at least putting big enough meets on their schedule to race lots of schools from different areas, and they’ve won everything they’ve been at. While some schools were at Gary Ward, others were dominating a meet that had an invitational section.
It also matters who the guys are that you beat. CDA had 3 guys that beat a runner by 26, 24 and 13 seconds. That guy ran equal to the guy that was 17th at Firman the week before, and that same guy ran basically the same mark as the Boise guys in a different section at the same meet (interesting they just broke everything out by school size… Boise actually would have dominated less in a merge).
Portland speed ratings are out… Mountain View boys get 173, 166, 163, 161, 152 speed ratings. I think that’s 4 guys at 160 or above, possibly 5.
Eagle gets 180, 164, 160, 155 while their 5th is way back. I believe they now also have 4 guys with 160+ speed ratings on the year. That would be Rocky, Boise, CDA, Mountain View, Centennial and Eagle that have all now done that.
Athay gets a 169, Antonnen gets a 173.
Mountain View girls get a 122, 113, 97, 96, 96.
Eagle girls get 115, 108, 102. Their 4 and 5 struggled. Looks like their #4 today has a 104 rating on the season though. Rocky and Boise are the only other schools with 4+ runners over 100 on the season. Twin Falls has it in 4A. Mountain View looks like they are going to get 5.
Lily Simmons puts up a 115 and Jaycee Jensen from Idaho Falls gets a 110.
Timberline girls have a great 1-2, but their 3-5 have season bests of 91, 88, and 81. It seems like Boise is Boise, Rocky has an awesome pack, Mountain View is fast improving, and Eagle has the best 1-4 of the remaining teams. Everyone else has enough weakness across various spots that I think those are the top four 5A schools if everyone races their best at state.
Coeur d'Alene's nationally ranked boys team ran away with the team title — along with the top three spots on the podium.
Senior Lachlan May won in 15:00.4, 2 seconds ahead of teammate Max Cervi-Skinner. Jacob King was third in 15:13.0.
The Vikings had six of the top 12 runners and finished with 24 points. "Really hard. Really hot. Really fast," May said.
"That's when we do good, we build off our team. I could not have done this without (Cervi-Skinner). He led the first part of the race, really pushed it. I just took over at the end."
Great day for the Battle of the 509 cross country race at the Polo Fields in Spokane WA. Lachlan May wins in 15:00.04. Coeur d Alene High School takes 1,2,...
Jacob King's strava data shows 3.14, but the time is off. When you go to the chart on a browser, his pace drops off to 11:00/mile pace at exactly 3.0 miles.
The course was super fast and the dirt was compact. I believe it was a true 5k but it was just great conditions to run a PR. Course is faster than the Inland Empire course in Lewiston.
I think there is a very large gap between 7 and 8 in District III on both genders.
Scoring out with seasonal best speed ratings between Rocky, Boise, CDA, Mountain View, Timberline, Highland, Centennial, Capital, and Eagle, I get the following scores:
I didn't score out Thunder Ridge or Lake City boys. I don't know that it changes much other than to make the gap between the top 4 schools and the remainder bigger. Centennial has the 44th and 48th speed ratings out of these schools for scorers, Eagle has the 41st and 49th, Highland has the 37th, 42nd, and 47th. Mountain View's got 32nd and 43rd. Where Lake City schools will only have a couple of guys combined in the top 30 but a handful in the 30's and 40's, it would seem like the top 4 are pretty clear at this point.
I'll score out Boise, Rocky, Mountain View, Eagle, Timberline, Owyhee, Capital, Post Falls, CDA, Highland and Thunder Ridge girls today or tomorrow.
I think there is a very large gap between 7 and 8 in District III on both genders.
Scoring out with seasonal best speed ratings between Rocky, Boise, CDA, Mountain View, Timberline, Highland, Centennial, Capital, and Eagle, I get the following scores:
I didn't score out Thunder Ridge or Lake City boys. I don't know that it changes much other than to make the gap between the top 4 schools and the remainder bigger. Centennial has the 44th and 48th speed ratings out of these schools for scorers, Eagle has the 41st and 49th, Highland has the 37th, 42nd, and 47th. Mountain View's got 32nd and 43rd. Where Lake City schools will only have a couple of guys combined in the top 30 but a handful in the 30's and 40's, it would seem like the top 4 are pretty clear at this point.
I'll score out Boise, Rocky, Mountain View, Eagle, Timberline, Owyhee, Capital, Post Falls, CDA, Highland and Thunder Ridge girls today or tomorrow.
Looking just at last week, Twin Falls girls beat Preston girls in 4A. You might include them and then run one score for 5A and one including those two schools.
Boys 4A seems to be shaping up as a three way battle with BK, Burley, and Idaho Falls currently in that order. None of them would be a contender in 5A this year.
I think there is a very large gap between 7 and 8 in District III on both genders.
Scoring out with seasonal best speed ratings between Rocky, Boise, CDA, Mountain View, Timberline, Highland, Centennial, Capital, and Eagle, I get the following scores:
I didn't score out Thunder Ridge or Lake City boys. I don't know that it changes much other than to make the gap between the top 4 schools and the remainder bigger. Centennial has the 44th and 48th speed ratings out of these schools for scorers, Eagle has the 41st and 49th, Highland has the 37th, 42nd, and 47th. Mountain View's got 32nd and 43rd. Where Lake City schools will only have a couple of guys combined in the top 30 but a handful in the 30's and 40's, it would seem like the top 4 are pretty clear at this point.
I'll score out Boise, Rocky, Mountain View, Eagle, Timberline, Owyhee, Capital, Post Falls, CDA, Highland and Thunder Ridge girls today or tomorrow.
Rating out Boise, Rocky, Mountain View, Eagle, Timberline, Owyhee, Capital, Post Falls, CDA, Highland, and Thunder Ridge girls (likely qualifiers IMO):
Boise (without Sammy Smith, you can just subtract 21 points if you include her) 64 Rocky: 109 MV: 111 Eagle: 114 Timberline: 150 Thunder Ridge: 155 Capital: 169 CDA: 184 Owyhee: 185 Highland: 200 Post Falls: 218
Timberline just does not have good speed ratings at 3-5 and gets hammered there. Thunder Ridge gets hit hard at 5. Owyhee gets hit at 4 and 5. Boise, Rocky and Eagle have 4 100+ scores, while Mountain View has their 3, 4 and 5 at 95+. Mountain View makes up ground on Rocky at 1 & 2 but loses it at 3-5. Eagle leads Rocky and MV through 4 but their 5 is 11 spots back of MV's and 13 back of Rocky's.
Someone on the NXN thread pointed out that Heemeyer today ran 1 second slower than Nathan Green did the year he got 2nd at NXR NW and 11th at NXN. Lucas was 10 seconds slower.
Someone on the NXN thread pointed out that Heemeyer today ran 1 second slower than Nathan Green did the year he got 2nd at NXR NW and 11th at NXN. Lucas was 10 seconds slower.
Comparing times overall for the top 50 finishers and kicking out the outliers, average time this year is almost exactly the same as at Bob Firman. I don’t think it always is this way, but that’s how they ran this year.
Someone on the NXN thread pointed out that Heemeyer today ran 1 second slower than Nathan Green did the year he got 2nd at NXR NW and 11th at NXN. Lucas was 10 seconds slower.
Nathan Green ran 15:14 at the IHSAA state meet that year, not 15:19. He also won by 21 seconds that meet. He was 2nd at NXR the year before and 18th at nationals, and had health issues all season during 2019 that resulted in a DNF at Firman and saw him racing cautiously through the state meet. Had he raced it all out, he would have broken 15. Those performances are not remotely comparable.
Heemeyer also ran 15 seconds slower than Athay when he was 6th at NXR that year. Lucas was 2 seconds slower than Russ Richardson in 2019, they have nearly identical Firman/NXR bests, and he was 72nd that year. From this, Landon is going to run somewhere between 2nd and 10th at NXR and Cody Lucas is going to run somewhere from 5th to 75th. I feel pretty good about those predictions.
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