HEPS Track and Field 2012-13

Also at Stanford, Brown's Olivia Mickle wins her section of the 10,000 in 33:52 (Cornell's K. Kellner DNF), and Brett Kelly of Cornell ran 29:14.

Maskim Korolev of Harvard finished just ahead of Kelly in the 10k, 29:13.80.

Ned Willg of Brown ran 3:45.43 in the 1500, being the top finisher from Brown.

Daniel Everett of Columbia ran 13:57.72 in the 5000.

Other athletes competed at Stanford but the above are the top performances that haven't been previously mentioned.

Glad to see that HTC (hepstrack.com) has broken the news about Oxford and Cambridge joining Heps!--though I had thought the announcement was not to have been made until tomorrow.

Strangely enough, those of us who were involved with starting the Ivy championships for women's teams--almost 40 years ago, now--had pushed for something like this, right from the start. Sadly, our budgets back then (Cornell's was $600/yr) would have only allowed sending a single athlete to a British-soil Heps meet--and not bringing her back--so the idea had to be dropped.

The British teams will be covered by Brit eligibility rules, so their grad students, etc., will be eligible for Heps. This will be wonderful for the many Ivy athletes who head to Oxford on Rhodes scholarships, as they will no longer be restricted to a maximum of four years' Heps competition, but will be able to compete at Heps for as long as they're enrolled (theoretically, ten years or more!) at Oxford.

I'm also glad to hear that scoring will follow the British model: one point for winning an event, and no other scores. Obviously this will make it easier to figure out which team has won; and there will be an added benefit in eliminating the dreary who-was-the-fastest-loser psychology that has infested some Heps coaches' thinking. Ivy League championships should simply be about who's the best, period--just as the League itself is the best.

I can now say that most of this agreement had been in place for a few years, but was held up by the NCAA's one-overseas-trip-in-four-years restriction. I'm very pleased that the NCAA finally came to see how important these competitions would be for Ivy students' educations, and waived that rule.

And I'm pleased that the Ivy coaches were willing to accommodate the British unies by moving the "traditional" Heps championship dates (the Oxbridge schools have a *slightly* longer tradition!), with the cross meet now in February and the outdoor Heps in late June, following the NCAA meet. Nice to see that kind of flexibility from League coaches.

Well done, all!

:-)

Is there actually a "NCAA's one-overseas-trip-in-four-years restriction"?

C/M Runner wrote:

Is there actually a "NCAA's one-overseas-trip-in-four-years restriction"?

Sure. That's why the Penn/Cornell combined teams can only take one trip to the British Isles in a four-year cycle. It's also why the qualifying competition (typically, but I think not always, a dual meet between the two) is rawther intense during those years.

I'm pretty sure their next trip is in 2014. That means that this year's seniors had to produce when they were frosh, or no trip.

According to his blog it looks like Adam Cotton might be back for outdoor heps. Should add some excitement to the 1500 alongside Wade and Callahan http://www.athleticos.org/blog/46269-Back-in-the-Game

I knew Harvard/Yale also only go over once every four years, but I never knew it was an NCAA restriction that made the determination as to how frequently they could travel. I always thought it was a time period agreed upon by the four- schools involved to allow the undergrads one chance to experience the oceanic crossing.

Speaking of HY/OC - OC is coming over this year. I believe the HY/OC meet is on April 16th at Harvard, with the HY team selection at the H/Y dual on the 13th. Anyone going to make it to the meet? How about the CP/OC one? Anyone know when that will be?

As for Cotton - he technically did Outdoor Heps last year, but he did not look good at all during it. I hope he's close to form by early May... as strong as the Harvard's men team is, they need more point in the running events and Cotton could be a huge asset once he is completely healthy.

Guys, it was April Fools.

gotiger - Ned Willig of Brown will also make the 1500m interesting this year. He did 3:45 last weekend.

C/M Runner wrote:

gotiger - Ned Willig of Brown will also make the 1500m interesting this year. He did 3:45 last weekend.

He also ran 1:50 in the 800. Having watched him a good bit in high school, I'm curious to see what he ends up doing.

Holy crap, Heps is just a month away. Where did the time/season go?!?

The outdoor season is always so short.

What C/M was discussing was legit, even if it was prompted by an April Fool's article.

So Princeton rotates their international trip (China '07, Greece '11, etc), H-Y-Cor-Pe do meets against Oxford & Cambridge, do Brown, Dartmouth, or Columbia have recurring international trips?

And yes, the once-every-four-years limit is set by the NCAA. I think the idea is to keep it from turning into an arms race where schools like Oregon and Texas attract top recruits by flying their athletes around the globe a couple times a year.

Some good stuff in the distances at Princeton tonight (Friday):

http://tumeytiming.com/mm/Princetonhowell/

Three Ivy men under 9:08 in the steeplechase, led by J. Gregorek's (COL) 8:52 winner. Four Ivy women under 10:39 in the same event, with the best League time from M. Newberry (PRI) at 10:18.

In the 10,000m, three Ivy guys under 29:56, with C. Bendtsen (PRI) the winner at 29:32. Three women under 35:33, with A. Levene (PRI) winning at 34:21.

Et cetera. Gotta go--I'll let someone else sum the other events...

Cornell--with Penn--hosted Oxford and Cambridge today. Weather was decent, all things considered--sun and not much wind--but cold: didn't break 40 degrees F until the middle of the afternoon.

Not too much to report from the meet. Results are up (

http://www.tfrrs.org/results/29779.html

), but unfortunately many athletes' team affiliations are misidentified. A lot of Penn athletes, in particular, are misidentified as "Cornell" in the results; and those misIDs have been carried over to the Ivy performance list (

http://www.tfrrs.org/lists/1051.html

).

Let's see, significant performances...Cornell's Bruno H-R improved his 400 time to 47.55 and is leading the League by almost a full second. Max Hairston (COR) improved to 14.48 in the HH. Peter Roach (COR), defending outdoor Heps PV champ, continued his comeback from injury and cleared 5.10, closing within six inches of Nico Weiler (HAR). Stephen Mozia (COR) improved his hammer to 55m/180ft-plus.

[A number of men (and women) from both schools did not compete in this meet. One of the no-shows was JTer Rob Robbins: he threw a League leader in Cornell's first outdoor meet and hasn't had a mark since. I hope he's okay...]

On the women's side, most notable marks were in the field. The vaulters did well: Penn's Davielle Brown and Cornell's Claire Dishong both jumped a League-leading 3.82m (12-6 1/2), with Lindsey Patterson (COR) only 10cm lower. Dominique Corley (COR) moved to second on the League list with a wind-legal 5.70 LJ. And Cornell showed one approach to "depth problems"(so-called--they have 100+ women on the roster!) by having Victoria Imbesi add the discus to her usual shot and javelin events, winning all three and posting seasonal bests in the former two.

Thanks for the heads up on the misidentified athletes. I plan to play with projected scorings again tonight/tomorrow so hopefully I can catch them all.

I haven't had much of a chance to look anything up, but I did see Harvard's Autumne Franklin run a 13.78 with a 2.4 tailwind in the 100 hurdles down in Florida. Austin Hollimon was supposed to have run the 400 hurdles down there too - anyone know how he did?

C/ M Runner wrote:

Austin Hollimon was supposed to have run the 400 hurdles down there too - anyone know how he did?

Austin ran 53.62 (

). At first I'd thought it was 50.38, which was rawther exciting, but then I saw that was just his seed time.

He nevertheless certainly has the talent to run (sub-)50, and it'll be interesting to watch the next few weeks. Gad, Heps is only four weeks away!

No one appears to be mis-identified when I look this morning. The meet saw Penn and Cornell combine forces. Perhaps the TFRRS/Direct Athletics database just took a while to separate things back out?

the heps may be less than a month away but it is still way too early to do projected scoring.

harvard/yale has its dual meet coming up, many of the schools go to george mason this weekend...although every team has been in at least one big meet it won't be for another week or two until you'll have a chance to see everyone's cards.