Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

It Don't Matter to Me wrote:

she does not care wrote:

Shooting down the 'protect' Melania smoke screen is Melania herself.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/donald-trump-cheating-affair-melania-trump-156937/

Melania not caring and Trump not caring about the repercussions for himself within his relationship with Melania are two entirely different things.

Neither of which require the protection of Melania to win an election.

See, here's the thing... wrote:

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

The Justice Department and FBI are only out to get the President and Republicans. They change the laws for Democrats.

You're not the first person I've encountered who's expressed those sentiments.

But how do you figure? DOJ and FBI are both part of the Executive Branch, which is headed by the President . . . who's had the backing of GOP majorities in both houses of Congress for the last 20+ months. Why not clean house?

Not really being argumentative here, but I seriously don't get it.

There is nothing to get. It is whackadoodle stuff. He is flat out wrong about how things work.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Wrong. The government just has to prove that Tiny knew he was making these payments to affect the election. That's what makes it a campaign contribution.

Good freakin' grief! How can someone comment like Thisthreadisridiculous just did? I understand that not everyone knows how this works, but there's a name for those people -- "silent".

Thisthreadisridiculous -- there are people here other than just me who know how things work. Do your research before posting such nonsense or you will surely be called on it. As a tip, listening to most of Fox News isn't proper research.

Watching CNN and Jeff Toobin doesn’t make you any more informed. I don’t have a security clearance. I have to rely on what the media presents to me. I rely on someone you don’t agree with and that is Alan Dershowitz. He believes campaign finance laws and obstruction of justice are very vague. You (Flagpole) find it extremely serious and Armageddon. He goes on to say that Meuller is trying to create a crime where their just isn’t a crime.

Look if Dershowitz has another motive for all this ( Israel, like you said in the past) then I will admit I was wrong. But he has been mostly spot on.

Fat hurts wrote:

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

But he can make the payments to protect his family. Plus he has to report it after the election.

But he did not report it after the election. There are strict rules about timeliness of reporting. Thus, it's a campaign finance violation.

The only way he is innocent is if he thought the payment was only to protect his family. That's not plausible and we have tapes and witnesses to back up the fact that Tiny knew it was to protect the campaign.

The payment might have had a dual purpose. Tiny might have had both his family and the campaign in mind when he did it. But the legal part doesn't get him off the hook for the illegal part.

CORRECT! (Man it feels good to be able to type that word).

SDNY didn't indicate that Trump committed two felonies just based on nothing and not just based on Cohen's word either. It has good reason to believe Trump violated the FELONY portion of the campaign finance law. Any defending him on this point is ludicrous.

trump wouldn't have formed a super secret private company just for paying off women if it were just a regular expense. And he wouldn't have reimbursed Michael Cohen in hidden secret payments either.

President is a felon. Live with it. Go with that.

I'll agree campaign finance felonies are weak sauce, but he's a felon, for sure. Does that mean he can't vote anymore, if convicted?

He has not been mostly spot on. His views have been disputed right from the beginning with all this Trump stuff, and in one case Michael Avenatti actually published a law that showed Dershowitz was wrong. He has been exposed by a litany of lawyers on the vast majority of his opinions.

You are picking ONE lawyer to support your position as opposed to a mountain of others who say he is wrong. I will side with the SDNY and their lawyers and prosecutors over an in-pasture no-longer-practicing lawyer any day, especially since everyone else and their brother says he is wrong.

agip wrote:

trump wouldn't have formed a super secret private company just for paying off women if it were just a regular expense. And he wouldn't have reimbursed Michael Cohen in hidden secret payments either.

President is a felon. Live with it. Go with that.

I'll agree campaign finance felonies are weak sauce, but he's a felon, for sure. Does that mean he can't vote anymore, if convicted?

Campaign Finance felonies are weak sauce but ONLY compared to the other things he is facing -- obstruction of justice, bank fraud, money laundering, CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Even the emoluments clause violation is perhaps worse depending on the severity of the charges. We start small and get more serious over time.

BUT, there are two types of campaign finance law violations...an innocent mistake, and willful deceit. The latter is a felony and rightfully so, and it is the kind (two charges) that Trump committed.

A felony is defined as a "serious" crime, usually punishable by at least a year in prison.

These campaign finance laws were put into place to keep rich people and corrupt people from buying elections...to create transparency. It is not "Armageddon" as was suggested that liberals believe, BUT it is still a felony (TWO felonies).

It is news. It is a big deal to have a US President in office who has very likely committed two felonies.

Is a felony bigger than "high crimes and misdemeanors"? I say yes. Only spin says no.

she does not care wrote:

The payment might have had a dual purpose. Tiny might have had both his family and the campaign in mind when he did it. But the legal part doesn't get him off the hook for the illegal part.

Shooting down the 'protect' Melania smoke screen is Melania herself. [/quote]

While interesting in general, I don't think it would be material at trial. The issue is what Tiny thought the money was for. Even if Melania didn't care about the affairs, they both may care about their reputations.

The only real issue is if Tiny knew he was using money to affect the election. Clearly, he did.

Clearly, our president is a felon.

agip wrote:

trump wouldn't have formed a super secret private company just for paying off women if it were just a regular expense. And he wouldn't have reimbursed Michael Cohen in hidden secret payments either.

President is a felon. Live with it. Go with that.

I'll agree campaign finance felonies are weak sauce, but he's a felon, for sure. Does that mean he can't vote anymore, if convicted?

Whether or not felons can vote depends on the state.

I actually believe they SHOULD be allowed to vote after serving their debt to society.

Fat hurts wrote:

she does not care wrote:

The payment might have had a dual purpose. Tiny might have had both his family and the campaign in mind when he did it. But the legal part doesn't get him off the hook for the illegal part.

Shooting down the 'protect' Melania smoke screen is Melania herself.

While interesting in general, I don't think it would be material at trial. The issue is what Tiny thought the money was for. Even if Melania didn't care about the affairs, they both may care about their reputations.

The only real issue is if Tiny knew he was using money to affect the election. Clearly, he did.

Clearly, our president is a felon.[/quote]

To be fair...watch me be fair Trumpers (as I ALWAYS am by the way)...right now the SDNY has just implicated Trump in a felony (two of them actually). He has not been convicted or pleaded guilty, so he's not yet a "felon". I KNOW you know that, but I'm just demonstrating how fair I am.

Rea Quire wrote:

It Don't Matter to Me wrote:

Melania not caring and Trump not caring about the repercussions for himself within his relationship with Melania are two entirely different things.

Neither of which require the protection of Melania to win an election.

Your post does not make any sense at all. Care to try again - this time using English?

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Shooting down the 'protect' Melania smoke screen is Melania herself.

While interesting in general, I don't think it would be material at trial. The issue is what Tiny thought the money was for. Even if Melania didn't care about the affairs, they both may care about their reputations.

The only real issue is if Tiny knew he was using money to affect the election. Clearly, he did.

Clearly, our president is a felon.

To be fair...watch me be fair Trumpers (as I ALWAYS am by the way)...right now the SDNY has just implicated Trump in a felony (two of them actually). He has not been convicted or pleaded guilty, so he's not yet a "felon". I KNOW you know that, but I'm just demonstrating how fair I am.[/quote]

WOW! You are really fair! I mean really, REALLY fair!

You are just SO fair! My goodness, you are FAIR!

psig bvjewa wrote:

Your post does not make any sense at all. Care to try again - this time using English?

In 'preferred' language (Trumpanzee): Where thereis smocking gun thereis liar!

smocking gun wrote:

psig bvjewa wrote:

Your post does not make any sense at all. Care to try again - this time using English?

In 'preferred' language (Trumpanzee): Where thereis smocking gun thereis liar!

So, you are unable to form cohesive thoughts. Got it.

Wowzers!!!!!!! wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

While interesting in general, I don't think it would be material at trial. The issue is what Tiny thought the money was for. Even if Melania didn't care about the affairs, they both may care about their reputations.

The only real issue is if Tiny knew he was using money to affect the election. Clearly, he did.

Clearly, our president is a felon.

To be fair...watch me be fair Trumpers (as I ALWAYS am by the way)...right now the SDNY has just implicated Trump in a felony (two of them actually). He has not been convicted or pleaded guilty, so he's not yet a "felon". I KNOW you know that, but I'm just demonstrating how fair I am.

WOW! You are really fair! I mean really, REALLY fair!

You are just SO fair! My goodness, you are FAIR![/quote]

Indeed! Fairest in all the land!

As agip says: “You have really sold your soul. You are dirt and you are against honesty and good government.”

Wowzers!!!!!!! wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

While interesting in general, I don't think it would be material at trial. The issue is what Tiny thought the money was for. Even if Melania didn't care about the affairs, they both may care about their reputations.

The only real issue is if Tiny knew he was using money to affect the election. Clearly, he did.

Clearly, our president is a felon.

To be fair...watch me be fair Trumpers (as I ALWAYS am by the way)...right now the SDNY has just implicated Trump in a felony (two of them actually). He has not been convicted or pleaded guilty, so he's not yet a "felon". I KNOW you know that, but I'm just demonstrating how fair I am.

WOW! You are really fair! I mean really, REALLY fair!

You are just SO fair! My goodness, you are FAIR![/quote]

This is true, but you need to cut down on the caffeine.

Bigly Indeedly wrote:

Wowzers!!!!!!! wrote:

To be fair...watch me be fair Trumpers (as I ALWAYS am by the way)...right now the SDNY has just implicated Trump in a felony (two of them actually). He has not been convicted or pleaded guilty, so he's not yet a "felon". I KNOW you know that, but I'm just demonstrating how fair I am.

WOW! You are really fair! I mean really, REALLY fair!

You are just SO fair! My goodness, you are FAIR!

Indeed! Fairest in all the land![/quote]

While I am worthy of praise (despite AND due to what you are doing there), I am but a man...a very handsome, intelligent man with great musical skills and HUGE biceps, but just a man nonetheless.

psdaspngn wrote:

smocking gun wrote:

In 'preferred' language (Trumpanzee): Where thereis smocking gun thereis liar!

So, you are unable to form cohesive thoughts. Got it.

Unpresidented

Smocking Gun

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