Some left wing states allow abortion up to the day before normal birth...This is inconcievable to anyone with a shred of Human decency....of which many liberals have none.
Well the right has killed 300k Americans in the last year alone with antivax propaganda. Let’s not point too many fingers…
Dr Fauci is on the right? I’m a medical professional and I can remember very vividly his direction that masks were of no use. He later admitted that this was to preserve PPE supplies that the Obama administration (right wing as well?) failed to resupply.
Myself, and many coworkers, instructed patients that Dr. Fauci had stated masks weren’t effective.
Im sure some people caught and succumbed to Covid due to that little white lie.
@chiselworth. Yes, NZ does have a Supreme Court. But unlike yours it's actually a court, not a vehicle for promoting the political views/prejudices of its members. It's also a bit hard for you to point the finger at the "racism" of other countries when yours had over two centuries of slavery, followed by a century of Jim Crow. America leading the world again.
You don't realize how stupid this makes you look, which makes you look even stupider. Not calling you stupid. I would never call another poster on LetsRun.com stupid. But I will kindly and helpfully point out when a post makes someone look stupid. To help them of course.
Ok, then start doing your kind and helpful point out work to the libs who brought up slavery. You won't.
Nah. It’s pretty clear that the furor over abortion was manufactured by powerful evangelical politicians when they realized they were losing the culture war in the 90s. Only a slim minority of strict anti-abortion types (who are a significant minority of Americans) are religious enough to validly make “sanctity of life” arguments. Most are just standard barely-religious Americans swept up in a few decades of propaganda. Anyone who argues this was done “as the right thing to do” has swallowed the conservative oligarch messaging hook-line-and-sinker.
Or they can accurately decipher the proper roles of the Supreme Court and legislative branch of government. You gotta take emotion out of this and look at it from a rational viewpoint. Hard for people to do now. But justice Alito summarized it well in his statement. Roe was legislation at the Supreme Court level. Dobbs gets rid of that overreach and allows the people to vote for representatives that reflect their view on the topic.
I think you’re the one who took the bait.
Upending years of precedent and categorically removing rights from a subset of the population is not obviously correct or rational. Substantive due process is a well accepted doctrine that is only controversial to the most ardent conservatives justices. Nothing changes the fact that Roe was not a huge political fulcrum until there was a massive push to turn it into a national issue from conservative oligarchs. It was incredibly politically savvy but anyone who acts like this decisions is anything but political gamesmanship has been hoodwinked by smarter and wealthier interests.
I'm pro choice and think abortion should be legal nationwide.
I also disagreed with Roe and am not sorry it was overturned.
Abortion needs to be made legal by Congress, preferably by consumitimutuonal amendment, not by a reversible interpretation of due process.
Roe has also basically made it impossible for a true moderate, especially a center right moderate, to ever make the court.
Thisbrukingbsolved a few problems long term. It put a ietion back where it belongs, Congress. It also removed a hurdle for a moderate republican to get to the bench. It will have some short term pain but that is ok, all long term progress involves short term pain
Or they can accurately decipher the proper roles of the Supreme Court and legislative branch of government. You gotta take emotion out of this and look at it from a rational viewpoint. Hard for people to do now. But justice Alito summarized it well in his statement. Roe was legislation at the Supreme Court level. Dobbs gets rid of that overreach and allows the people to vote for representatives that reflect their view on the topic.
I think you’re the one who took the bait.
Upending years of precedent and categorically removing rights from a subset of the population is not obviously correct or rational. Substantive due process is a well accepted doctrine that is only controversial to the most ardent conservatives justices. Nothing changes the fact that Roe was not a huge political fulcrum until there was a massive push to turn it into a national issue from conservative oligarchs. It was incredibly politically savvy but anyone who acts like this decisions is anything but political gamesmanship has been hoodwinked by smarter and wealthier interests.
No, the original issue was in the original decision. Even RBG said so. They went for the home run instead of an incremental decision and then allowing the other states to decide.
Furthermore, progressives shot themselves in the foot by continuing to push for more lax abortion restrictions. We went from rare and when medically necessary to up to and including 9 months.
Most Americans who claim to be pro choice shudder at the idea of late term abortion. Most people are ok with first trimester or in the exceedingly rare situations in late term abortions when the mothers life is in danger.
The Supreme Court ruling is fine. Roe was poor law.
You don't realize how stupid this makes you look, which makes you look even stupider. Not calling you stupid. I would never call another poster on LetsRun.com stupid. But I will kindly and helpfully point out when a post makes someone look stupid. To help them of course.
Tell your side to stop rioting. You sore loser.
I support all peaceful protests and will actively encourage them. I'm probably going to be attending at some point. I'm not a "sore loser." Debating is a game to me, but politics isn't. Yesterday was a dark day in American politics and the history of the world. I feel incredibly sad.
No one has the right to destroy the life of another human. Especially for the myriad ridiculous reasons women claim. 98% of abortions have nothing to do with medical reasons.
So let's destroy the life of a woman. What's so great news about that.
I support all peaceful protests and will actively encourage them. I'm probably going to be attending at some point. I'm not a "sore loser." Debating is a game to me, but politics isn't. Yesterday was a dark day in American politics and the history of the world. I feel incredibly sad.
It was actually a bright day. The Supreme Court is sending power to the states to decide on abortion. It was a dark day when the Supreme Court legislated roe from the bench.
No one has the right to destroy the life of another human. Especially for the myriad ridiculous reasons women claim. 98% of abortions have nothing to do with medical reasons.
So let's destroy the life of a woman. What's so great news about that.
Barack Obama called abortion the “most intensely personal decision”. He conveniently left out the fact that having sex with someone is actually the most intensely personal decision we make. It is, after all, what leads to the need for an abortion. Pregnancy is easily avoidable. I can go to my local health department and get condoms for free. It also doesn’t cost me anything to not have sex if I’m not in a position to deal with the consequences of said action
So let's destroy the life of a woman. What's so great news about that.
Barack Obama called abortion the “most intensely personal decision”. He conveniently left out the fact that having sex with someone is actually the most intensely personal decision we make. It is, after all, what leads to the need for an abortion. Pregnancy is easily avoidable. I can go to my local health department and get condoms for free. It also doesn’t cost me anything to not have sex if I’m not in a position to deal with the consequences of said action
Unless you get raped. Then it's out of your control and you have to carry the pregnancy to term. But the rareness of these cases makes it okay to Republicans. Who cares if a few women have their lives ruined by being forced to carry their rapists baby?
Fat hurts has been very quiet on this thread. He should be rejoicing too as he is pro-life, like me. He's too ashamed to be on the opposite side of his fellow libs.
C'mon Fats, show your support and stop being afraid of getting attacked by the libs- I'll defend ya. You can do it!
Exactly, the 14th amendment does not say that any more than the 2nd amendment says people can only have muskets. Deranged leftists only want to interpret the constitution and laws in ways that give them what they want, not how they are actually written.
Maybe they were talking about shaving the hair for bare arms.
