Make America Great Again wrote:
Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi were never part of the Trump campaign. There was no collusion between Russia and Team Trump.
Hi Lying Gary, how goes it?
What ever happened to "toofseaker", "blackpeegunsmatter" and all the others?
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Lying Gary
Make America Great Again wrote:
Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi were never part of the Trump campaign.
Wrong on one and right on the other.
TTH wrote:
Make America Great Again wrote:
Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi were never part of the Trump campaign.
Wrong on one and right on the other.
Incorrect. They both provided intel (stolen email info) to the Trump campaign. They are part of the Trump campaign. It makes no difference if they were officially involved or not. The law does not work that way.
-- Corsi provided research on Democratic figures during the campaign to Stone, a longtime Trump adviser. “I was telling people as early as August, I thought Assange had Podesta emails, and I thought he was going to drop them in October,” Corsi said.
-- Roger Stone sold himself to Trump campaign advisers as a potential conduit to WikiLeaks.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/us/politics/wikileaks-roger-stone-trump.htmlTTH wrote:
Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
Not sure why no one listens but Alan Dershowitz has been spot on about the entire probe thus far. He still doesn’t think criminal charges will be filed on President Trump or anyone closely related to him. He said Trump better be ready for a war politically. I always thought this probe was about Russia’s involvement in the election and Trump was just a subset. Looks like this is just a vicious war to bring down Trump and try and get an excuse for why they lost the election.
You can use as many handles as you wish to express how little you understand about the investigation.
Okay dude, unless you have a clearance with need to know knowledge; you rely on the media for your opinion.
Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
TTH wrote:
You can use as many handles as you wish to express how little you understand about the investigation.
Okay dude, unless you have a clearance with need to know knowledge; you rely on the media for your opinion.
You probably thought that you had a point you were making when you typed that.
Flagpole wrote:
Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
Not sure why no one listens but Alan Dershowitz has been spot on about the entire probe thus far. He still doesn’t think criminal charges will be filed on President Trump or anyone closely related to him. He said Trump better be ready for a war politically. I always thought this probe was about Russia’s involvement in the election and Trump was just a subset. Looks like this is just a vicious war to bring down Trump and try and get an excuse for why they lost the election.
1) Trump may avoid JAIL based on combination of plea bargain and Pence pardon, and things could shake out so that he doesn't suffer any criminal charges at all, but that's a smaller chance.
2) Who is anyone close to him? Manafort? Flynn? Do you mean family only? Don Jr. WILL face criminal charges. Ivanka has a greater and greater chance every day to face criminal charges, especially with her work with the Trump Organization. Eric will likely also face charges with regard to the Trump Organization. Don Jr. will face conspiracy charges.
3) Your last sentence is just ridiculous. With all the obstruction Trump has engaged in publicly, all the criminals he has surrounded himself with and defends, all the butt kissing he does to Putin, the conspiracy we all know Kushner, Don Jr., and Manafort engaged in, it is insane at this point to believe this is trying to bring Trump down ILLEGITIMATELY for an excuse why Democrats lost the election.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Most of your post is repeating yourself over and over again. I got it from your perspective but it’s largely centered on mainstream platforms. We all know you and 5 others think Armageddon will happen to POTUS and his family. My question is I thought this was an investigation on Russia’s influence on the election? Trump was just a subset from what I gathered. When the Meuller report comes out what is the central focus?
Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) Trump may avoid JAIL based on combination of plea bargain and Pence pardon, and things could shake out so that he doesn't suffer any criminal charges at all, but that's a smaller chance.
2) Who is anyone close to him? Manafort? Flynn? Do you mean family only? Don Jr. WILL face criminal charges. Ivanka has a greater and greater chance every day to face criminal charges, especially with her work with the Trump Organization. Eric will likely also face charges with regard to the Trump Organization. Don Jr. will face conspiracy charges.
3) Your last sentence is just ridiculous. With all the obstruction Trump has engaged in publicly, all the criminals he has surrounded himself with and defends, all the butt kissing he does to Putin, the conspiracy we all know Kushner, Don Jr., and Manafort engaged in, it is insane at this point to believe this is trying to bring Trump down ILLEGITIMATELY for an excuse why Democrats lost the election.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Most of your post is repeating yourself over and over again. I got it from your perspective but it’s largely centered on mainstream platforms. We all know you and 5 others think Armageddon will happen to POTUS and his family. My question is I thought this was an investigation on Russia’s influence on the election? Trump was just a subset from what I gathered. When the Meuller report comes out what is the central focus?
1) Armageddon? Why the hyperbole? I have never said that. I deal with justice and the law only.
2) Your "question" is a statement, not a question. And, when dealing with your statement, you thought wrong. Have you read the original letter from Rod Rosenstein? From the letter:
"any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
3) You are hoping to distance Trump from the investigation, but that just shows that you know Mueller is closing in. Is Trump not "associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump"?
4) AND "and matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation". Well, Mueller has found some other things. Some of those things he sent to the SDNY. New York Prosecutors are investigating the Trump Organization which is bad for Ivanka and Eric. Don Jr. was already in trouble based on Mueller's investigation, but he is in more trouble based on the Trump Organization investigation.
Knowledge is power, brother.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
Most of your post is repeating yourself over and over again. I got it from your perspective but it’s largely centered on mainstream platforms. We all know you and 5 others think Armageddon will happen to POTUS and his family. My question is I thought this was an investigation on Russia’s influence on the election? Trump was just a subset from what I gathered. When the Meuller report comes out what is the central focus?
1) Armageddon? Why the hyperbole? I have never said that. I deal with justice and the law only.
2) Your "question" is a statement, not a question. And, when dealing with your statement, you thought wrong. Have you read the original letter from Rod Rosenstein? From the letter:
"any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
3) You are hoping to distance Trump from the investigation, but that just shows that you know Mueller is closing in. Is Trump not "associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump"?
4) AND "and matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation". Well, Mueller has found some other things. Some of those things he sent to the SDNY. New York Prosecutors are investigating the Trump Organization which is bad for Ivanka and Eric. Don Jr. was already in trouble based on Mueller's investigation, but he is in more trouble based on the Trump Organization investigation.
Knowledge is power, brother.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Very idealistic of you to think Mueller is “coming”. Trump will not be tied to ANY Russian collusion. Think about what that would have to look like. Associates interacting with a foreign government to sway an election will still not implicate Trump. To bring charges against a sitting POTUS that have tertiary evidencial basis just will not happen. Trump has ALWAYS distanced himself just enough. The SDNY is where any teeth remain.
Cohen to plead guilty to lying to Congress.
The amount of false statements and testimony is staggering at this point. I mean has any of the persons pf interest NOT lied to federal investigators?
Trump has quite a circle of liars.
But remember, Cohen actually has audio tapes of his conversations with Trump.
Plus whatever they found on his computers and Manafort's computers when they raided their homes and offices.
Then there are emails. You can delete your emails but you can't delete whatever was saved or forwarded by someone else.
And I get the feeling that Mueller has safeguarded the evidence where it can turn up if he gets taken off the investigation.
A number of things have been turned over to state officials of New York, Virginia plus the District of Columbia.
That is out of the DOJ's and the president's hands.
Congress (Nancy) can ask for that.
Thisthreadisridiculous [HardLoper] wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Most of your post is repeating yourself over and over again. ....
^ Epic HardLoper post.
XY wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) Armageddon? Why the hyperbole? I have never said that. I deal with justice and the law only.
2) Your "question" is a statement, not a question. And, when dealing with your statement, you thought wrong. Have you read the original letter from Rod Rosenstein? From the letter:
"any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
3) You are hoping to distance Trump from the investigation, but that just shows that you know Mueller is closing in. Is Trump not "associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump"?
4) AND "and matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation". Well, Mueller has found some other things. Some of those things he sent to the SDNY. New York Prosecutors are investigating the Trump Organization which is bad for Ivanka and Eric. Don Jr. was already in trouble based on Mueller's investigation, but he is in more trouble based on the Trump Organization investigation.
Knowledge is power, brother.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Very idealistic of you to think Mueller is “coming”. Trump will not be tied to ANY Russian collusion. Think about what that would have to look like. Associates interacting with a foreign government to sway an election will still not implicate Trump. To bring charges against a sitting POTUS that have tertiary evidencial basis just will not happen. Trump has ALWAYS distanced himself just enough. The SDNY is where any teeth remain.
1) We shall see.
2) I have never said charges would be brought against him while he is a sitting President, and in fact I have said I DO NOT think that will happen.
3) Mueller is responsible for sending that info to the SDNY, so that still originated from his investigation.
So, I repeat...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trump's favorite money loaning bank has been raided in money laundering investigation!
So Trump and Giulini have been saying that the prosecution of Manafort has been unfair and 'unamerican.'
Is that how Rs view the Manafort prosecution? As prosecutors run amok?
I really hope this is just Trump's weak mind after staring at the ceiling all night in his pjs. scared stiff.
XY wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) Armageddon? Why the hyperbole? I have never said that. I deal with justice and the law only.
2) Your "question" is a statement, not a question. And, when dealing with your statement, you thought wrong. Have you read the original letter from Rod Rosenstein? From the letter:
"any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
3) You are hoping to distance Trump from the investigation, but that just shows that you know Mueller is closing in. Is Trump not "associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump"?
4) AND "and matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation". Well, Mueller has found some other things. Some of those things he sent to the SDNY. New York Prosecutors are investigating the Trump Organization which is bad for Ivanka and Eric. Don Jr. was already in trouble based on Mueller's investigation, but he is in more trouble based on the Trump Organization investigation.
Knowledge is power, brother.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Very idealistic of you to think Mueller is “coming”. Trump will not be tied to ANY Russian collusion. Think about what that would have to look like. Associates interacting with a foreign government to sway an election will still not implicate Trump. To bring charges against a sitting POTUS that have tertiary evidencial basis just will not happen. Trump has ALWAYS distanced himself just enough. The SDNY is where any teeth remain.
even if you are right that 'collusion' will not be found connecting Trump to Russia, yeah, trump has 99 other problems. And women are just some of those problems,
Mueller, SDNY, NY State, angry Russian plutocrats...the problems go long and deep for our president. He wouldn't be tweeting at 4 AM otherwise.
Trump has been casting doubt on Mueller for months.
If all Mueller has is testimony from flipped sources like Manafort and Cohen then he can say they were just lying.
Even if there is a smoking gun his supporters will still support him.
At this point NO ONE is changing their opinion. He’s not magically going to bottom out at 25% approval, or even 30%.
He’s also not going to rise above the 46% that he won with, and many of those voted with their eyes closed.
At the end of the day Trump will be viewed as the most corrupt and dangerous and devisive president this country has ever seen.
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
Trump has been casting doubt on Mueller for months.
If all Mueller has is testimony from flipped sources like Manafort and Cohen then he can say they were just lying.
Even if there is a smoking gun his supporters will still support him.
At this point NO ONE is changing their opinion. He’s not magically going to bottom out at 25% approval, or even 30%.
He’s also not going to rise above the 46% that he won with, and many of those voted with their eyes closed.
At the end of the day Trump will be viewed as the most corrupt and dangerous and devisive president this country has ever seen.
Alan
mostly agree, but I suspect Mueller wouldn't make a deal with someone just to get a pointed finger and a testimony.
Mueller will want that finger showing a paper trail to investigators. Which right now, looks like Trump was involved in a deal with Russia during the campaign. The Russians do not do things on the up and up, so we can assume they were bribing, overpaying, etc. To get kompramat on Trump.
And Cohen knows how to show the paper trail.
agip wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Trump has been casting doubt on Mueller for months.
If all Mueller has is testimony from flipped sources like Manafort and Cohen then he can say they were just lying.
Even if there is a smoking gun his supporters will still support him.
At this point NO ONE is changing their opinion. He’s not magically going to bottom out at 25% approval, or even 30%.
He’s also not going to rise above the 46% that he won with, and many of those voted with their eyes closed.
At the end of the day Trump will be viewed as the most corrupt and dangerous and devisive president this country has ever seen.
Alan
mostly agree, but I suspect Mueller wouldn't make a deal with someone just to get a pointed finger and a testimony.
Mueller will want that finger showing a paper trail to investigators. Which right now, looks like Trump was involved in a deal with Russia during the campaign. The Russians do not do things on the up and up, so we can assume they were bribing, overpaying, etc. To get kompramat on Trump.
And Cohen knows how to show the paper trail.
Trump can do absolutely nothing about the raid on Deutsche Bank. It was done by German authorities. You can bet that Mueller provided them with enough intel to proceed with the raid.
if anyone is still dissing polls and Nate Silver.
rigged, I'm looking at you.
Just like their deer leader ...
Trump appeals to men who suffer from ‘fragile masculinity’