Was Jenny Simpson herself actually a Dr. Brown patient? Jenny Simpson doesn't deny that she too was a patient of Dr. Brown's

Elvin wrote:

Elvin wrote:

What is the timeline on this? Was Dr. Brown working with NOP at the time Simpson was his patient? Had any of the allegations against him emerged at that point in time?

Could somebody clarify this, please? Yes or no, is the claim being made here that Simpson was a patient of Brown's at a point in time AFTER he became involved in cheating? Or are we criticizing Simpson for not having the foresight to know that the doctor she was seeing would later become unethical?

Stop playing games. There's no way you or anyone else trying to defend Simpson would be willing to make this argument in favor of any of the NOP athletes.

He "treated" Bob Kennedy back in the day so he has been "treating" track athletes for decades.

The only thing that surprises me is that you guys were actually willing to ask here this. Good on you for exposing her hypocrisy. The replies to this thread are just further proof that people hold Salazar and NOP to a higher standard than everyone else.

Get the BBC folks on Jenny Simpson's front door!!!

Interviewer really exposed the hell out of Jenny, great interviewing skills willing to do your research.

jenny is a hypocrite, plain and simple wrote:

Elvin wrote:

Could somebody clarify this, please? Yes or no, is the claim being made here that Simpson was a patient of Brown's at a point in time AFTER he became involved in cheating? Or are we criticizing Simpson for not having the foresight to know that the doctor she was seeing would later become unethical?

Stop playing games. There's no way you or anyone else trying to defend Simpson would be willing to make this argument in favor of any of the NOP athletes.

You are a liar. I have made a number of posts on here since the AlSal decision was released defending his athletes and pointing out that none of them were implicated despite the lengthy investigation.

I am not defending Simpson. I am simply pointing out that more information may be needed before making any judgement at all. Anyone who takes objection to wanting to get all the facts before making a decision is not a good person.

I saw Simpson on Brown's list a year ago. His office is a long flight from most of the athletes so the people defending her should stop. Is obvious he "helped" all these runners. Btw, how did she run a 407 then 4:00 in back to back days? Must be a lot of dr Browns out there.

Nice work, Rojo! For once, you’ve taken an objective approach; after all the years of defending Paula.

jesseriley wrote:

LRC scoops BBC this time.

+1. Nice work brojos! And it seems like those who do a little too much finger wagging (eg Paula and now Jenny) are not quite as innocent as they want everyone to believe.

Elvin wrote:

What is the timeline on this? Was Dr. Brown working with NOP at the time Simpson was his patient? Had any of the allegations against him emerged at that point in time?

He was apparently introduced to NOP by no other than proven liar Kara Goucher

Props to Jonathan Gault for asking her that question. That is real journalism.

Identified wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

LRC scoops BBC this time.

+1. Nice work brojos! And it seems like those who do a little too much finger wagging (eg Paula and now Jenny) are not quite as innocent as they want everyone to believe.

Yes, thank you for asking this question. I had advocated for it on the other thread when recounting Lewis Johnson asking Jenny about using an inhaler. It's time to blow this bullshit wide open and have an open discussion about EVERYONE. It's ridiculous that one group gets skewered for e.g., using TUEs (NOP; ignoring doping allegations for a second) and everyone else who has a TUE is allowed to claim "medical privacy." You want to be an advocate for clean sport, then be transparent and honest, Jenny. Brojos, ask Emma about her alleged thyroid med use. No progress is going to be made until everyone is HONEST about working the gray area.

No she doesn’t! WTF is wrong with you. You’re like the Democrats it’s a different type of racism, sexism, anti Semitic speech when they do it.

Simpson opened up a big can of hypocrisy.

Guys, Jenny is a sick athlete. She has been suffering her whole life with an undisclosed family issue that has severely affected her health as a professional athlete. She's had to be on corticosteroids since high school, using an inhaler every day of her life, allegedly.

Keep asking her these questions. She will be investigated.

Drbrow..... wrote:

Elvin wrote:

What is the timeline on this? Was Dr. Brown working with NOP at the time Simpson was his patient? Had any of the allegations against him emerged at that point in time?

He was apparently introduced to NOP by no other than proven liar Kara Goucher

I thought it was Adam Goucher who introduced Dr. Brown to AlSal and NOP.

Close the TUE Loop hole as of now.

There was some discussion that USATF and IAAF built the loophole and pushed doctor Brown?

It's unethical to the bone. Tie it with allowing all these lame excuses for positives and you have de-facto sponsored doping.

Short term memories wrote:

I don't know that this is some big scoop. I thought I read on these boards that the CO coach (Wetmore) had a relationship with Dr. Brown. Likewise all Nike athletes including Schumacher's probably were required to have a visit. The better scoop would be figuring out top athletes that have never seen him. And as a previous posted noted it matters more if they received treatment (Rx / injections/ etc.) vs just saw him for a consult.

1. Why do Portland, OR athletes have to travel to Houston, TX to see a doctor? Is there not an endocrinologist in Portland?

2. If USADA has banned Dr. Jeffrey Brown, why hasn't AMA?

3. His website advertises treating Olympic athletes.

4. How many TUE's has Dr. Jeffrey Brown prescribed to elite athletes over the years?

5. Does every elite athlete have thyroid issues?

The Treater wrote:

He "treated" Bob Kennedy back in the day so he has been "treating" track athletes for decades.

Believe he "treated" Alberto Saladbar before 1984 Olympics.

ShutItDown wrote:

Close the TUE Loop hole as of now.

There was some discussion that USATF and IAAF built the loophole and pushed doctor Brown?

It's unethical to the bone. Tie it with allowing all these lame excuses for positives and you have de-facto sponsored doping.

+1. And what about the cheater spikes loophole Coe has done nothing about. Or nation jumping. Or...........