agip wrote:
How's that winning going, trumpers?
Republicans, you want to maybe push back against Trumpism now?
Senate and WH go blue in two years.
I mean if Orange County is a dem stronghold now...
https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/1063403776063741953?s=20
That just shows you how bad a candidate HRC was. And now part of our party is pushing her to run in 2020.
We need to run people like Pelosi, Schumer, HRC, Biden, etc. out. Make way for the people will make real change in this country.
It's hard, baby wrote:
That just shows you how bad a candidate HRC was. And now part of our party is pushing her to run in 2020.
We need to run people like Pelosi, Schumer, HRC, Biden, etc. out. Make way for the people will make real change in this country.
That just shows you how bad a president Trump is. And now part of our party is pushing him to run again in 2020.
We need to run people like Mitch McConnell, Nunes, Don Jr, Eric, Melania and Ivanka in. Make way for the people will make real change in this country to make it into Trumpland.
It's hard, baby wrote:
agip wrote:
How's that winning going, trumpers?
Republicans, you want to maybe push back against Trumpism now?
Senate and WH go blue in two years.
I mean if Orange County is a dem stronghold now...
https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/1063403776063741953?s=20That just shows you how bad a candidate HRC was. And now part of our party is pushing her to run in 2020.
We need to run people like Pelosi, Schumer, HRC, Biden, etc. out. Make way for the people will make real change in this country.
I disagree. The were a few far lefties elected, but the vast, vast majority of Dems elected are Obama style left centrists.
I mean, AOC was elected and...and...and...almost all the rest are moderates like the people you mentioned.
That said, the Dems need to get far, far better at elevating young blood. Obama ossified the party. I think the Dems understand this and will take steps.
CA districts 39, 45, 48 and 49 were not only red in 2016 when Trump won overall, but they were red in 2012 when Obama was re-elected.
That cluster turning blue now is a reaction to Trumpism and the new Republican party.
L L wrote:
CA districts 39, 45, 48 and 49 were not only red in 2016 when Trump won overall, but they were red in 2012 when Obama was re-elected.
That cluster turning blue now is a reaction to Trumpism and the new Republican party.
Nevada and Arizona are ahead of exceptions to turning blue forevermore. Florida will flip full on blue in another election cycle. Texas in another couple of cycles. The reason is simple. More and more democrats are moving into those states. It will be a long, lonely time for Republicans in a few years.
AZ-NV wrote:
L L wrote:
CA districts 39, 45, 48 and 49 were not only red in 2016 when Trump won overall, but they were red in 2012 when Obama was re-elected.
That cluster turning blue now is a reaction to Trumpism and the new Republican party.
Nevada and Arizona are ahead of exceptions to turning blue forevermore. Florida will flip full on blue in another election cycle. Texas in another couple of cycles. The reason is simple. More and more democrats are moving into those states. It will be a long, lonely time for Republicans in a few years.
I read an interesting piece that goes against your conclusion about Texas.
It found that the newbies to Texas were the more conservative ones. The people born in Texas were more moderate.
This was in relation to Beto vs. Cruz.
The thesis was that the newbies chose to move to Tx because they thought it was a conservative place, politically. That people are sorting themselves. Politics are the new religion, and generally people want to live with people they agree with.
Plus, beto was a once in a long time candidate - he pulled a lot of people into the ballot booth to vote blue. probably won't repeat itself.
So the Tx fade to pink and light blue might take longer than you think. The great sorting is powerful.
agip wrote:
It's hard, baby wrote:
That just shows you how bad a candidate HRC was. And now part of our party is pushing her to run in 2020.
We need to run people like Pelosi, Schumer, HRC, Biden, etc. out. Make way for the people will make real change in this country.
I disagree. The were a few far lefties elected, but the vast, vast majority of Dems elected are Obama style left centrists.
I mean, AOC was elected and...and...and...almost all the rest are moderates like the people you mentioned.
That said, the Dems need to get far, far better at elevating young blood. Obama ossified the party. I think the Dems understand this and will take steps.
You failed to understand the point.
It's hard, baby wrote:
agip wrote:
I disagree. The were a few far lefties elected, but the vast, vast majority of Dems elected are Obama style left centrists.
I mean, AOC was elected and...and...and...almost all the rest are moderates like the people you mentioned.
That said, the Dems need to get far, far better at elevating young blood. Obama ossified the party. I think the Dems understand this and will take steps.
You failed to understand the point.
the point is that most voters, and most Dem voters, DON'T want to make 'real change' in this country.
you listen to the news, the US is a hellscape of poverty, gunshot wounds and fires. In reality, the wealth is astounding.
L L wrote:
"The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don’t...
...care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They won’t even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!
Universities will someday study what highly conflicted (and NOT Senate approved) Bob Mueller and his gang of Democrat thugs have done to destroy people. Why is he protecting Crooked Hillary, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page & her lover, Peter S, and all of his friends on the other side?
The only “Collusion” is that of the Democrats with Russia and many others. Why didn’t the FBI take the Server from the DNC? They still don’t have it. Check out how biased Facebook, Google and Twitter are in favor of the Democrats. That’s the real Collusion!"
Somebody seems awfully scared of Mueller right now.
In case anyone asks - I didn't steal the cookies.
Yep. He must know some things...perhaps from Whitaker who is definitely a spy for the White House if nothing else.
Trollminator wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
It matters who's money it was. A felony? Sort of like the 2008 Obama campaign's hiding Wall Street donations? Nobody went to jail for that.
Typical whataboutisms... 1) attempts at drawing equivalence between Trump the king shady businessman and any democratic politician fail miserably every time - he is the corruption king: nepotism; treasonous administration; filling the swamp; hidden payments to porn star; helping Russian oligarchs launder money; manipulating markets - all just appetizers. 2) nothing that any other person on this planet does or has done is going to absolve Trump. You fail
CORRECT! He doesn't understand the difference between a felony vs. a non-felony campaign finance violation either.
agip wrote:
It's hard, baby wrote:
You failed to understand the point.
the point is that most voters, and most Dem voters, DON'T want to make 'real change' in this country.
you listen to the news, the US is a hellscape of poverty, gunshot wounds and fires. In reality, the wealth is astounding.
You are CORRECT!
L L wrote:
"Universities will someday study what highly conflicted (and NOT Senate approved) Bob Mueller and his gang of Democrat thugs have done to destroy people. "
Somebody seems awfully scared of Mueller right now.
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Yes. He is going at him hard and not letting facts get in his way. Bob Mueller is a republican, he was George W. Bush's appointee as head of the FBI and the senate unanimously approved him. He stayed his full 10 year term, and then Obama asked him to stay another 2 years, which again was unanimously approved by senate (in 2011). Bob Mueller has only received unanimous support by the senate. Then, it was Trump's appointed deputy attorney general who appointed the republican Bob Mueller to oversee the investigation. Democrats had nothing to do with this appointment. The investigation has been nothing but successful, initiating criminal proceedings against 33 people. Remarkable.
Yet you have Trump and his band of fake news zealot fools who will believe any lie he tells - so he lies and he lies and he lies some more. In the world of Trump believers Mueller is suddenly a puppet for the democrats. They actually believe that, despite every single fact about him proves the exact opposite.
Trump and every single one of his supported lose all credibility (if they had any) every time they bash Mueller, who is a die hard respected republican.
Oh, hey Trump and your fans - you want to know who's the better man? Just compare their military records. Trump's Vietnam was avoiding: (1) STD's and; (2) being drafted, Mueller's Vietnam was actually serving in Vietnam and: (1) a bronze star; and (2) a purple heart. No actual republican with any self respect would pick Trump over a man like Mueller.
L L wrote:
CA districts 39, 45, 48 and 49 were not only red in 2016 when Trump won overall, but they were red in 2012 when Obama was re-elected.
That cluster turning blue now is a reaction to Trumpism and the new Republican party.
Those districts are way too close to our Southern border. You have to examine closely if all the voters were indeed eligible to vote there. But you cannot trust the integrity of voting when it is administered by the Democratic governor and the Secretary of State.
Going to take back something I said...
...After the 2018 election, I said it was not a Blue Wave. Now, with more information, I say that yep, it was.
Just too many flipped seats from House to State seats to governors, and many of those in traditionally very red areas. Republicans did the minimum in the Senate in what was the worst map for Democrats in 100 years.
So, do with that what you will. I will not argue about whether it was a Blue Wave or not. I have made the determination, and it is what I say it is.
Trump loses again...
Make America Great Again wrote:
L L wrote:
CA districts 39, 45, 48 and 49 were not only red in 2016 when Trump won overall, but they were red in 2012 when Obama was re-elected.
That cluster turning blue now is a reaction to Trumpism and the new Republican party.
Those districts are way too close to our Southern border. You have to examine closely if all the voters were indeed eligible to vote there. But you cannot trust the integrity of voting when it is administered by the Democratic governor and the Secretary of State.
Good one, Lying Gary! Have me rolling on the floor with that one. Good job!
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Lying Gary
Tired of all that winning, Trumpettes?
I’ll see you guys after the new year. I’m heading to Kauai and Fiji til then.
Enjoy the bickering.
CNN wrote:
Tired of all that winning, Trumpettes?
It looks like tRump is setting up Pence to be fired. tRump knows that Pence is not sufficiently loyal to him. The amount of groveling is not at the level tRump demands.
Is Mike Pence loyal? … Mr. Trump has repeated the question so many times that he has alarmed some of his advisers. The president has not [yet] openly suggested dropping Mr. Pence from the ticket and picking another running mate, but the advisers say those kinds of questions usually indicate that he has grown irritated with someone.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/politics/mike-pence-trump-administration.htmlI doubt Trump will be on the ballot in November 2020.
Better chance of Pence being on it with someone else.