Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Random thoughts:

1) The Trumper fools (here and elsewhere) who are relying on inflation to be a selling point for them in the 2024 election really need to regroup. It's down to 3% now and still with momentum to fall further. Non issue. Biden even has the perfect answer..."I got the Inflation Reduction Act passed, and inflation fell every month for over a year, and now we're back to historic norms." All of that is true even if the Inflation Reduction Act had nothing to do with the falling inflation rate.

2) I have changed my opinion about one thing, so I will declare it here. I had long agreed with people who said that the best thing for Democrats would be for Trump to be the nominee again for the GOP. I agreed that that was likely true but at the same time still didn't want him to be the nominee simply because I didn't want to risk ANY chance that he could catch lightning in a bottle a second time. I now believe that any of the current crop of GOP candidates would fare worse than Trump in a general election against Biden. I still believe Trump won't win and can't win under normal circumstances (Biden would have to die a few days before election day or something nuts like that), but I do now believe Trump has a better chance to win for the GOP than any other candidate. This change is due to the realization that members of the GOP are so unbelieveably stupid and insane. I knew you were all stupid and insane, but the level of both has been proven to be higher than even I thought.

3) Chris Christie is a smart reasonable person. I don't agree with him on most policy issues, but he wouldn't be the worst President ever. He can never get elected though because he's too fat. Trump is also obese, but Christie is even more obese. GOP voters are out of their minds for not considering a person like Christie. Christie, Sununu, Hogan, Kasich...all would be reasonable people to bring sanity back to the party. But NOOOOOOOO...gotta keep worshipping the most criminal sinful man ever to be President of the United States.

4) Oh...and Trump has been indicted twice now. Ha! Ha! Ha! You Trumpers are f*cking morons.

Trump was impeached twice and was found not-guilty twice. He was vindicated. He has been indicted twice and will be found not guilty again. Perhaps call him the Teflon Don but no charges ever stick with him. Maybe because he never did anything wrong? Remember Richard Jewell? People were positive that he was guilty. What happened - oh, he was ultimately cleared of all charges. So too will Donald Trump. You don't have to like Donald Trump but respect the law. He is innocent until he is found guilty.

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Trump was impeached twice and was found not-guilty twice. He was vindicated. He has been indicted twice and will be found not guilty again. Perhaps call him the Teflon Don but no charges ever stick with him. Maybe because he never did anything wrong? Remember Richard Jewell? People were positive that he was guilty. What happened - oh, he was ultimately cleared of all charges. So too will Donald Trump. You don't have to like Donald Trump but respect the law. He is innocent until he is found guilty.

Sally, Sally, Sally,

I know that a few people here like to say you are a troll. I know better. Mostly you're just dumb as a bag of hammers, but you DO throw in a troll post once in a great while to make some people think you are always a troll. You do that to try to deflect away from the fact that you are so outrageously stupid. That method works on some people. Again, I know better.

You flew too close to the sun on this one though, brother. Jewell was cleared because not only was he innocent, but there was no evidence that he did anything wrong...completely opposite of the situation with Trump. There are no assumptions here. There is no guessing here. Trump has already said he took and kept the documents. Anyway, I WILL believe that you MUST be trolling here, because as stupid as you are, I refuse to believe that you are THAT stupid. Now, I've been proven wrong before about how stupid others can be, so I could be wrong.

Regardless of whether you are trolling on this particular thing, you still need to pull your head out of your ass, so give it a try.

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Sally, Sally, Sally,

I know that a few people here like to say you are a troll. I know better. Mostly you're just dumb as a bag of hammers, but you DO throw in a troll post once in a great while to make some people think you are always a troll. You do that to try to deflect away from the fact that you are so outrageously stupid. That method works on some people. Again, I know better.

You flew too close to the sun on this one though, brother. Jewell was cleared because not only was he innocent, but there was no evidence that he did anything wrong...completely opposite of the situation with Trump. There are no assumptions here. There is no guessing here. Trump has already said he took and kept the documents. Anyway, I WILL believe that you MUST be trolling here, because as stupid as you are, I refuse to believe that you are THAT stupid. Now, I've been proven wrong before about how stupid others can be, so I could be wrong.

Regardless of whether you are trolling on this particular thing, you still need to pull your head out of your ass, so give it a try.

How can you say there are no "assumptions/presumptions" here? Are you not familiar with the Constitution? It sounds like you have not even read it.

"The presumption of innocence is a legal principle that every person accused of any crime is considered innocent until proven guilty."

Just because you hate someone with a vengeance doesn't mean you can dismiss the presumption of innocence. I know you were a journalism student and not a constitutional law person. So I will go easy on you. But read the Constitution some time! You will understand the basic laws that the US government provides to its citizens.

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

...with no evidence whatsoever - the old "can indict a ham sandwich."

That's what wishful thinkers say when someone has been indicted that they don't want to be indicted. The conviction rate on the Federal level is outrageously high. What we know publicly about the documents case especially is outrageously damning. Yes, he deserves his day in court, but it is also CORRECT to know that he WILL be found guilty.

Really, the only unknown is what happens once he is found guilty. His freedom will be taken away, but it is unclear where. A general population prison is not likely. There are prison facilities in this country where they house snitches and others who would be killed almost instantly if they were in the general population, and I submit that Trump could serve time there. House arrest would also be a possibility. Hell, someone could build an 8x10 single cell with a working toilet in an afternoon. Plop that in Area 51 or some other such government facility and let him serve the time there.

Of course, if a Republican is elected President this next time, then Trump will receive a pardon. That's BS that a President (ANY President) has that power.

But, rest assured, Trump will be found guilty on at least one of the indictments, and likely more than one with a very likely total of at least 4 indictments...more if Smith indicts him in other areas of the country (which is deserved).

When a ham sandwich is indicted, get back to me. Trump did the crimes. He should do the time.

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

That's what wishful thinkers say when someone has been indicted that they don't want to be indicted. The conviction rate on the Federal level is outrageously high. What we know publicly about the documents case especially is outrageously damning. Yes, he deserves his day in court, but it is also CORRECT to know that he WILL be found guilty.

Really, the only unknown is what happens once he is found guilty. His freedom will be taken away, but it is unclear where. A general population prison is not likely. There are prison facilities in this country where they house snitches and others who would be killed almost instantly if they were in the general population, and I submit that Trump could serve time there. House arrest would also be a possibility. Hell, someone could build an 8x10 single cell with a working toilet in an afternoon. Plop that in Area 51 or some other such government facility and let him serve the time there.

Of course, if a Republican is elected President this next time, then Trump will receive a pardon. That's BS that a President (ANY President) has that power.

But, rest assured, Trump will be found guilty on at least one of the indictments, and likely more than one with a very likely total of at least 4 indictments...more if Smith indicts him in other areas of the country (which is deserved).

When a ham sandwich is indicted, get back to me. Trump did the crimes. He should do the time.

"Yes, he deserves his day in court, but it is also CORRECT to know that he WILL be found guilty."

Seriously, you have already pronounced him guilty?!? Read the 5th, 6th and 14th Amendments and also Coffin v. United States (1895) and get back to me!

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

That's what wishful thinkers say when someone has been indicted that they don't want to be indicted. The conviction rate on the Federal level is outrageously high. What we know publicly about the documents case especially is outrageously damning. Yes, he deserves his day in court, but it is also CORRECT to know that he WILL be found guilty.

Really, the only unknown is what happens once he is found guilty. His freedom will be taken away, but it is unclear where. A general population prison is not likely. There are prison facilities in this country where they house snitches and others who would be killed almost instantly if they were in the general population, and I submit that Trump could serve time there. House arrest would also be a possibility. Hell, someone could build an 8x10 single cell with a working toilet in an afternoon. Plop that in Area 51 or some other such government facility and let him serve the time there.

Of course, if a Republican is elected President this next time, then Trump will receive a pardon. That's BS that a President (ANY President) has that power.

But, rest assured, Trump will be found guilty on at least one of the indictments, and likely more than one with a very likely total of at least 4 indictments...more if Smith indicts him in other areas of the country (which is deserved).

When a ham sandwich is indicted, get back to me. Trump did the crimes. He should do the time.

"Yes, he deserves his day in court, but it is also CORRECT to know that he WILL be found guilty."

Seriously, you have already pronounced him guilty?!? Read the 5th, 6th and 14th Amendments and also Coffin v. United States (1895) and get back to me!