Robert Young fakes run across America

This is what was nicely summed up. 10/10

I'm behind a couple of pages so friggin hard to keep up.

If Robert wants to come clean, he will need someone to blame. And that will be his crew. He can make up a great story about how his "friends" as well as SKINS, exploited him and lied for him about the rules for breaking the record. Adding to that he can claim that his "friends" managed his web site and put up all the lies. Add in a dash of terrible childhood, some new found spirituality, a ton of remorse, and the background theme "I did it all for the kids" and he should make a lot more buck from that than by writing a book about a failed record attempt.

He's closing in on Manhattan......Indiana.

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Nice! use arcmap?

one thing: we are now pretty sure the gps watch ended at 8:19 on hwy 95 going north, not at the RV, and He left the RV at 7:31

1 2 3 green wrote:

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Nice! use arcmap?

one thing: we are now pretty sure the gps watch ended at 8:19 on hwy 95 going north, not at the RV, and He left the RV at 7:31

I just used gmaps and photoshop.

Yeah I only just came back to the thread and saw the new theories about him being on 95. By that point it was too late to edit.

I think it still gives most of the fact. But happy to post the PS file for people to edit.

Agree kudzu runner

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Nicely done. This needs to go in the google docs summary.

MightyUlist wrote:

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Nicely done. This needs to go in the google docs summary.

Cheers. Already added it ;)

Slugburgers? Those won't work. Only sausage rolls will trigger another series of sub-6 miles.

*Cue the Popeye music*

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Excellent work!

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Nice work! There is a typo in the minute/miles pace (20:07 instead of 00:07) but that looks great

Update from laz on the ulist:

"rob planned his main break fro 1500 hours each day...

altho circumstances have moved it around some since we have been here....

and he has begun taking a second break in the middle of the night.

he counts his day from taking the course at 1800 hours each day

(following his main break)

until he goes down for the main break the next day...

the night break is costing him miles,

because he is losing some prime hours (lower temps and no sun)

for making miles.

but I think he needs the rest to remain effective

(I think joe l did the math on that for us)

much of multiday running comes down to tradeoffs

rest vs time on the run

speed vs physical pounding

it is a lot of math,

and making the right decisions

when all you have are bad choices.

laz"

1 2 3 green wrote:

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Nice! use arcmap?

one thing: we are now pretty sure the gps watch ended at 8:19 on hwy 95 going north, not at the RV, and He left the RV at 7:31

You blokes are friggin genius's. So us simpleton kids in our mom's basements (even though in the UK we don't have moms or basements), does this mean he cheated?

I see, how would that work out logistically? He is doing a segment when the RV passes. He gets picked up. He pauses the GPS. They drive him to Laughlin (35 miles). It's now 13:42 Eastern, 10:42 local time. The watch segment needs to run another 90 minutes or so, and he needs a decent amount of miles (less than 21.9, assuming he was picked up in the middle of his segment). He would need to make up miles...

This is interesting, probably nothing, since it only takes up about 10 minutes of their day, and they could have been scouting for gas or something. The tracker passes through Laughlin and into Arizona up Hwy 68 for the 13:30 check-in before heading back to the NV side, showing up south of their eventual hotel at 13:42, and then at 13:54 they are the hotel for their break. Tracker stayed on for 2 hours, until 15:33 Eastern, or 12:30 local time, just past the time RY should have ended his run. Pool photo is 12:52pm.

I'm not convinced. These are the "easiest" ways to get the distance and pace on the TomTom imo:

1) RY actually runs 21 10:00 pace miles unassisted through the Mohave desert on a 100 degree day

2) RY runs 21 miles on the road, and gets a short ride home (maybe even they give him a 15 mile boost, dropping him off outside Laughlin for the long downhill (where was that reference about the fast downhill into town?).

3) RY logs 1 minute miles in the RV, pauses before they get to Laughlin, and then lets the watch run

4) logging extra miles with the tracker at running pace during their break between 1 and 8pm

RYinvestigator wrote:

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Excellent work!

+1

Dmulvee wrote:

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

Nice work! There is a typo in the minute/miles pace (20:07 instead of 00:07) but that looks great

That's weird. I got the numbers from a google sheet. No idea why it came out like that.

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

That is great, thank you.

I called out that as BS when I saw it. I am glad somebody followed up on this.

I read this on a FB ultra running site, a few minutes ago:

"Second update from Laz:

---

rob planned his main break fro 1500 hours each day...

altho circumstances have moved it around some since we have been here....

and he has begun taking a second break in the middle of the night.

he counts his day from taking the course at 1800 hours each day

(following his main break)

until he goes down for the main break the next day...

the night break is costing him miles,

because he is losing some prime hours (lower temps and no sun)

for making miles.

but I think he needs the rest to remain effective

(I think joe l did the math on that for us)

much of multiday running comes down to tradeoffs

rest vs time on the run

speed vs physical pounding

it is a lot of math,

and making the right decisions

when all you have are bad choices."

Markus wrote:

The day the RV broke down wrote:

I put together a graphic that illustrates the evidence we have from the day the RV broke down.

http://i.imgur.com/zjXpAoP.jpg

Note I have used the most optimistic estimates based on 113's original post. This is more to show the evidence than to propose a theory of what happened.

If anyone would like the Photoshop file to edit, I can also upload that.

That is great, thank you.

I called out that as BS when I saw it. I am glad somebody followed up on this.

I guess it's not needed now maybe, but Markus do you have the addl photos of the RV breakdown that RY sent you. These could be checked for any additional evidence.