I’m beginning to think this military gathering was initially intended to be a sadam Hussein type of public loyalty gathering where they would need to pledge to MAGA and Mango Mussolini. And a promise to war against US citizens under the guise of Aunt Tifa.
But then they saw the huge pushback and tried to turn it into something more tame. Whiskey Pete had a rant that was a mixture of cultural war agitprop with some military tough guy stuff.
But Trump is too old and broken to realize who he is speaking to. So he is just playing his greatest hits that get the crowd worked up in red caps in Iowa corn fields.
Trump: I used to say boy, I'm speaking in front of the military today and it's embarrassing because I'm speaking in front of people who have a job that other people don't want. But now you have a job that everybody wants. I have think it has to make you feel good
Our distinguished Military Generals traveled according the globe to hear this wisdom
Trump: "I'm very careful when I walk down stairs, like I'm on stairs, I walk very slowly. Nobody has to set a record. Just try not to fall because it doesn't work out well."
Trump to top military officials: "I'm so disappointed in President Putin. I thought he would get this thing over with. He shoulda had that war done in a week."
Remember how you said that Trump would make all wars cease?
Trump: Secretary Hegseth will soon be announcing major reforms to expedite foreign military sales. We have orders for the f-35, orders for everything, the new f-47. Orders for everything. They have to make it faster. Ammunition, they have to make faster.
This is what Trumpism is all about. Whiskey Pete, the sexual assault deviant drunkard that bankrupted two charities and is the most least qualified person in his military position. This guy invites the most decorated, professional military experts in the world to lecture them about how the military will not put up with unqualified people in their ranks.
Imagine sitting there and listening to this as a 4 star general!
Very good point. I'm a bit embarrassed that as I sat shaking my head about quotes from both of them during the meeting, what you said above actually didn't occur to me! Again, embarrassed !!
Sanford was in a relationship with a Mormon woman some time ago. He wanted to become a Mormon to marry her, but the church told him to get rid of tattoos. Then, he and the girl a falling out - possibly over religion - and she left him.
This developed into an irrational hatred which he transferred to the LDS Church as a whole and resulted in the events we saw Sunday.
It was a personal gripe, but the left couldn't resist politicizing it.
Hegseth: "You should not pay for an earnest mistake for your entire career. That's why today, at my direction, we're making changes to the retention of adverse information on personnel records."
War crimes: Yeah, maybe.
ANYTHING other than subservient, beaming, 'How high, sir?!' obedience 100% of the time? ABSOLUTELY NOT. RESIGN !!!
Put another way: Snowflake junior folks making legitimate complaints about mistreatment from manly-man as**** leaders? NOT ANY MORE !!!
Senior leaders up to the 4-star level making even diplomatic, legitimate complaints to SECDEF or POTUS about ANYTHING? NEVER!! The 2 snowflakes in charge (maxing out at O-Zero and O-4) can't handle it!!
Sanford was in a relationship with a Mormon woman some time ago. He wanted to become a Mormon to marry her, but the church told him to get rid of tattoos. Then, he and the girl a falling out - possibly over religion - and she left him.
This developed into an irrational hatred which he transferred to the LDS Church as a whole and resulted in the events we saw Sunday.
It was a personal gripe, but the left couldn't resist politicizing it.
The Left is evil.
MAGA shoots up some Mormons, so the The Left is evil. That's like Tylenol thinking, Spuds.
All that hard-earned tariff money that was raised to support American businesses and now we're sending pallets of cash ($20 billion) to the biggest degenerate, banana republic in South America, so they can do Christ only knows what with it. Ex-pat Nazis, juntas, cocaine cowboys, jagoffs, cowards, all those types. The Argentinians will be throwing our green Benjamins up in the air, high-fiving, swilling champagne and singing whatever sh!t music they listen to down there all goddam week. Are they even going to thank the American taxpayer who funded this even once? $20 fvcking billion dollars to those clowns.
They stole millions from the farmers who can't sell their soybeans to China, the salt of the earth. the backbone of our great country. The money is packaged on pallets and will be air dropped from C-130 planes to the ne'er-do-wells in Argentina who are selling soybeans to those same Chinese.
Oh, the poor, poor American soybean farmer with the huge "Trump 2024!" banner still hanging from the barn......
....and he'd likely STILL vote for him tomorrow!
That's what makes America great. Our EVIDENT greatness.
Trump to military leaders: I am a very aesthetic person. I don't like some of the ships you are doing aesthetically. They say it is stealth. That's not stealth. An ugly ship is not necessary in order to say you are stealth.
Um, again, he had a relative who might have been a professor, so I'm PRETTY sure that he knows what is and isn't important with respect to stealth ship design !!
these generals must loathe trump with every inch of their honorable souls. Being called away from their duties to be given a sophomoric political lecture and an armchair 'we are in the business of killing people and breaking stuff' lecture by two TV people.
On the other hand, they get the message loud and clear: If you want to keep your job and your retirement benefits you must not push back against the TV boys.
NYT:
There does not seem to be a clear point or purpose in President Trump’s address to military generals today. It’s a garden variety tear; he’s talking about tariffs, Joe Biden and the autopen, the southern border, CNN, his personal feelings about President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and his anxieties that he won’t be given a Nobel Peace Prize he feels he deserves. These are things he talks about almost every day regardless of audience or setting. Every so often he throws in a statistic or observation he has about the military. “I think we should maybe start thinking about battleships by the way” he said at one point in the middle of a riff about tariffs. “I used to watch Victory at Sea. I love Victory at Sea.”
NO ONE in that room is going to lose one dime of their retirement (at their last permanent rank, all of which are high) if they resign or get fired from their current position.
And just like most or all members of Congress, most of their earnings potential "on the outside" is very high (and at least somewhat proportional to number of stars). There are, of course, plenty of considerations for and against pushing back, but....imminent homelessness simply isn't one of them.
these generals must loathe trump with every inch of their honorable souls. Being called away from their duties to be given a sophomoric political lecture and an armchair 'we are in the business of killing people and breaking stuff' lecture by two TV people.
On the other hand, they get the message loud and clear: If you want to keep your job and your retirement benefits you must not push back against the TV boys.
NYT:
There does not seem to be a clear point or purpose in President Trump’s address to military generals today. It’s a garden variety tear; he’s talking about tariffs, Joe Biden and the autopen, the southern border, CNN, his personal feelings about President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and his anxieties that he won’t be given a Nobel Peace Prize he feels he deserves. These are things he talks about almost every day regardless of audience or setting. Every so often he throws in a statistic or observation he has about the military. “I think we should maybe start thinking about battleships by the way” he said at one point in the middle of a riff about tariffs. “I used to watch Victory at Sea. I love Victory at Sea.”
Since when is it a bad thing for people to be loyal to the president?
these generals must loathe trump with every inch of their honorable souls. Being called away from their duties to be given a sophomoric political lecture and an armchair 'we are in the business of killing people and breaking stuff' lecture by two TV people.
On the other hand, they get the message loud and clear: If you want to keep your job and your retirement benefits you must not push back against the TV boys.
NYT:
There does not seem to be a clear point or purpose in President Trump’s address to military generals today. It’s a garden variety tear; he’s talking about tariffs, Joe Biden and the autopen, the southern border, CNN, his personal feelings about President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and his anxieties that he won’t be given a Nobel Peace Prize he feels he deserves. These are things he talks about almost every day regardless of audience or setting. Every so often he throws in a statistic or observation he has about the military. “I think we should maybe start thinking about battleships by the way” he said at one point in the middle of a riff about tariffs. “I used to watch Victory at Sea. I love Victory at Sea.”
Since when is it a bad thing for people to be loyal to the president?
all military swear an oath to be loyal to the Constitution, not to the commander in chief.
these generals must loathe trump with every inch of their honorable souls. Being called away from their duties to be given a sophomoric political lecture and an armchair 'we are in the business of killing people and breaking stuff' lecture by two TV people.
On the other hand, they get the message loud and clear: If you want to keep your job and your retirement benefits you must not push back against the TV boys.
NYT:
There does not seem to be a clear point or purpose in President Trump’s address to military generals today. It’s a garden variety tear; he’s talking about tariffs, Joe Biden and the autopen, the southern border, CNN, his personal feelings about President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and his anxieties that he won’t be given a Nobel Peace Prize he feels he deserves. These are things he talks about almost every day regardless of audience or setting. Every so often he throws in a statistic or observation he has about the military. “I think we should maybe start thinking about battleships by the way” he said at one point in the middle of a riff about tariffs. “I used to watch Victory at Sea. I love Victory at Sea.”
NO ONE in that room is going to lose one dime of their retirement (at their last permanent rank, all of which are high) if they resign or get fired from their current position.
And just like most or all members of Congress, most of their earnings potential "on the outside" is very high (and at least somewhat proportional to number of stars). There are, of course, plenty of considerations for and against pushing back, but....imminent homelessness simply isn't one of them.
....in fact, it's KIND OF "funny," in that many of them are going to - sooner or later - go get rich working for a defense contractor selling all of those beautiful weapons that Trump says they're "getting orders for."
these generals must loathe trump with every inch of their honorable souls. Being called away from their duties to be given a sophomoric political lecture and an armchair 'we are in the business of killing people and breaking stuff' lecture by two TV people.
On the other hand, they get the message loud and clear: If you want to keep your job and your retirement benefits you must not push back against the TV boys.
NYT:
There does not seem to be a clear point or purpose in President Trump’s address to military generals today. It’s a garden variety tear; he’s talking about tariffs, Joe Biden and the autopen, the southern border, CNN, his personal feelings about President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and his anxieties that he won’t be given a Nobel Peace Prize he feels he deserves. These are things he talks about almost every day regardless of audience or setting. Every so often he throws in a statistic or observation he has about the military. “I think we should maybe start thinking about battleships by the way” he said at one point in the middle of a riff about tariffs. “I used to watch Victory at Sea. I love Victory at Sea.”
NO ONE in that room is going to lose one dime of their retirement (at their last permanent rank, all of which are high) if they resign or get fired from their current position.
And just like most or all members of Congress, most of their earnings potential "on the outside" is very high (and at least somewhat proportional to number of stars). There are, of course, plenty of considerations for and against pushing back, but....imminent homelessness simply isn't one of them.
whatchoo talking about, willis?
remember what they did to Milley for not being sufficiently loyal to Trump. Trump mentioned Milley today as a direct reminder of what could happen to them if they stick their neck out like Milley did against Trump.
"Pentagon pulling Gen. Milley's security detail and clearance 'immediately,' may face demotion in retirement"
Sanford was in a relationship with a Mormon woman some time ago. He wanted to become a Mormon to marry her, but the church told him to get rid of tattoos. Then, he and the girl a falling out - possibly over religion - and she left him.
This developed into an irrational hatred which he transferred to the LDS Church as a whole and resulted in the events we saw Sunday.
It was a personal gripe, but the left couldn't resist politicizing it.
The Left is evil.
and that the guy shot up the mormon temple right after a kid from a Mormon family killed m'aga Kirk?
NO ONE in that room is going to lose one dime of their retirement (at their last permanent rank, all of which are high) if they resign or get fired from their current position.
And just like most or all members of Congress, most of their earnings potential "on the outside" is very high (and at least somewhat proportional to number of stars). There are, of course, plenty of considerations for and against pushing back, but....imminent homelessness simply isn't one of them.
whatchoo talking about, willis?
remember what they did to Milley for not being sufficiently loyal to Trump. Trump mentioned Milley today as a direct reminder of what could happen to them if they stick their neck out like Milley did against Trump.
"Pentagon pulling Gen. Milley's security detail and clearance 'immediately,' may face demotion in retirement"
I was only addressing retirement pay/benefits. But I will grant you that we're certainly in a brand new, horrible era - and getting worse by the day - where perhaps most or all past assumptions might be far less reliable.
Olden Days: Earn retirement, get it. Pay commensurate with your last permanent rank. I'm no expert, but I'd be VERY surprised if Milley's permanent rank wasn't, in fact, 4-star (O-10, the current top rank possible).
Now, it's Trump, so he'll try anything, but best guess is that Milley will still get that level of retirement pay. And that's a guy with a big (and commendable) target on his back. Most people sitting in that aud? Probably not targeted, should they resign, and perhaps even express some pre-resignation objection(s).
Again, every one of them has a generous retirement waiting for them, and high post-military earning potential. Just like Congress, we can and should (however naively) EXPECT principled behavior.
