Centro American Record Attempt - 7/24

Swedish Pride wrote:

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Thank you very much. So one more time for all the fanboys that refuse to have a realistic outlook:

I would also add recent sub 3:30 Jake Wightman to that second group.

Makhloufi wild card

Troothsayer wrote:

rojo wrote:

Really racially diverse crowd.

Rojo has a bit of Archie Bunker in him. He means well.

This is a diverse crowd

Random question xyz wrote:

Swedish Pride wrote:

I would also add recent sub 3:30 Jake Wightman to that second group.

Makhloufi wild card

How does that guy always manage to sneak in after being out of the circuit for years? When did he get his OQ time?

Makhloufi is always a wild card, but only because he's likely spent the last 2 years in dubious medical clinics.

I think Josh Kerr has likely surpassed Jake Wightman. Kerr for the bronze and maybe silver or gold if Tim and Jakob are anything less than 100%. Jake Heyward has a great chance to make the final.

Number 33 wrote:

Makhloufi is always a wild card, but only because he's likely spent the last 2 years in dubious medical clinics.

I think Josh Kerr has likely surpassed Jake Wightman. Kerr for the bronze and maybe silver or gold if Tim and Jakob are anything less than 100%. Jake Heyward has a great chance to make the final.

It’s always so obvious where people are from/who they root for based on their “objective” takes of medal favorites. Particularly for Brits/Aussies/Americans.

highhoppingworm wrote:

Number 33 wrote:

Makhloufi is always a wild card, but only because he's likely spent the last 2 years in dubious medical clinics.

I think Josh Kerr has likely surpassed Jake Wightman. Kerr for the bronze and maybe silver or gold if Tim and Jakob are anything less than 100%. Jake Heyward has a great chance to make the final.

It’s always so obvious where people are from/who they root for based on their “objective” takes of medal favorites. Particularly for Brits/Aussies/Americans.

Well, I already discarded Wightman as a medal threat, but Kerr just had that 1:46 TT with a 50s last lap, which is insane. Watch that video, he just walks off after the run without having to lay down or catch his breath...

Hard to ignore McSweyn with a 3:48 mile and 3:29 1500m. Tim and Jakob will deliver as well. Lewandowski is in the shape of his life. And then there's Makhloufi.

youth.in.revolt wrote:

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

3.49.26. It’s a great effort, not sure exactly what he wanted but a PR and a great blowout. Impressive.

Err I believe he wanted the American record

3:49 is terrible for centro/ the defending Olympic champ. He proved he’s nobody just like Josh Kerr said

NastyOldMan wrote:

Let down by pacers

Really? It's their fault he didn't run 3 sec faster? I thought he was the master tactician? With the new super shoes this is actually slower than his PR by a good amount.

You would think a 31 yr. old guy with his experience could pace himself better.

An exercise in hubris. What on earth led him to believe he could run under 3:47 when no race he has ever run as shown that he could?

This was great. Watching a guy run the last 300 with junk in his legs about a week before he's supposed to start running rounds in hot weather and his minions are somehow thinking this was a great result. What was his 2nd 880? +7?

He is fit. He's just not fast.

Experiencing success increases confidence, even if that experience comes up short on your personal measuring stick. Centro, despite wildly missing the AR, ran faster than he ever had. That third lap 'failure' at world record pace was success for his muscle memory.

Don't sweat it.

Jakob C. Hocker wrote:

Experiencing success increases confidence, even if that experience comes up short on your personal measuring stick. Centro, despite wildly missing the AR, ran faster than he ever had. That third lap 'failure' at world record pace was success for his muscle memory.

Don't sweat it.

There is no such thing as muscle memory.

Jakob C. Hocker wrote:

Experiencing success increases confidence, even if that experience comes up short on your personal measuring stick. Centro, despite wildly missing the AR, ran faster than he ever had. That third lap 'failure' at world record pace was success for his muscle memory.

Don't sweat it.

He died miserably over the 2nd half...1:58? There's nothing to be taken positive from that. It showed he couldn't handle a pace that most of the potential finalists can.

Looks like they are back to "vegan" burritos at BTC.

On a technicality, sure.

Let me rephrase: it's the information that his brain sends out to the muscles, thereby changing the movements that are produced to shift gears or grind it out. He's taught his muscles what's needed to churn at wicked fast paces.

I'm stumped wrote:

Jakob C. Hocker wrote:

Experiencing success increases confidence, even if that experience comes up short on your personal measuring stick. Centro, despite wildly missing the AR, ran faster than he ever had. That third lap 'failure' at world record pace was success for his muscle memory.

Don't sweat it.

He died miserably over the 2nd half...1:58? There's nothing to be taken positive from that. It showed he couldn't handle a pace that most of the potential finalists can.

A 54 opening lap is unsustainable for nearly anyone not named Cheruiyot.

Jakob C. Hocker wrote:

On a technicality, sure.

Let me rephrase: it's the information that his brain sends out to the muscles, thereby changing the movements that are produced to shift gears or grind it out. He's taught his muscles what's needed to churn at wicked fast paces.

WTF?

Dude, he ran one race/TT, that is all it is, doing something once is just that. You don't train anything once.

Stop rationalizing. This was billed as a US record attempt, didn't work out.

So because that didn't work out, Centro is a failure heading to Tokyo?

Jakob C. Hocker wrote:

I'm stumped wrote:

He died miserably over the 2nd half...1:58? There's nothing to be taken positive from that. It showed he couldn't handle a pace that most of the potential finalists can.

A 54 opening lap is unsustainable for nearly anyone not named Cheruiyot.

That's BS. They were paced fast in Monaco and four guys went under 3:30.

Jakob C. Hocker wrote:

So because that didn't work out, Centro is a failure heading to Tokyo?

Of course he's not a failure, but what we're saying is that based on recent performances and races, and the rest ofthe field, his chances weren't great to medal.

After that failed AR attempt it's not really any better.

Take it as a reality check.