NativeSon wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
None of the Americans are at podium level at this time.
True.
The rest of the world is out there......
Tactics changing, have to be able to finish off a fast pace. Need to be prepared to run two rounds at 3:35, and then run sub-3:30 in the finals. Future is here.
Coevett wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
You know, other than Tim, I'm really happy that my other two faves in that race, Makh and Lewandowski both medaled. Makh spent some time in Iten and everybody seemed to like him.
Hmmm...more evidence that El K is a Polish chav living in Basildon.
Or is just because pretending to be a Polish guy pretending he's not the white guy who had been pretending to be a Kenyan guy, gave you a certain fondness for Polish athletes?
Hahahaha. POD. Funny because it’s true.
crazy glow dopers wrote:
Lewandowski to get gold so Jakob may get silver in the next year or so?? Tim and Makdoofy are obviously going to get busted in the near future.
no way since Jakob's obv dirty too it'll be Lewandowski with Gold, and the two Brits with Silver and Bronze!!!
El Keniano wrote:
NativeSon wrote:
El Keniano,
Karibu!
Long time man!
We are doing mzuri!
Rhonex is a beast in waiting. HE is fearless.
Margaret Chelimo is the next Hellen Obiri. She can kick!
Asante! He really is. And at his age he'll only get better. Very excited for his future.
True.
Even that Kwemoi guy is work in progress. We are with it. I can't wait for Tokyo.
Karibu!
trollism wrote:
NativeSon wrote:
Isn't he being suspected by the IAAF for doping?
Nope.
The winner is though.
Yes, he is. He, both his brothers (training partners), and their dad (coach and instiller of moral compass) are all guilty.
audra wrote:
trollism wrote:
Nope.
The winner is though.
Yes, he is. He, both his brothers (training partners), and their dad (coach and instiller of moral compass) are all guilty.
Uhhh, no? They are certainly not even close to being under suspicion. Now that dirty, fugly kenyan doper has gotta go. Disgusting cheater is absolutely glowing and everyone knows he's gonna go down.
I heard Engels didn't take his TestoMax this morning
audra wrote:
trollism wrote:
Nope.
The winner is though.
Yes, he is. He, both his brothers (training partners), and their dad (coach and instiller of moral compass) are all guilty.
No, the question was suspected by the IAAF, not a random prayer from an African doping apologist.
Kenya on the other hand is known by the IAAF to be a hotbed of cheating, and they've been (in a way in which they try to mitigate the damage) trying to clean them up.
It's not working.
At the start of the race Tim could have run home, planted some potatoes, waited for them to grow, harvested them, thrown a feast, slept it off, and still have enough time to run back to Doha and win.
Can we talk about Josh Kerr, in his first professional track season, he comes out and runs two smart prelims then runs out of his mind to get 6th in the final. Nearly a second PR in a fast race. He ran extremely smart, he sat in the back and then with 600 to go he made smart moves to put himself in contention. Although he couldn't put togther the strongest finish he still made a strong move coming off 300. This race set him up as a real threat moving forward to being a medal contender in next year's Olympics and worlds in the future. The young man has a bright future. Only Brooks competitor in the whole field. THis also proves you do not need to be Nike or Adidas to run well.
Coevett wrote:
fsfii wrote:
Ingebrigtsen to get bronze at some point? Seems like Makh will get busted at some point.
Hopefully - he wont be able to hide away and go full throttle for 3 years with Tokyo in 10 months time.
Tim ran a brilliant and brave race, and I'm happy for him, delighted if he's clean. But let's not forget the ZDF investigation and the Manangoi's mysterious fall from grace this season. If they go down, so does Tim.
Congratulations on Lewandowski for running another PB at 32 years old.
Great run from Wightman who has jumped from 3:34 down to 3:31.
Shame for Ingebritsen to finish outside the medals only managing 3:31.7 when he's been running 3:30 all season looking easy. Must be missing a special ingredient.
Engles not able to maintain his momentum now that NOP are under the watch list.
You can spin anything however you want.
Coevett wrote:
fsfii wrote:
Ingebrigtsen to get bronze at some point? Seems like Makh will get busted at some point.
Hopefully - he wont be able to hide away and go full throttle for 3 years with Tokyo in 10 months time.
Tim ran a brilliant and brave race, and I'm happy for him, delighted if he's clean. But let's not forget the ZDF investigation and the Manangoi's mysterious fall from grace this season. If they go down, so does Tim.
Hi Coevett we all know you are some deep follower of our sport. You might be interested in the medals distribution 800m and up:
East African origin: 11 - 7 - 5
Nort africa : 0 - 1 - 1
Europe: 0 - 1 - 2 (including Ingebrigtsen and Britain: 0 - 0 - 0)
But we all know the reasons: east africans dope heavily (they not even have to train hard) whereas the white Europeans are clean and don't even know how to dope.
trollism wrote:
audra wrote:
Yes, he is. He, both his brothers (training partners), and their dad (coach and instiller of moral compass) are all guilty.
No, the question was suspected by the IAAF, not a random prayer from an African doping apologist.
Kenya on the other hand is known by the IAAF to be a hotbed of cheating, and they've been (in a way in which they try to mitigate the damage) trying to clean them up.
It's not working.
Aww, having a meltdown, aren't we? Take a sleeping pill and the pain won't be as bad in the morning. Or better still, do something cathartic like writing some fan mail to your hero Nigel Farage.
That inge guy is foul, but i am happy with the 5 gold we won. I was really skeptical this year, that we will perform poorly... kipruto injury ridden year, Obiri lost a few races and the resurgence of Sifan, Manangoi injured... two of our 5000m male athletes did not take all three doping tests required to compete, Kamworor wins the kenyan trials but decides not to run in Doha....using the trials as a warm up to his road racing events.......marathon was always going to be a lottery with other athletes having ran faster times..... etc....
correct is
East African origin: 11 - 7 - 7
North Africa : 0 - 1 - 1
Europe: 0 - 1 - 3
USA: 1 -2 - 1
Rest of world: 0 - 0 - 1
can someone explain to me the spikes that these middle distance runners are wearing? it looks like a semi vaporfly but with spikes on the bottom. i thought it was illegal to wear shoes that aren't available to the public market. am i gonna have to wait until the summer olympics before i can get my hands on these? did Nike pay Cheruiyot to attempt the world record while wearing these spikes?
fsfii wrote:
Ingebrigtsen to get bronze at some point? Seems like Makh will get busted at some point.
I’m getting an Eamon Coghlan feeling. He will do something big in his career like a record in an obscure distance or an indoor record but will never be on the podium
Ovettoe wrote:
Hi Coevett we all know you are some deep follower of our sport. You might be interested in the medals distribution 800m and up:
East African origin: 11 - 7 - 5
Nort africa : 0 - 1 - 1
Europe: 0 - 1 - 2 (including Ingebrigtsen and Britain: 0 - 0 - 0)
But we all know the reasons: east africans dope heavily (they not even have to train hard) whereas the white Europeans are clean and don't even know how to dope.
Pretty much. If you have a cheap endurance drug that can gives you 5% improvement over 3K (and that study only looked at the effects of a short course of EPO - imagine the effect on somebody like Kipchoge doping for 20 years, some of those early years full throttle 365) - have little or no testing in a region of 200 million people which has every other advantage to produce international class runners (altitude, trails, climate, lack of obesity etc) - then it's incredible any other country outside that region manages to sniff a medal.
https://www.runnersworld.com/races-places/a20845413/study-kenyans-get-performance-boost-from-epo/The second best part of this video is not seeing a Norwegian flag on the track...
Ovettoe wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Hopefully - he wont be able to hide away and go full throttle for 3 years with Tokyo in 10 months time.
Tim ran a brilliant and brave race, and I'm happy for him, delighted if he's clean. But let's not forget the ZDF investigation and the Manangoi's mysterious fall from grace this season. If they go down, so does Tim.
Hi Coevett we all know you are some deep follower of our sport. You might be interested in the medals distribution 800m and up:
East African origin: 11 - 7 - 5
Nort africa : 0 - 1 - 1
Europe: 0 - 1 - 2 (including Ingebrigtsen and Britain: 0 - 0 - 0)
But we all know the reasons: east africans dope heavily (they not even have to train hard) whereas the white Europeans are clean and don't even know how to dope.
Not really what most of us pay attention to.
What is the medal distribution for males 800 & 1500?
Europe 0-1-1
North Africa 0-1-0
East Africa 1-0-1
Seems only a slight advantage which likely won't last long. Remember, it wasn't long ago when East Africa was winning 2-2-2. Those days are long gone. East Africans see the writing on the wall and will cease to be visible in the key middles distance events.