Did anyone else notice Trump is now adding disease to the list of things being brought over the border?
Also fentanyl is a prescription drug and the biggest drug problem we have is with prescription drug use and addiction.
Alan
Did anyone else notice Trump is now adding disease to the list of things being brought over the border?
Also fentanyl is a prescription drug and the biggest drug problem we have is with prescription drug use and addiction.
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
Did anyone else notice Trump is now adding disease to the list of things being brought over the border?
Also fentanyl is a prescription drug and the biggest drug problem we have is with prescription drug use and addiction.
Alan
And fentanyl is coming from China, which also hacked Mariott to the tune of 300 million guests, in addition to the Huawei CFO selling to the Iranians.
Fat hurts wrote:
Racket wrote:
Gonna be closer to 90k. Audi e-Tron GT is set at 80k right now so 75k for the Porsche would mess up VW's pricing tier
From Road and Track:
Speaking to Automotive News, the model-line director for the Taycan, Rober Meier, said "we're expecting a price somewhere between a Cayenne and a Panamera," when asked how much the EV will cost. In the US, the Cayenne starts at just under $66,000, while the Panamera starts at $85,000. So perhaps the Taycan will start in the $75,000 range.
If 80K is correct for the e-Tron, you have a good point though. I guess we will wait and see. Won't be out for almost a year.
So these things are for the rich only?
Apparently the House of Representatives doesn’t understand why if you Google “idiot” a picture of Donald Trump comes up. I laughed out loud. I mean, why does a picture of an orange come up when you google “orange”?
Runningart2004 wrote:
Did anyone else notice Trump is now adding disease to the list of things being brought over the border?
Not long ago, somebody on Fox News was saying that they were bringing in smallpox, which of course was eradicated from the earth in 1980.
Rich dad poor dad wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
From Road and Track:
If 80K is correct for the e-Tron, you have a good point though. I guess we will wait and see. Won't be out for almost a year.
So these things are for the rich only?
Well I doubt you'll see a high performance all electric fully loaded Audi or Porsche for low income people anytime soon. I hear the Chevy Bolt is wonderful entry level EV though
Rich dad poor dad wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
From Road and Track:
If 80K is correct for the e-Tron, you have a good point though. I guess we will wait and see. Won't be out for almost a year.
So these things are for the rich only?
No. Like other cars, you can buy a luxury model if you want to pay more for the very latest technology.
My Chevy Bolt starts at 35K. With the tax credit, you can still get it for under 30K.
Tesla still says it is coming out with its own 35K version of the Model 3 in 4 to 5 months.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rich dad poor dad wrote:
So these things are for the rich only?
No. Like other cars, you can buy a luxury model if you want to pay more for the very latest technology.
My Chevy Bolt starts at 35K. With the tax credit, you can still get it for under 30K.
Tesla still says it is coming out with its own 35K version of the Model 3 in 4 to 5 months.
Starts at $35K?
Like I said - only for the rich.
Rich dad poor dad wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
No. Like other cars, you can buy a luxury model if you want to pay more for the very latest technology.
My Chevy Bolt starts at 35K. With the tax credit, you can still get it for under 30K.
Tesla still says it is coming out with its own 35K version of the Model 3 in 4 to 5 months.
Starts at $35K?
Like I said - only for the rich.
The average price for a new car in the US is $35,742.
With the tax credit, you can get it for around 28K. That's the 2017 Motor Trend Car of the Year for only 28K. You can also buy a used one for much less than that.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rich dad poor dad wrote:
Starts at $35K?
Like I said - only for the rich.
The average price for a new car in the US is $35,742.
With the tax credit, you can get it for around 28K. That's the 2017 Motor Trend Car of the Year for only 28K. You can also buy a used one for much less than that.
how do you charge your car if you live in an apartment?
how far can you go on a charge with a large electric vehicle? i have 5 kids and would need something that seats 7.
Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Have you read the Fourth Turning?
I have not, but a brief description of it that I just read makes it seem interesting.
It is an excellent read - talks about generational cycles and how general public attitudes shift over time lending to the nation getting on different paths, or stages. I'll let you guess which stage we are in right now... btw this book was written in the 90s, seems a good predictor so far.
1. High - “an upbeat era of strengthening institutions and weakening individualism, when a new civic order implants and the old values regime decays.”
2. Awakening - “a passionate are of spiritual upheaval, when the civic order comes under attack from a new values regime.”
3. Unraveling - “a downcast era of strengthening individualism and weakening institutions, when the old civic order decays and the new values regime implants.”
4. Crisis - “a decisive era of secular upheaval, when the values regime propels the replacement of the old civic order with a new one.”
Fat hurts wrote:
Rich dad poor dad wrote:
Starts at $35K?
Like I said - only for the rich.
The average price for a new car in the US is $35,742.
With the tax credit, you can get it for around 28K. That's the 2017 Motor Trend Car of the Year for only 28K. You can also buy a used one for much less than that.
You can get a beautiful well maintained Ur-Quattro for 35k right now. I know where my money would go.
Also, average new car payment is like 520 a month or something stupid. How do average people afford that? They don't. Get 'em Flagpole! Talk some sense into the average American
Fat hurts wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Did anyone else notice Trump is now adding disease to the list of things being brought over the border?
Not long ago, somebody on Fox News was saying that they were bringing in smallpox, which of course was eradicated from the earth in 1980.
Let him keep appealing to a dying group, he’ll soon see this one off tactic is a failure.
Loved to see Pelosi going for the jugular. She was quoted questioning his manhood - ouch. It is also now officially Trump’s shutdown, he took full ownership. The 5-yr old is going to put his own house on fire because he’s angry but he’s going to be stuck inside and by the time his tantrum is over and he realizes what’s happening everyone else has already left the premises and he’s stuck there all alone.
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
We need to be on the lookout for a Donald Trump 2.0, but it isn't likely in the near term (I consider 16 years still the near term). Here's why:
1) Trump had a perfect storm that got him elected...a not-likable Democrat candidate in a change election, a brash thought-to-be billionaire who said he wouldn't take money from any big donors, an electorate ready for a populist candidate, and the illegal help of Russia and perhaps Israel and other countries too.
2) Trump 1.0 is going to end up paying greatly for his crimes, his lies, and his populist authoritarian tendencies (let's be clear here, "populist" is mostly used as a derogatory term, and populism typically has a very short life cycle).
3) Now, a Trump 2.0 might try to raise his or her ugly head 30+ years from now...time between Nixon and Trump was about 45 years, so we might find that level of criminality again after at least 30 years. Right now the Republicans have the top two MOST CRIMINAL presidents in Trump (1) and Nixon (2), and unless the Republican Party greatly changes, those mouth-breathers will be the ones to put in the next huge criminal.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Hmmmm
Immigration on the rise, anti-globalist/establishment and nationalist sentiment at an all time high in Europe, bear market in Europe and *checks current favored Democrat to face Trump in 2020; oh, it's Joe Biden, an old white establishment Democrat that no one will really be excited about *... Yep, Trump or Trump 2.0 doesn't stand a chance! This is the tip of the iceberg brother, and I'd watch out for what's happening in Europe in regards to Macron (who for now still holds a good grip on his government), Germany, and the UK where Teresa May might be facing a vote of no confidence for her under-perfomance on the runner up in Most Retarded Vote In 2016 award.
Here's a better reason : If you voted for that clown in 2016, why would you not vote for him in 2020 or someone like him in the future? His approval rating is up, and no one cares if he colluded with Russia. By "no one cares" I mean the average working person or would be susceptible to voting for Trump or Trump 2.0. My point is these people exist and will always exist in large enough numbers to throw the election to Trump or someone like him. So how do you convince them to not? The problem is, what I just typed has been hashed and rehashed so many goddamn times and there still isn't really a clear answer. Your best bet is a bear market in the US (which is probably inbound for 2019) so rich Republicans who held their nose last time at least stay home
I think Biden is more popular now then when he was VP. The elephant in the room is his son and the reason why he didn’t run in 2016. I think for many he was the candidate they really wanted in 2016.
Populism or Nationalism works for an aging racist scared population.
Alan
Alan
Trollminator wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Not long ago, somebody on Fox News was saying that they were bringing in smallpox, which of course was eradicated from the earth in 1980.
Let him keep appealing to a dying group, he’ll soon see this one off tactic is a failure.
Loved to see Pelosi going for the jugular. She was quoted questioning his manhood - ouch. It is also now officially Trump’s shutdown, he took full ownership. The 5-yr old is going to put his own house on fire because he’s angry but he’s going to be stuck inside and by the time his tantrum is over and he realizes what’s happening everyone else has already left the premises and he’s stuck there all alone.
Hey fun fact but did you know Nancy Peolsi opened a huge long position on Amazon that seemed kind of a stretch and then Amazon and the market soared a week later and she cashed out for like 10x her original investment because politicians are allowed to insider trade?
Now you know :D
Speaking of the ages of politicians...
The Dems have two young, charismatic leaders: AOC and Beto. Look, they even have nicknames.
This is a change - a year ago the talk was of how old and leaderless the Dems are.
There is no similar young leader among the right wing politicians.
Small samples, but sometimes it only takes a couple people to move a few million votes.
Interesting change, too.
agip wrote:
Speaking of the ages of politicians...
The Dems have two young, charismatic leaders: AOC and Beto. Look, they even have nicknames.
This is a change - a year ago the talk was of how old and leaderless the Dems are.
There is no similar young leader among the right wing politicians.
Small samples, but sometimes it only takes a couple people to move a few million votes.
Interesting change, too.
Young Republicans all seem to think Tom Cotton is going to lead them to the promised land.
I like Beto's platform but he needed to win Texas to have a chance in the presidential race.
Racket wrote:
agip wrote:
Speaking of the ages of politicians...
The Dems have two young, charismatic leaders: AOC and Beto. Look, they even have nicknames.
This is a change - a year ago the talk was of how old and leaderless the Dems are.
There is no similar young leader among the right wing politicians.
Small samples, but sometimes it only takes a couple people to move a few million votes.
Interesting change, too.
Young Republicans all seem to think Tom Cotton is going to lead them to the promised land.
I like Beto's platform but he needed to win Texas to have a chance in the presidential race.
disagree - Dems and Is are so hungry for leadership that they will latch on to Beto. I mean have you seen his talk about kneeling being a American protest? It is bloody genius. And he comes off as authentic, not a phony like HRC. Beto won a straw poll yesterday - he's the front runner as far as I am concerned.
Policy just doesn't matter right now.
Beto picks a black veep and it's all over.
Beto-Booker? Beto - Abrams?
Beto booker sounds pretty darn good.
agip wrote:
Speaking of the ages of politicians...
The Dems have two young, charismatic leaders: AOC and Beto. Look, they even have nicknames.
This is a change - a year ago the talk was of how old and leaderless the Dems are.
There is no similar young leader among the right wing politicians.
Small samples, but sometimes it only takes a couple people to move a few million votes.
Interesting change, too.
AOC is definitely the future of our Party. She is an absolute rock star and has already put several Repubs in their place.
agip wrote:
Racket wrote:
Young Republicans all seem to think Tom Cotton is going to lead them to the promised land.
I like Beto's platform but he needed to win Texas to have a chance in the presidential race.
disagree - Dems and Is are so hungry for leadership that they will latch on to Beto. I mean have you seen his talk about kneeling being a American protest? It is bloody genius. And he comes off as authentic, not a phony like HRC. Beto won a straw poll yesterday - he's the front runner as far as I am concerned.
Policy just doesn't matter right now.
Beto picks a black veep and it's all over.
Beto-Booker? Beto - Abrams?
Beto booker sounds pretty darn good.
Beto-Harris 2020.
Take it to the bank my friend. It's an unbeatable combination.