American U taps Alex Noel as new assistant https://twitter.com/au_trackxc/status/1029833095271391233?s=21
American U taps Alex Noel as new assistant https://twitter.com/au_trackxc/status/1029833095271391233?s=21
going to have a hard time recruiting to a bottom of the conference team.
I doubt it. Most of these girls have grades and visit choices which they can be happy with. UNC is a better school and will get better US girls than ISU. What they do in foreign recruiting is an
open question but I'm not expecting a UNM or USF.
JohnsonJameson wrote:
going to have a hard time recruiting to a bottom of the conference team.
I doubt it. Most of these girls have grades and visit choices which they can be happy with. UNC is a better school and will get better US girls than ISU. What they do in foreign recruiting is an
open question but I'm not expecting a UNM or USF.
There are two problems:
1. recruiting. Her team got 2nd place in the nation and she wasn't able to recruit off of that. Sure UNC might be a more desirable location to many recruits, but it's still a really tough sell to recruits who don't want to get their butts kicked in their conference.
2. She also struggled to develop athletes. poor performances, injuries, eating disorders, etc...That has been UNC's problem in the past and she hasn't really proven that she knows the solution.
ISU last outdoors had one girl qualify in the 800 and that is it in the distance side. For a team that was 2nd in XC several years ago, that's ABYSMAL. Even UNC last year, as bad as they were, had 2 girls qualify for nationals outdoors.
Who did montana state hire?
Wrong! Check the website! Brandon Masters was just hired as the head coach at Northwest MO State.
Looks like Illinois has hired Jebreh Harris, former UNLV Head XC. As mid distance coach.
not understood wrote:
JohnsonJameson wrote:
going to have a hard time recruiting to a bottom of the conference team.
I doubt it. Most of these girls have grades and visit choices which they can be happy with. UNC is a better school and will get better US girls than ISU. What they do in foreign recruiting is an
open question but I'm not expecting a UNM or USF.
There are two problems:
1. recruiting. Her team got 2nd place in the nation and she wasn't able to recruit off of that. Sure UNC might be a more desirable location to many recruits, but it's still a really tough sell to recruits who don't want to get their butts kicked in their conference.
2. She also struggled to develop athletes. poor performances, injuries, eating disorders, etc...That has been UNC's problem in the past and she hasn't really proven that she knows the solution.
ISU last outdoors had one girl qualify in the 800 and that is it in the distance side. For a team that was 2nd in XC several years ago, that's ABYSMAL. Even UNC last year, as bad as they were, had 2 girls qualify for nationals outdoors.
I also believe Andrea can’t coach her way out of a bag for track, but an awesome school like UNC plus a rare agreesive female coach like Andrea will kill recruiting. Throw in rumors of Bobby Lockhart, who amassed a ton of talent at OSU, and they’re going to be awesome.
Great hire and with another Vol getting promoted, looks like Watt's guys are getting around!
moman415 wrote:
Wrong! Check the website! Brandon Masters was just hired as the head coach at Northwest MO State.
Yes and he’s going there to be Masters’ assistant. Smh.
No one said he was going to be the head coach. Smh.
Terrific plans wrote:
not understood wrote:
There are two problems:
1. recruiting. Her team got 2nd place in the nation and she wasn't able to recruit off of that. Sure UNC might be a more desirable location to many recruits, but it's still a really tough sell to recruits who don't want to get their butts kicked in their conference.
2. She also struggled to develop athletes. poor performances, injuries, eating disorders, etc...That has been UNC's problem in the past and she hasn't really proven that she knows the solution.
ISU last outdoors had one girl qualify in the 800 and that is it in the distance side. For a team that was 2nd in XC several years ago, that's ABYSMAL. Even UNC last year, as bad as they were, had 2 girls qualify for nationals outdoors.
I also believe Andrea can’t coach her way out of a bag for track, but an awesome school like UNC plus a rare agreesive female coach like Andrea will kill recruiting. Throw in rumors of Bobby Lockhart, who amassed a ton of talent at OSU, and they’re going to be awesome.
Except when you ask anyone close to the Ok State program , Lockhart is a huge factor behind their sudden downfall and transfers. He’s taking a pay cut because he doesn’t have much choice
Lockhart is a great recruiter even still today. Freshmen classes seem to cling to him. I think the problem lies in their new money distribution. You can’t recruit the same guys with half the funds.
Sf rnnr143 wrote:
Lockhart is a great recruiter even still today. Freshmen classes seem to cling to him. I think the problem lies in their new money distribution. You can’t recruit the same guys with half the funds.
Did OSU cut funds?
Trevor Dunbar hired as assistant XC coach at Boston University per head coach Paul Spangler’s Instagram account.
Brad Herbster official at Pittsburgh.
Give a dog a bone wrote:
Trevor Dunbar hired as assistant XC coach at Boston University per head coach Paul Spangler’s Instagram account.
Not there and i just checked his account
Ayy Cee Cee wrote:
Brad Herbster official at Pittsburgh.
Thats fine but did Adam Bray get out of coaching or did he go somewhere else?
As someone who has followed Iowa State Women's Distance perhaps closer than anyone since 2016 I would like to give my thoughts on Andrea Grove McDonough's tenure at Iowa State.
Point #1: The success she had in the early years, including the 2014 runner up team, was not just a result of Ihmels. She brought in Bethanie Brown and Margaret Connelly. She also undoubtedly helped Katy Moen and Crystal Nelson improve in 2013 & 2014.
Point #2: Over her 5 years she brought in at least 10 proven freshman recruits, and Ames is not the easiest place to recruit top talent to. Jasmine Staebler, Anne Frisbie, Cailie Logue, Evelyne Guay, Larkin Chapman, Amanda Vestri, Erinn Stenman-Fahey, Bethanie Brown, Kelly Naumann, and Karly Ackley have all been solid to very solid Big 12 runners, Guay & Brown have graduated, but the other 8 are still on the roster so Andrea leaves with the team in very good shape. In addition to those 10, Morgan Gigandet, the Ohio large school cross country champion, and Sydney Milani, who won the 100, 200, 400, & 800 at the Iowa large school meet, are freshmen this fall.
Point #3: The idea that Andrea cannot coach track is not true. Iowa State was 4th indoors in the Big 12 in 2018 without Logue and almost all of the scoring came from Jhoa Luque and Andrea's athletes. They had 1 scorer in the 800, 2 in the 1000, 2 in the mile, 2 in the 3000, 3 in the 5000, and won the DMR. Outdoors they had 2 scorers in the 800, 1 in the 1500, 3 in the 5000, and 2 in the 10,000. Andrea's athletes are all over the indoor and outdoor ISU top 10 lists from 800m to 10,000m.
Point #4: She accomplished all of this without a paid assistant and while having a baby in the middle of her tenure. She is savvy with the media and fans and will only get better as a recruiter as her kids get older. Hiring her was a coup for North Carolina and a loss for ISU. Do we wish the national cross country finishes had been higher and do we wish we had a few more qualifiers to Nationals in track? Sure, but she won 3 out of 5 Midwest Regional titles, made the NCAA Cross Country Meet all 5 years, and won 4 out of 5 Big 12 Cross Country titles. If Amy Rudolph matches this in her first 5 years I'll be more than satisfied.