Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Pointing Out the REALLY Obvious wrote:

Danny Democrat wrote:

Whether they qualify as serious, we shall see...

Kasich is going to New Hampshire on November 15. Wonder why?

There is a 5000 match race set up on my local track next week. Mo Farah vs me (recent 5k best of 31:17). Whether or not I qualify as a serious challenge to Mo, we shall see.

I will be on the track on Saturday. Wonder why?

Your made up story notwithstanding...

Expect multiple Republicans to test the waters in New Hampshire and Iowa. They'll probably quietly tour and fundraise and hang back, waiting to see what happens with the Mueller investigation, and how much Trump falls apart in 2019 with the Dems taking the house.

If they sense weakness, they will challenge him. If the economy turns, particularly. At the moment, Trump's lost popularity in key early states like Iowa, where soy and pork farmers are taking in on the chin. His approval rating is down 20 points since taking office. If the trade war continues, the more moderate midwest/farm Republicans in his base will leave him. He's going to keep the 20% white nationalist vote no matter what, but moderates like myself will flip to the Republican primary just to vote against him, should we be given the chance to do so.

agip wrote:

The Statute of Limitations wrote:

There is no statute of limitations for intentional tax cheating.

sorta

my understanding is that there is statute of limitations on criminal charges for tax fraud

but

there is no statute of limitations for civil tax charges.

No freaking way there will be an impeachment for civil tax charges.

In many jurisdictions the statute of limitations does begins to run on the last act of evasion.

tRump SCREAMED (Tweeted) at Florida election officials to ignore the state’s legal recount procedures, and declare Republican candidates for the Senate and Governor positions as the winners. An Executive Order should be all tRump needs to get his way.

The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere, and many ballots are missing or forged. An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2018

Moran tRump wrote:

tRump SCREAMED (Tweeted) at Florida election officials to ignore the state’s legal recount procedures, and declare Republican candidates for the Senate and Governor positions as the winners.

An Executive Order should be all tRump needs to get his way.

The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere, and many ballots are missing or forged. An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2018

Meanwhile, the GOP is demanding a recount in Arizona to make sure all the votes are counted.

Alleging unsubstantiated voter fraud by the president is a serious abuse of power.

Things to look forward to.

Michael Flynn to be sentences\d Dec 18

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/19/michael-flynn-sentencing-mueller-830724

Flynn has cooperated and has seemingly exchanged information on Trump in exchange for a lighter sentence.

Manafort still working with Mueller before his sentencing.

https://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-stalling-cooperation-with-mueller-trump-russia-matthew-whitaker-2018-11

And Michael Cohen will be singing against Trump

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/9/18079754/trump-cohen-hush-money-mcdougal-stormy-daniels

Trump's orange makeup is not rain approved!

"The White House confirmed that Trump will not visit Arlington National Cemetery on Veteran’s Day as rain is expected."

A lid at 10 AM. Trump will have no movements today, per White House.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) November 12, 2018

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1061999063120429056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

We have to assume that all these high up trumpers would not get deals from Mueller unless they had valuable info on either the president or his family. There is no one else higher than those guys.

Unless Mueller felt information, rather than justice, was the main goal. Then he might make deals just to make sure he gets all the information possible about Russian involvement in the 2016 election.

L L wrote:

Manafort still working with Mueller before his sentencing.

https://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-stalling-cooperation-with-mueller-trump-russia-matthew-whitaker-2018-11

The linked article suggests that Manafort hasn't been all that forthcoming and that he's become less so since Jeff Sessions was fired. It kind of looks like he's hedging his bets on a pardon.

Cohen on the other hand appears to have flipped hard based on his public statements.

agip wrote:

We have to assume that all these high up trumpers would not get deals from Mueller unless they had valuable info on either the president or his family. There is no one else higher than those guys.

Unless Mueller felt information, rather than justice, was the main goal. Then he might make deals just to make sure he gets all the information possible about Russian involvement in the 2016 election.

I think it's more information which may be damaging or may not be and also may not rise to the level of a crime or serious crime. The info could involve lesser players in the administration as well. Those leaning towards the Democrats, I think, assume there will be conclusive damaging information regarding the POTUS. I do not make that assumption. At this point, I think we will get a report with some nebulous info in which each side will be able to state a case which will appeal to their constituents leaving us exactly right where we are today.

What is more likely, in my opinion, is that there will be damaging information and possible criminal and potentially serious criminal activity vs. administration officials and hangers on such as Roger Stone, Trump Jr. and Kushner. How that affects the POTUS could play into things but will have little effect on voters.

With the House moving to the left, I think the possibility of release of information including potentially Trump's tax returns could be much more damaging than anything we see from Mueller.

I'm interested on how history is going to look back at this period of time.

The school books will know the end result of Trump's actions and show all of the information that Congress and the public knew during his time in office and how nothing was done about it.

You read and watch "All the President's Men" and are shocked at how little it took for Nixon to resign compared to what is out there on Trump.

Or how little it took to impeach Clinton but even Trump's detractors fear the political consequence of impeaching Trump.

Oh look, an innocent, not yet accepting of the real world.

How adorable!

Monkeys typing wrote:

L L wrote:

Manafort still working with Mueller before his sentencing.

https://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-stalling-cooperation-with-mueller-trump-russia-matthew-whitaker-2018-11

The linked article suggests that Manafort hasn't been all that forthcoming and that he's become less so since Jeff Sessions was fired. It kind of looks like he's hedging his bets on a pardon.

Cohen on the other hand appears to have flipped hard based on his public statements.

Manafort: Supposedly Manafort's plea deal is 'pardon-proof' meaning the states have reserved some charges in case trump pardons Manafort.

cohen: this is all finance related, obviously. all the frauds you can imagine, trump did them, and cohen can paint a pretty good road map. This is the heat on trump. I mean even his supporters admit he is a financial criminal - they just say 'everyone does it' or 'can't indict a sitting president'

Several things:

1) Going through the impeachment process makes it front-page news that our President is being rebuked by the House AND for what reasons. Not everyone follows the news like some of us here do, and this helps get them the information.

2) Going through the impeachment process gives the Senators a chance to see the reaction not only of Americans in general but their constituents once he is impeached by the House.

3) It can not be assumed that at leas 67 Senators will have the same opinion before the House impeaches as after. You can't just look at what happen with Clinton. There is a BIG deal between what he did and what Trump has done, and the impeachment process will spell that out.

4) President Trump is a criminal and needs to be stopped. Impeachment is the tool that we have politically to stop him as soon as possible. If history shows all the bad things he did and yet the House didn't even begin the impeachment process, that makes it sound like we are all ok with this.

5) The House impeaching him, assuming the Mueller report contains impeachment-worthy material (it WILL), is the correct thing to do.

Monkeys typing wrote:

The linked article suggests that Manafort hasn't been all that forthcoming and that he's become less so since Jeff Sessions was fired. It kind of looks like he's hedging his bets on a pardon.

Cohen on the other hand appears to have flipped hard based on his public statements.

Cohen's situation is at the state level and he can't be pardoned.

Manafort's hoping that Whitaker shuts down the investigation even if it is via de-funding. A pardon could then certainly be in play. Not sure if his guilty plea would block a potential pardon however.

L L wrote:

The impeachment process is pointless if you don’t have the votes for removal?

If he’s done crimes, he has to be tried for them.

If the Republicans vote for acquittal simply because they are the same party and his guilt is obvious to the public, they will pay a political price.

What you are saying is that he has a free pass to break laws and act unethically just because they aren’t 67 Democrats in the senate.

Yes...this is the correct response to all of this.

We have to let future Dictator wannabes in this country know that we will not just sit idly by.

I'll certainly agree that if the Mueller report contains impeachment-worthy material then the correct thing to do is impeachment in the house.

I'm sort of going mushy on all this, agreed.

I'd just urge the Dems not to do their regular 'take it to 11' sort of freakout - that drives many Americans away. Like the Kav hearings and all the transgender stuff.