Does anybody jog in Vaporfly Next%?

DeBron Lames wrote:

I mow my yard in mine. Big yard, saves about 5 minutes over other shoes.

Brilliant! I bet the grass stains don't even show!

Nike has a head start on this whole wealth tax thing

Archibald 58 wrote:

no_name wrote:

I have much less problems with stiff leg muscles, have less general fatigue and recover faster after workouts.

+1

I use the Zoom Fly rather than the VF, but same positive benefits in my case. Will be trying VFs for the first time next week.

Excited about it, though i gather they won't last as long as the ZF.

My everyday training pair has more than 950 miles on them and still feels very good. I run on asphalt mostly with less than 10% on gravel or trails. Racing pair certainly feels popier but honestly VF keeps better than I expected.

seattle prattle wrote:

Archibald 58 wrote:

+1

I use the Zoom Fly rather than the VF, but same positive benefits in my case. Will be trying VFs for the first time next week.

Excited about it, though i gather they won't last as long as the ZF.

missilesilo wrote:

The scientific reviews of the shoe say that they are of no benefit unless you are running 650 milrs or faster. It requires that speed for your foot to roll over the sole plate and activate the recoil.

What is a milrs?

no_name wrote:

Josh' wrote:

I'm thinking about doing it. Any first-hand experience?

Yes, I do all my runs in VF4% now, including easy recovery runs. Few months ago I injured my foot and had hard time running in non cushioned shoes. I tried running in VF and it was so much more enjoyable that I never stopped afterwards. Now it's been about 4 months and about 900 miles and counting in them. Honestly I can't imagine my training in other shoes anymore. I even purchased few more pairs on discounts when Next% came out.

I thought a major drawback to the shoe was they broke down quickly and couldn't be used but for a few races. Is that not the case?

Devils advocateVF wrote:

if the person running 3:30 ...... can all of a sudden run 3:25 because of these shoes so be it. The great thing about running.....is that 98.5% of the people are only racing against themselves for a good time.

Um, you contradicted yourself there. If they are running for "fun" and "against themselves" then why use an artificial advantage that didn't exist before to knock a coupe mins off their PR ? Their old self, the one they are racing, didn't have that technology. So...they cheated against their old self. They didn't get better conditioned, they didn't run tougher, they didn't prepare better, they didn't eat better, and they didn't perform (under the same conditions) better. They just got a boost from a shoe. Why not just choose a point to point downhill course, get that PR, and save some $. Oh right....the downhill course PR "wouldn't really count."

They aren't doing it for "fun" or to compete "against themselves." They are doing to it beat people and have a shinier # (PR) than before to wave around to the world. And they are getting there simply by handing over some $. And maybe that's fine. But THAT's their motivation.

I have two pairs - one is exclusively for racing and the other is for training runs. The training pair at first was used as racing shoes before I rotated them for training. I wouldn't say that they tend to broke down quickly. I think it depends upon how they are used (what surface). As I run mostly on asphalt they still look good. Of course they have lost quite of the pop and responsiveness but that didn't happen in a flip of a switch. As I mentioned in one of previous replies I have done about 950 miles in my training pair and they still feel good, much more responsive then say brand new out of the box Asics. If I had to choose now to race between my 900+ mile training VF pair or brand new Asics Hyperspeeds 6 I would still choose the VF. And I was a huge Hyperspeeds fan before

hendrick wrote:

no_name wrote:

Yes, I do all my runs in VF4% now, including easy recovery runs. Few months ago I injured my foot and had hard time running in non cushioned shoes. I tried running in VF and it was so much more enjoyable that I never stopped afterwards. Now it's been about 4 months and about 900 miles and counting in them. Honestly I can't imagine my training in other shoes anymore. I even purchased few more pairs on discounts when Next% came out.

I thought a major drawback to the shoe was they broke down quickly and couldn't be used but for a few races. Is that not the case?

DeBron Lames wrote:

I mow my yard in mine. Big yard, saves about 5 minutes over other shoes.

Post of the Week!

I ran 13.5 miles at 7:58 per mile on a treadmill last Saturday in a fresh out of the box pair. Hard to tell how much of a benefit the shoes are going to be. The shoes are super comfortable and light. I would have run outside but we had 16.4 inches of snow Thursday and Friday. Marathon is October 27th so I might know more after jogging/running the marathon.

FM117 wrote:

Monty Hall monitor wrote:

Still working that 'I've got a note from my doctor' ploy?

Yup, now if I get really lucky maybe my insurance company will even

buy me a pair....you might be on to something with that note from

the doctor crap.

BTW....my foot doesn't hurt!

HSA cards work on the Nike website, FYI. Or at least they did for me when the doctor "prescribed" me some lighter weight shoes to help with my plantar issues.

Nike has an entire line of pink shoes, but could have been the Next%.

I wear them while making love. I finish much quicker which allows me to get to sleep sooner.

I did a 2 mile cooldown jog in my Next% (They did not have a bag chec) at around 8:30 pace after running a 1:15 half. They are fine for jogging around in but of course I would primarily save them for races.

[b]Idon't [/b]jog.

I suppose I am just a hobby jogger, according to LRC standards, so I guess most would think that when I run I am jogging.

It does not feel like jogging to me.

I like wearing these shoes because there are other advantages not entirely related to speed.

Bright colors and odd looks make me more visible and attract more attention to me.

When chased by dogs, I have an increased chance of avoiding bites.

They make me appear taller than I am. Chicks dig taller guys. Dogs fear taller people.

Thick midsole elevates me out of shallow puddles.

They don't look good in jeans, but are a great conversation ice breaker and help me talk with women.

They have unique high tech parts and actual numbers (4%!) that I can relate to and share with others.

Being able to afford the very best and most expensive elevates my status.

Not many people are willing to buy and use these for casual wear, so they make me feel unique on the street.

Nothing says "I run" louder than wearing these shoes to the office.

This shoe claims it will make me faster. Other shoes claim they are lighter, more protective, more cushioned, last longer, are more natural, are softer, have better traction, feel better. etc. Those are great but this is the only shoe that will make me faster.

I believe I am faster in these shoes.

Time is money. Who doesn't want to be faster?

When a runner buys what they believe to be the very best shoes, that claim to make them faster, that is taking another step to prepare better.

Its just like warming up better, doing more and better supplemental exercises, buying and eating better food, training better.

One can read things, talks to others, and educate themselves, do things differently, etc. all in an attempt to better prepare with a goal of running faster. If you run faster you have achieved your goal.

If you wear a new wicking shirt (to avoid the chaffed bloody nipples from wearing a cotton shirt in your last race) and you run faster in the wicking shirt, did you cheat yourself when you ran faster?

If you hire a coach, and start paying for regular massages, and set a new 3:49 marathon PR, did you cheat yourself?

If you took PEDs to break 3 hours in the marathon and set a new PR, did you cheat yourself?

If you moved to Park City, trained hard, and then flew to Chicago to break 3:39 in the marathon as a PR, did you cheat yourself?

I have two pairs, they are ok but I prefer the Hoka carbon x better. People do ask me about them, especially high school kids. There not bad for recovery runs. Wore them once to the grocery store since they were right there by the door going out, people sort of looked at them like they were clown shoes.

Did a half in them, but the time wasn’t as good as a half a month before in NB beacons.

Yup, jogged 4 miles this morning in about 8 min / mile pace.

Used to be a 31 min 10km guy and would have been bothered by someone running that slow in $250 shoes but now I don't race and it got me up at 5:15am to run with the guys at 6am. Whatever gets you out the door. They are pretty nice. Wish I had them 20 years ago!