Sage Canaday Reports Cam Hanes to USADA After 58-Year-Old’s 2:39 Eugene Marathon

Singletrack podcast has also downplayed Cam cheating. Something something about being a positive influence and no mention on the integrity of the sport. It’s like the podcasters want the sport to encourage walking pharmacy labs so they have more products to pedal in the name of health optimizing with 1000 dolllar of peptides, hormones, and other banned supplements.

This thread has definitely evolved. On account of Cams side this is necessary. Tattletale, followers, shi* talkers, politics. Thank you for all of that and your expression.

Things come back into focus no talk of Cam giving up his award, 18+year exogenous hormone history.

Cam you can keep your channel, medias But not sanctioned events.

This is very disappointing to hear. Finn himself was 5th in Cocodona 2025....the same year Cam Hanes finished 18th.

Another lie Cam made up in his latest podcast: He suggested I was going after him for a "life-time ban". That is not true also. Probably the biggest ban USADA can give him is maybe up to 4 years...but at this point probably less and very likely nothing will come out of all this (if i had to guess?). Could be 4 months for all I know?

Finally his biggest point is now that he "only started BPC-157 in November of 2024." However we don't know when (if he did?) end that? In his initial Instagram comment from last month it was: "I've taken supplements for years...mainly just to put on muscle...and now, just for health, like stem cell, BPC-157 etc....I don't now if they're legal..."

Kinda paints a different picture with the timing and when he was still using BPC-157 or for how long he took it (or not)?

In any case if he was racing Cocodona 250 in early May of 2025 after starting BPC-157 in November of 2024 (and Aravaipa's "anti-doping policy" was the same as it is written now)...that's a 5-6 month window of starting BPC-157 to racing this event that follows USADA rules? He was the top 50+ year old in the field at Cocodona that year. Sure, it probably wasn't nearly as good of a performance as his 2:39 in Eugene though.

It would help maybe if Aravaipa Running and the Eugene Marathons actually enforced their policies "following USADA rules"?

Bringing out of the loop’s request back to the top. What did Molly say?

"Lifetime Ban"

Cam does know how substance violations work and you would not leapfrog into lifetime ban as a first time caught offender yet in fact many years offender. This click bait is part in parcel of him spinning to deflect.

The victim here is the clean sport he signed up for and the hardworking AG who are not hammering prohibited substances.

Yeah, it was disappointing to hear Finn and Alyssa Clark (I believe it was) being super wishy-washy on Cam. Des and Kara did the same, though to Kara's credit she was a little stronger in saying she's a "rules follower". It was especially absurd to hear Des being "I can see both sides of it" when she was the one who publicly called out Ritz and Brooks Hansons over Ritz being duped by Salazar on some of the IV transfusion stuff (that was his story anyway, and I am inclined to believe him). Beyond that, Des doesn't want anti-drug resources dedicated to anything but the pros, which was irritating for those of us who compete in USATF masters events and some of our registration fees are meant to pay for testing and enforcement (it's a little different for something like the Eugene Marathon).

These podcasters bent over backwards to "see both sides of the issue" when it's not exactly a hard call to think that running in a USATF event is not a god-given right and the rules of the event apply to everyone (even leaving aside the absurdity of just shrugging off the obvious cheating).

I'd swear that Finn and Alyssa were afraid of blow-back from Cam's followers. I don't think that's true about Des, just think she was being an idiot about it plus thinking there was some kind of merit in bending over backwards to be "even-handed." (I like Des so I'm not saying this as a "hater" but as a fan of hers and the podcast).

Yeah, absolutely no moral compass. They see themselves as better than non influencers and they cannot outright admit when one of them is wrong if they have similar interest and they need to protect them and then one day they might be protected when the pitchforks are out. It’s pitiful. I wish more people would realize influencers and podcasters reliant on sponsors are not on your side, they are on the side on influencers and money and they will protect that.

No they are not testing at all at Black Canyon, even for podiums

With the embrace of some one on PED, their "ultrarunning community"'s stance against UTMB for being too commercialized becomes farcical. I think being commercialized is much less of a sin than embracing PED

What would he have taken? Blood thinners aren't banned substances. One would think getting a clot would be, you know, bad for elite running performance.

Doesn’t EPO cause blood clots? Sage?!

Is he a true man in his capacity to tell falsehoods and to tell truths?

The true man would know of his false behavior and know he is false and true. For the ignorant man would not know if he is saying a truth or a falsehood.

He doesn't have to reveal his medical records, we don't need transparency in our sport we need integrity and accountability, Sage hasn't admitted to taking banned substances ( Cam did) and hasn't tested positive for any banned substances.

Also as an asthmatic who has done many races where there is drug testing. You should be aware you can take Inhalers, or as you put it "steroid inhaler". There are different types of inhalers and USADA treats them differently. In my case I took Advair and a TUE is only required if you take more than 200mcg in a 24 hour period. My inhaler was not that strong, I was just under the limit but if I timed my dosages wrong on race day I could get in trouble.

You read the rules you follow the rules, and you apply for a TUE if you need them it's simple.

What I think people don't understand about PED's is that they don't necessarily help you on race day. A lot of the drugs out there keep you healthy enough to put in a larger body of work in your training than you would otherwise be able to do while clean.

I keep seeing the excuse that the peptides didn't run the race for Cam and that he has worked harder than his peers for decades to get where he is now. He probably did put in more work than his peers. The question is how much work would he have been able to put in while clean. Injuries are a fact of life as you get older and keep running. Taking a shortcut to healing is fine, but I do think that should disqualify you from competing in a sport that should be on a level playing field.

This whole debate is very disheartening as a hobby-jogger who cares about my place in races/my age group as I get older. Am I going to have to start a stack of online supplements in order to be competitive against my peers if this is normalized?

Sage stop being a tramp. You're butthurt that a near 60 year old "influencer" took peptides to avoid surgery and is on TRT. I think your motives for going after him isn't about clean sport because you have made it clear with how you attack his son. This is personal, my guess is because he does represent a fraction of the sport of ultra you and other runners hate.

To give them a little bit of grace, at least they touched it (still nothing to my knowledge from Dylan Bowman and Freetrail), and it was as part of their weekly trail news bulletin show, not a full episode on the topic, so it was by design a brief treatment.

That said, agreed that what they did say was pretty toothless. Both Finn and his co-host basically landed on, "Cam has done so much for the visibility of the sport and bringing people to the sport, so let's cut him some slack". Yet, another ongoing conversation in the trail space is the "culture of the sport", and how the commercialization/professionalization of the sport is having material impact on what some would classify as the more pure, dirt bag origins of the sport.

If you're willing to decry, or at least question, the impact organizations like UTMB are having on the culture of the sport, shouldn't the fact that someone you are saying is having an outsize impact on the changing culture of the sport being an admitted, un-apologetic doper also give you pause? There was a serious lack of introspection on that front, which again, I'm willing to give Finn the benefit of the doubt a little that perhaps in a longer form treatment of the subject he would have gotten into.

But as it was, if those 5 minutes were all you listened to about the topic, it definitely would paint Cam in a far more sympathetic light than his actions and words would seem to merit.

Sage's contributions are always enlightening. I recall him calling out the board's resident doping-denier, referring to him as the most ill-informed poster on the site.

Again, I think that's a little harsh on Finn, but I see your point.

Another reason I'd really like to see the Boulder Boys take the issue on, as they are not beholden to any corporate sponsors as far as their podcast is concerned. In particular I can see Matt Daniels letting it fly. At this point, with all the kowtowing we've seen so far, actually making a comment strongly against Cam might actually be good for business/visibility, especially coming from dudes have a little more cachet in the current trail scene (no offense Sage).

Also since I took a slight dig at Sage, just want to echo what others have already said: thank you Sage for taking this on. You're taking a lot of heat for doing the right thing. I for one am grateful that you have the stomach for it. Easy for me to sit here behind a fake name, you're putting yourself on the line, so huge kudos.