Hmmmmmm wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Then you have committed a sin.
But that will be forgiven, right?
Why is the Jesus of the Old Testament so mean?
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Then you have committed a sin.
But that will be forgiven, right?
Why is the Jesus of the Old Testament so mean?
Hi Trollminator wrote:
Your try wrote:
You haven't provided anything of value. That was you best 'try'.
Hi Trollminator
Try again
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
The three are one.
Burt where does the holy spirit fit in? Another son? Father?
It's neither. The Holy Spirit, (or "Paraclete" in Greek) is more of a guide. It's a distinct person of the trinity. You can think of it as God's presence.
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Then you have committed a sin.
But that will be forgiven, right?
Any sin can be forgiven.
Fat hurts wrote:
Hmmmmmm wrote:
But that will be forgiven, right?
Any sin can be forgiven.
Good.
Are you trying to convert me right now?
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Any sin can be forgiven.
Good.
Are you trying to convert me right now?
Are you thinking of becoming a Christian?
L L wrote:
They'd need 18-20 Senate Republicans (out of 51-53) to have integrity to convict Trump.
Can Romney find 19 cohorts to do this?
Rubio would be on board if there was momentum.
Would Cruz do it if it came down to him?
Is there any reason to have loyalty to Trump.
He would never be loyal to anyone else.
Unlike other politicians, President Trump is not loyal to special interests and big donors.
He is loyal to the forgotten men and women of America.
Any member of the Congress who does not show loyalty to our People's President is against the forgotten men and women.
Fat hurts wrote:
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Good.
Are you trying to convert me right now?
Are you thinking of becoming a Christian?
Does that matter?
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Are you thinking of becoming a Christian?
Does that matter?
Why do Christians not like gay people?
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Hmmmmmm wrote:
But that will be forgiven, right?
Why is the Jesus of the Old Testament so mean?
Why is the Jesus of the Old Testament so mean?
Obstruction wrote:
Once the House goes to the Dems and blocks Trump policies, the economy will take a downturn.
Feel free to reference this post when it happens.
The economy is bound to take a downturn, though this may or may not happen during the Trump presidency. I suspect it will happen during this four-year term, but I could be wrong; in any case, I doubt it would happen before late 2019, at the very earliest.
Whether the House will have *caused* the downturn is a separate question. (They've been known to do some dumb stuff, though.) But if the economy takes that downturn while Mr. Trump is still president, I have absolutely no doubt that he will *blame* the House.
I have that confidence because he's *already* blamed Congress for his failure to follow through on multiple campaign promises, even though the GOP has majorities in both houses. Blaming a DEM-majority House for anything/everything that goes wrong after 1/19? That's a no-brainer.
HI Flagpole wrote:
Bob Dylan wrote:
INCORRECT! (as usual)
You most certainly would not have posted that without being forced to by my post. So, if it makes no difference to anyone else, you yourself have PROVEN that it made a difference to you.
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PS - The correct spelling of "to" is "to" (not "go").
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PPS - You are also too stupid to get it.
Hi Flagpole
Nope. Not me. If I were going to use the name of a singer, I would likely use the name of a singer with a power and range similar to my own, like Steve Perry.
WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF I AM THE SAME POSTER AS BOB DYLAN, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Are you thinking of becoming a Christian?
Does that matter?
I'm not sure what you mean.
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Does that matter?
Why do Christians not like gay people?
Christians love all people.
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Hmmmmmm wrote:
Why is the Jesus of the Old Testament so mean?
Why is the Jesus of the Old Testament so mean?
He's not. But I think we've already covered that.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
First of all, I will start this off by saying I have nothing against anyone who is religious. I don't believe they are stupid or anything like that. Although a lot of bad things have been done in the name of religion, I firmly do believe more good has been done in the name of religion.
Honesty, and I do NOT mean this to be demeaning to you or believers, but I stopped believing in God about the time I stopped believing in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. I kidded myself for years, all the way into adulthood that I was a Christian because I did believe, and do still believe, that the example set by Jesus is a good one, but in reality, when you don't believe in God, really only an extremely liberal church like a UCC (United Church of Christ) would consider me a Christian.
So that was when. The why is that I just don't buy and never did all the "magical" things. I wanted to just accept them as stories, but too many Christians insist the stories are factual, like...Virgin Mary, Noah's ark, walking on water, omnipotent God who lives in the heavens, and on and on and on. Not believable. Christians answer that that is where "faith" lies. Well, why have faith in those stories? Just because some men wrote stories more than 2000 years ago that are placed in The Bible, a book that has been changed a lot over time including additions and subtractions?
Why do people believe in God? Because those who raised them taught them there was a God. There is no evidence to support that God exists. Again, if the world began all over again beginning tomorrow and humans eventually evolved again, they would discover math and scientific laws, but their language and religions would be different.
The infancy of religion was due to two main things:
1) A way for people to explain things they didn't understand (locust population explosions, massive floods, plagues, etc.).
2) Government keeping the peasants in check.
I support people who are better people because of religion (people who do good works). I do NOT support people who behave AS THEY SHOULD because they are afraid to go to hell if they don't. I support people who are drawn together as a community due to their local church. I do not support people (who say they are Christians) who decide they will judge others' behavior when "vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord".
So, that's the detail in why I don't believe that God exists. My short answer would have been, "It's nonsense".
I view God like I view most professional sports teams. There are people who are fans of both, and while I am not a fan of either (except the Cincinnati Reds), I do not have a problem with people who are fans of either.
Do you acknowledge that it is possible that God exists?
It is possible that monkeys might fly out of my butt. Do you acknowledge that God might NOT exist?
When looking at unknowns like the beginning of the universe and then what is beyond the universe, it is extremely unlikely that a God, something we can wrap our brains around because we took His form, is the creator of that.
It is no more likely that God exists than it is that David Koresh was God or that Donald Trump is a good person or, as I already said, that monkeys might fly out of my butt. So, to answer your question, YES it is possible, but it is also possible any God that knows our thoughts and everything about everything is really a marmoset in Paraguay.
Don't you forget about me wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Some supreme being or essence??? No it’s not possible. Even if you want to ponder pre Big Bang it is not possible - we’d be asking who made that god and the one who made him/her in a never ending loop. It is very difficult to accept that we cannot comprehend or visualize the basic fabric of the universe so we cling to God as an explanation. Now if you are referring to some yet unexplained factor (or factors) in physics that may answer more questions about the universe then sure I buy that - but it is not possible that it is a “being”.
You have a very simple mind.
I see what you did there. I disagree that it should apply to Trollminator, but you get props for the application.
Racket wrote:
Let's also discus(s) our views on abortion.
Ha! Good job.
Fat hurts wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Some supreme being or essence??? No it’s not possible. Even if you want to ponder pre Big Bang it is not possible - we’d be asking who made that god and the one who made him/her in a never ending loop. It is very difficult to accept that we cannot comprehend or visualize the basic fabric of the universe so we cling to God as an explanation. Now if you are referring to some yet unexplained factor (or factors) in physics that may answer more questions about the universe then sure I buy that - but it is not possible that it is a “being”.
A theologian would say that you just went a long way toward proving God's existence. God is the infinitely supreme being. Surely, you wouldn't argue that infinity doesn't exist? If there is no infinity then modern mathematics collapses.
Unless you can define what an infinitely supreme being is/does instead of relying on “I just feel/believe” then all I can assume is you have no idea what you are talking about. No offense meant at all - but for this topic to have any real meat to discuss there has to be a starting point, a tangible subject... give me something more than infinitely supreme being.
Full disclosure: The basis for my belief in no supreme “being” is that science has already proven that we are all instinctively fond of fairy tales and use them to comfort our insecurities. That and modern physics are more than enough for me to fully reject the notion of any god existing, especially in all the ways god has been defined by different religions. I still believe in yet to be explained supernatural forces, and that’s the closest I can get to the notion of God... but even that is just a physics footnote. I wholly reject any connection between that and morality or justice or any man-created principles. Nothing necessarily awful about that, but it is all in our human heads.
Flagpole wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Do you acknowledge that it is possible that God exists?
It is possible that monkeys might fly out of my butt. Do you acknowledge that God might NOT exist?
When looking at unknowns like the beginning of the universe and then what is beyond the universe, it is extremely unlikely that a God, something we can wrap our brains around because we took His form, is the creator of that.
It is no more likely that God exists than it is that David Koresh was God or that Donald Trump is a good person or, as I already said, that monkeys might fly out of my butt. So, to answer your question, YES it is possible, but it is also possible any God that knows our thoughts and everything about everything is really a marmoset in Paraguay.
No, I don't acknowledge that God might not exist. I find it to be 100% likely that he does exist.