ok so you are 100% fine with states having 100% full COVID vaccination mandates? No problem with that? Not tyranny? Just seems odd that your view is that to support a state mandate is fine and legal but to support a fed COVID mandate is Stalinist.
Is that your stance?
I would not like a state-wide vaccine mandate for a relatively ineffective vaccine, but that is clearly not as bad because I can move to Florida a lot more easily than I can emigrate the country. And because, and this is also important, such a mandate at least would not VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION THAT WE THE PEOPLE RATIFIED AND THAT THE PRESIDENT SWORE AN OATH TO UPHOLD. It seems more odd to me that you think the president can unilaterally declare everyone take an uproven pharmaceutical. Is there any executive overreach by your guy that you WOULDN'T defend?
ok so you are 100% fine with states having 100% full COVID vaccination mandates? No problem with that? Not tyranny? Just seems odd that your view is that to support a fed COVID mandate is Stalinist, but to support a state mandate is a nothingburger.
Is that your stance?
Yes. That is his stance. And if you do some more research, Russians were A-OK with Stalin's authoritarian dictates if they came from Russian states instead of the Soviet Union as a whole. Big difference.
Seriously, right wingers get caught in their own lies. They try to frame vaccine push efforts to fight covid as some type of new thing that started with covid. Then when they get called out on that BS, they pivot with excuses about the fact it was "Federal" and that makes it super, duper, entirely different. It's all just BS because Govt efforts to squash a pandemic are nothing new. They just want you to believe there was enormous overreach.
Holy crap you are so ignorant of history it is embarassing. Next time better to remain silent and be thought a food than type out a post and remove all doubt.
Yes. That is his stance. And if you do some more research, Russians were A-OK with Stalin's authoritarian dictates if they came from Russian states instead of the Soviet Union as a whole. Big difference.
Seriously, right wingers get caught in their own lies. They try to frame vaccine push efforts to fight covid as some type of new thing that started with covid. Then when they get called out on that BS, they pivot with excuses about the fact it was "Federal" and that makes it super, duper, entirely different. It's all just BS because Govt efforts to squash a pandemic are nothing new. They just want you to believe there was enormous overreach.
Holy crap you are so ignorant of history it is embarassing. Next time better to remain silent and be thought a food than type out a post and remove all doubt.
If you are going to think of me as a food, I prefer Zucchini
I guess this is revealing. You liberals actually think the federal government should have the same power as local governments. Heck you'd probably be fine with the "enlightened" folks at the UN or Davos having more power over us too. You're either stunningly ignorant or have an actual desire for tyranny.
This country has lost all sense of its Judeo-Christian upbringing. Trump could never be charged under normal Judeo-Christian law. It's only under liberal activist law that these bogacities can be entrenched.
I guess this is revealing. You liberals actually think the federal government should have the same power as local governments. Heck you'd probably be fine with the "enlightened" folks at the UN or Davos having more power over us too. You're either stunningly ignorant or have an actual desire for tyranny.
No you idiot. It is much simpler.
We have moved on from Covid and we recognize it was a hectic time for the country where lives were trying to be saved. That’s all. It was not the slippery slope into Stalinism you dopes believe it was.
I earn peanuts, have 4 young children with my wife, got benefit top ups, hobbyjog 10 minute miles with my local group and go on cheap all inclusive holidays to benidorm and get pished. I'm happy with my lot and wouldn't want a complicated stressed filled life.
With Trumps felony indictments, investigations and convictions piling up, it can be challenging to monitor the progress of all of it. Overwhelming criminality you might say. Too many cases and people.
Do you think a free iOS Android app with flow charts, crime web diagrams of coconspirators, elections schemes and trial updates would “sell”?
A better question would be: Are right wingers OK with Biden right now doing exactly what he promised he will do if elected.
Neuter all agencies that can check his power
Start handing out retribution towards political foes
Firing all that are perceived disloyal in favor of "loyalists"
Suspending the constitution in any instance that it gets in the way.
Pardoning himself immediately and shutting down all investigations into himself and his helpers.
Gaming the system to remain in power perpetually
IT would be helpful if right wingers would just come out and say it. I am OK with a Putinesque type dictatorship in the US as long as it is Trump. Stop with the pretending.
"He" being Donald Trump.
It's hilarious that you had to specify that. Like you read the list and thought "oh sh!t, some of this stuff could have been written about Biden."
I guess this is revealing. You liberals actually think the federal government should have the same power as local governments. Heck you'd probably be fine with the "enlightened" folks at the UN or Davos having more power over us too. You're either stunningly ignorant or have an actual desire for tyranny.
No you idiot. It is much simpler.
We have moved on from Covid and we recognize it was a hectic time for the country where lives were trying to be saved. That’s all. It was not the slippery slope into Stalinism you dopes believe it was.
get it?
Oh yeah. Because you can dispense with the constitution as long as you believe it's like a really "hectic time." The Hectic Time clause in Article II.
listen up, stupids: Donald Trump and his klansman father tried to prevent black people from renting apartments in their buildings. they got caught. Donald Trump tried to scam students at his fake university. he got caught. Donald Trump tried to cheat on his taxes. he got caught. Donald Trump tried to steal money from a children's charity. he got caught. Donald Trump tried to cover up hush money payments to a porn actress. he got caught. Donald Trump stole classified war plans and stashed them in the sh!tter of his tacky golf motel. he got caught. and now Donald Trump got caught trying to do an insurrection. my question to you is: aren't you tired of worshiping such an inept bozo of a criminal
FYI, Trump Steaks are quite insulted that they didn't make the list. Hugely.
I actually heard someone say in the E Jean Carroll case that it was a victory because Trump was found liable for sexual assault and not rape.
That is NOT something to celebrate, ok!
Trump has trained his followers well. Any legal outcome for him means "total exoneration". He taught them this and while the rest of the world laughs, Trumpers believe.
Unfortunately, of course:
"Laughers" get 1 vote.
Believers get 1 vote.
Reminding us that there IS, actually, an argument to be made against democracy! (but the adjudication of voters/no-voters could be a bit difficult....even if largely pretty obvious)
listen up, stupids: Donald Trump and his klansman father tried to prevent black people from renting apartments in their buildings. they got caught. Donald Trump tried to scam students at his fake university. he got caught. Donald Trump tried to cheat on his taxes. he got caught. Donald Trump tried to steal money from a children's charity. he got caught. Donald Trump tried to cover up hush money payments to a porn actress. he got caught. Donald Trump stole classified war plans and stashed them in the sh!tter of his tacky golf motel. he got caught. and now Donald Trump got caught trying to do an insurrection. my question to you is: aren't you tired of worshiping such an inept bozo of a criminal
FYI, Trump Steaks are quite insulted that they didn't make the list. Hugely.
Question: Did Trump U. have a law school? (of course, it should have). It would appear that some of the constitutional law experts on this thread might have attended (the better the grades, the worse the outcome!)
We have moved on from Covid and we recognize it was a hectic time for the country where lives were trying to be saved. That’s all. It was not the slippery slope into Stalinism you dopes believe it was.
get it?
Oh yeah. Because you can dispense with the constitution as long as you believe it's like a really "hectic time." The Hectic Time clause in Article II.
the point is that you are being disingenuous.
There is no material difference in civic life between the governor of CA ordering a vaccine mandate and the president of the United States ordering a vaccine mandate.
The effect is the same: government ordering mandated injections in order to save hundreds of thousands or millions of lives. Saying one is stalinist and the other merely distasteful is disingenous or just plain stupid.
You are standing on a tiny piece of land, holding a thin reed and screaming fed vs state! When it is transparent that you are doing that only to defend the indefensible: the right wing campaign against the COVID vaccine, that no exaggeration killed tens of thousands of Americans or even hundreds of thousands for no good reason.
The vaccine was effective and safe and prevented a massive number of deaths. Your implying it wasn't effective and safe is another example of you being disingenuous.
But sure, legally there is a difference between state and federal law. We all know that.
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FYI, Trump Steaks are quite insulted that they didn't make the list. Hugely.
Question: Did Trump U. have a law school? (of course, it should have). It would appear that some of the constitutional law experts on this thread might have attended (the better the grades, the worse the outcome!)
Trump will be a case study of the overwhelming stupidity of the US citizens for many decades. Trump essentially tried dozens of ways to corruptly scheme money from people through deceit and criminal activity over 50 years of his life. And how did the American people respond to this lifelong conduct? They voted him into the highest office of the land.
And after witnessing corrupt conduct they are rewarding him again by being the leader of the Republican party. No other candidates can make any ground because his followers "trust him as a straight shooter".
Big one today! This is huge and suggests indictments for big league trumpists across the country for the fake electors scheme.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has just announced felony charges against 16 Michigan residents "for their role in the alleged false electors scheme following the 2020 U.S. presidential election."
Each defendant has been charged with: • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony • Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felon • One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony • Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony
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Big one today! This is huge and suggests indictments for big league trumpists across the country for the fake electors scheme.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has just announced felony charges against 16 Michigan residents "for their role in the alleged false electors scheme following the 2020 U.S. presidential election."
Each defendant has been charged with: • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony • Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felon • One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony • Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony
Voting has been weaponized against Judeo-Christian votes and their ilk.