Admiral Floofy wrote:
Oregon with an amazing 15th place finish with zero AAs. Jerry really earning his paycheck.
Wait nvm I was looking at 6k splits — 14th place I’m sorry with 1 AA. Jerry is @$$
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Can someone pls explain to me how the cross country race scoring system works
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ISU Hypotethical wrote:
It doesnt really work like this, obviously, but worth noting...
It was Joash Ruto who hit the deck right before 5k. You can see he went from 13th at 4k to 83th at 5k before rallying into the 30s.
He lost 12 seconds vs the leader at that 5k split. If (BIG IF) you just knock 12 seconds off his final time, he scores 18 points instead of 31. He would displace one of his one teammates and one BYU runner in this scenario.
Final score - ISU 125, BYU 125. ISU would win tiebreaker by a single place separating the respective 5th place runners.
Obviously highly speculative, but interesting nonetheless
Habtom Samuel took out Ruto and Kipkemboi from of OSU, hence Masau chewing him out mid race.
Samuel may now be known as the guy who quite literally took out Iowa State’s chance for a major upset over BYU. Had Ruto never fell…
Props to BYU, Bons with a monster race as well. Gutsy way for the group to hold on after getting out after it.
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colorunner123 wrote:
Lex Young 63rd
Colin Sahlman 67th
Simeon Birnbaum 74th
Leo Young 92nd
JoJo Jourdon 47th!
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Could not get anymore BYU with Casey Clinger, who graduated high school seven years ago, excited to get home to his wife and newborn.
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Some interesting under the radar results. True sophomore George Couttie, 19 year old from UK and Virginia Tech who was in the WU20 1500m final in late August in Lima showed some range and confirmed is legit over cross country after winning the regional meet. I mean, who had it as 14th? Best true freshman was NXN champion Jojo Jourdon in 47th. Nathan Green moved up 38 spots in the last K and had the fastest last K of the whole field, in 2:40. And wow, Messaoudi di not look good 10 minutes in, but he completely bombed up finishing in 222nd. Shout out to Wisco men, they finally hit a national meeet after folding on the biggest stage for years
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Is the reason that a lot of people placed maybe 34th, but scored 31 points because some guys in the race don't have a team score and are running as individuals?
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Jeff Wigand wrote:
Could not get anymore BYU with Casey Clinger, who graduated high school seven years ago, excited to get home to his wife and newborn.
I'm a BYU fan, but you're right, this may just be the most BYU thing ever.
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If I'm not mistaken, add up the places of your top 5 runners. For example, if your top 5 runners were placed 6th, 16th, 72th, 84th, and 99th, the team score would be 277. You want the lowest team score possible.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
run in African championships wrote:
Hahaha Dave Smith is the worst coach in the NCAA
I mean last year his 3-4-5 ran historically amazing. Today, historically bad. Shows it’s probably a really fine line with overtraining.
A mixture of overtraining and bad tactics today. Those back end guys got out way too slow for their comfort.
Kipkemboi fell apart mentally it seems after getting taken out mid race. Messaoudi seems to have had a huge mental wall today.
Also BYU this year was legendary. How many sub 28:30/ sub 13:40 guys weren’t all American today? More than any other year.
Margin of error is much smaller than previous years, a sub 28:10 10k guy didn’t even qualify out of the Mountain region this year individually.
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Runnerrrrr wrote:
Izaiah Steury finished 24th for Notre Dame. beating all of his former teammates from Oregon.
Izaiah Steury is HIM.
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predictions2024 wrote:
Oklahoma State wins, BYU second, and Georgetown last because they are terrible and did not deserve to make nationals
Good predicting. OSU falls flat on their faces and the Hoyas finish 23rd, better than their rankings coming in.
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rbtrackfan wrote:
GoPack wrote:
They might have been the only team not running a Senior today. 2 So, 1 Jr, 4 F. Next 2 years looking real promising
And Stephens. Plug her in today and they would have close
AL scorers were two SO and three FR today -- another squad with a very promising future.
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Don't worry I googled it.
Edit: Oops seems I've revealed myself
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Clueless foreigner wrote:
Can someone pls explain to me how the cross country race scoring system worksEach team has 7 runners. Each team's score is the sum of the places for it's first 5 runners. If the 7 runners on a team get 1st, 5th, 9th, 12th, 50th, 55th, and 63rd, their score is 1+5+9+12+50 = 77. The 6th and the 7th person don't impact the scoring, they are there as backups in case someone in the team's top 5 has a bad day
Lowest score wins.
There are other more detailed rules about tie breakers, and for individuals participating in the race without a complete team. But that's the gist of it.
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Jakobdabbing wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
I mean last year his 3-4-5 ran historically amazing. Today, historically bad. Shows it’s probably a really fine line with overtraining.
A mixture of overtraining and bad tactics today. Those back end guys got out way too slow for their comfort.
Kipkemboi fell apart mentally it seems after getting taken out mid race. Messaoudi seems to have had a huge mental wall today.
Also BYU this year was legendary. How many sub 28:30/ sub 13:40 guys weren’t all American today? More than any other year.
Margin of error is much smaller than previous years, a sub 28:10 10k guy didn’t even qualify out of the Mountain region this year individually.
I think when BYU beat OSU at Big 12 it psychologically messed with OSU and they never recovered. up until then they were thought of as a juggernaut and ran loose, and losing shattered their confidence. I don't think Dave Smith was able to get them back on track mentally for today.
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Best male true freshmen
Jojo Jourdon 47th, former NXN champ, Wake Forest
Drew Griffith, 90th, Foot Locker champ, Notre Dame
Paul Bergeron, 112th, StanfordColin Eckermann, 145th, Furman
Christopher Knight, 180th, Furman
All were scorers
Robert Kwemoi Bera was 37th but I don't think is an under 20 athlete
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THIS JUST IN: DAVE SMITH bringing Joshua Cheptegei, Jakob Kiplimo for the 2025 season, Kenya is not enough of a recruiting pool, Uganda now required.
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Syracuse finished 11th with all American -born runners (except one), pretty impressive. They beat Stanford! I'm surprised Villanova didn't finish higher than 15th. Are they missing some runners due to injury? Their roster is 3 /7 freshmen.
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did wrote:
Clueless foreigner wrote:
Can someone pls explain to me how the cross country race scoring system worksEach team has 7 runners. Each team's score is the sum of the places for it's first 5 runners. If the 7 runners on a team get 1st, 5th, 9th, 12th, 50th, 55th, and 63rd, their score is 1+5+9+12+50 = 77. The 6th and the 7th person don't impact the scoring, they are there as backups in case someone in the team's top 5 has a bad day
Lowest score wins.
There are other more detailed rules about tie breakers, and for individuals participating in the race without a complete team. But that's the gist of it.
Actually number 6 and 7 impact the scoring by adding a point to the people behind them I believe. So if you put your number 7 in front of another team 5th scorer, your number 7 score won't be just ignored as in case of individual runners
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