Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

STSBO wrote:

Racket wrote:

Wow I bet you're fun at parties.

Ooh, I LOVE that reply. So clever!

Thanks! Second in cleverness only to Flagpole

Racket wrote:

STSBO wrote:

Ooh, I LOVE that reply. So clever!

Thanks! Second in cleverness only to Flagpole

OK, now that was clever.

Kudos and respect!

And our president is basically above the law....see Reagan and Iran-Contra, see Clinton and Lewinsky and I’m sure there’s more....maybe Bush lying about Iraq’s 9-11 involvement but I think maybe he was just an idiot led by war hawks. Without the tapes Nixon wasn’t getting impeached and convicted and so he wasn’t going to resign. So long as the DOJ maintains their no indictment policy and as long as impeachment remains a partisan political solution our president remains above the law except in extreme circumstances such as trying to completely ignore the constitution. I say amend the constitution so that impeachment is done through a bipartisan committee of Reps and Senators with a 50/50 split R and D. This way impeachment is done through the House still and conviction in the Senate but through a bipartisan commitee.

Alan

Wait Wait What? wrote:

Racket wrote:

Need oil for synthetic fibers and plastics too so it's coming up out of the ground regardless. Rest assured that you'll feel extra smug about your EV when oil prices sky rocket thanks to Donnie's pal Vlad who agreed to cut production with the Saudis so it looks like he sold his stupid soul for nothing when he ignored the killing of that journalist.

Long UWT

Wait, did you just say that since we need to take 1 barrel out of the ground then we might as well take 1,000 barrels? No difference, right?

WTF?

I said it's coming up out of the ground regardless and to go long on UWT which *checks current price* is up 8% today so far.

WTF?

STSBO wrote:

OK, now that was clever.

Kudos and respect!

You should have been here a couple weeks ago when Fat Hurts tried to convert Flagpole to Christianity.

Democrats lose again wrote:

rasmussenreports

Fake poll.

agip wrote:

well I'd disagree with you there. I could see several paths to impeachment. I'd argue the House wouldn't have much choice NOT to impeach if some of the worst case scenarios come about from Mueller/SDNY/Journalists.

There certainly could be a point at which impeachment would almost be a necessity by the House. If serious impeachable offenses arise and the House does not move to impeach, the question could always be asked "if it was such a big deal then why didn't you impeach". On the other hand, if Trump is impeached unsuccessfully, the political move would be to lay out to the public the charges and evidence against the President and then point out that the GOP Senators wouldn't convict despite "overwhelming evidence".

With that said, the talk of impeachment currently is a mistake and very premature. It has the potential of lessening an impeachment effort later on should more significant evidence arise which....despite the predictions of some that it will....it hasn't to this point.

FL-AZ-NV wrote:

Trump will not win FL, AZ or NV.

I don't think a definitive declaration on a Florida vote can be made.

Racket wrote:

STSBO wrote:

OK, now that was clever.

Kudos and respect!

You should have been here a couple weeks ago when Fat Hurts tried to convert Flagpole to Christianity.

To be fair to Fat Hurts, he was just explaining his view and not trying to convert me at all. I respect Christians who are like that.

Could the Trump supporters explain to me why Trump is threatening to shut down the government if congress won't pass a bill to force American tax payers to spend $5 billion dollars toward a border wall? He did very clearly and numerous times promise that Mexico would pay for this wall, so why does he know demand the American people pony up $5 billion dollars? And the total estimate was that it would be a minimum of $12 billion... but again, why is this an American tax payer problem? He was unequivocal that Mexico would pay. He is endlessly adamant about what an amazing deal maker he is - so why? Why is Mexico not paying to build this wall as promised by the president? Why are american people, government employees, potentially going to stop being paid (right before Christmas) because Trump can't fulfil his promise? Is the Mexican president, Obrador, just that much better than Trump? Does this illustrate that Mexican's are smarter, stronger and all around better than Americans? Is that why Trump can't close this deal? Mexicans are just superior? Or is Trump just the weak link?

Oh no he isn't!

Trump is playing 14 dimensional chess while you and all you lib rats are playing with your buggers. Trump is a GENIUS! Mexico WILL pay for the wall. Mexico will pay for 14 walls. And they won't even notice. In fact NOBODY will notice! THAT is what an INCREDIBLE deal maker Trump is.

M A GEE A M A GEE A

Neener, neener, neener!

My position on this matter is shifting. Initially I thought impeachment would be a terrible idea as they would not have enough votes and it would hurt Dems not to have a smoking gun. But I’m starting to believe it may be a very good idea strategically. Let’s assume the Mueller report is out and as I expect there will be no smoking gun just a whole bunch of very convincing Trump criminality that the right is already expecting and numb to (call it deep state, bias, whatever).

The House will impeach and it would be hung up in the senate without the votes, so he wouldn’t leave office. However, it would amount to the GOP openly admitting he is a criminal that gets a pass, with stuff not even close to comparable with Bill. It is possible that without a strong candidate in 2020 the Dems may need to inflict enough damage on Trump to secure his loss. I know on the surface it doesn’t seem he would win, but without a strong Dem candidate and with 45-46% of the vote and some Russian assistance he could get there again.

The Dems will be able to tell the public they voted for their majority to get him out, as supported by the blue wave in the House. Is there any reason to think the Mueller report won’t be very compelling? I think trump would implode trying to defend himself publicly if impeachment is started. Would enough people really vote for a president who has been impeached by the House?

Fat hurts wrote:

Racket wrote:

If that's a challenge then I'll see you at the next red light

Looking forward to it. Should be fun. I love shaming muscle cars in my EV hatchback.

Why are electric cars so tiny?

That dress though wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

I’m aware. It would be rather stupid to impeach when you know he won’t be convicted. It’s all just political theater at that point to please a base. F that noise.

Alan

Do you likewise believe the impeachment of Bill Clinton was just political theater? I disagree with you; an impeachment, even without a subsequent conviction, can be very damaging. I’m not saying I support one against Trump, just that the potential inability to convict in the senate is not a reason to refuse to impeach. It actually undermines the entire process if you skip ahead to guess what the senate may do as a determination of whether to seek to impeach or not.

I think the GOP would look like they are protecting a criminal, period. I have no doubt the Mueller report will pack some juice.

Flagpole wrote:

Racket wrote:

You should have been here a couple weeks ago when Fat Hurts tried to convert Flagpole to Christianity.

To be fair to Fat Hurts, he was just explaining his view and not trying to convert me at all. I respect Christians who are like that.

No. He was trying to convert you. You just weren't aware of it. Jesus said he has to do it.

Teeney Tiny wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Looking forward to it. Should be fun. I love shaming muscle cars in my EV hatchback.

Why are electric cars so tiny?

Are these cars good for road trips?

Teeney Tiny wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Looking forward to it. Should be fun. I love shaming muscle cars in my EV hatchback.

Why are electric cars so tiny?

I actually sat in a Tesla and didn't fit so good question

Racket wrote:

That dress though wrote:

Do you likewise believe the impeachment of Bill Clinton was just political theater?

It was 100% political theater by Republicans looking for revenge over Nixon. They tried to get Clinton on freakin' Christmas cards.

It’s always going to look like political theater for approx half the nation. The standard has been lowered by every means for trump so nothing is going to stick. There is that angle of appearing to do the right thing. If there is enough meat in the Mueller report that they can’t ignore they will drift into impeachment. It will get ugly for Dems but that much uglier for GOP and Trump having to defend him. The real question is whether an impeachment is needed to increase the Dems’ odds on 2020.