Official thread to discuss moderation policies

good suggestions wrote:

Identify your moderators. Make it part of their handle.

When something is deleted or removed, it should state who did it and the time.

That way there is actual a public record of the deletion and no more of this arguing over "Malmo deleted my post because I disagreed with him" and then Malmo denying it.

These are excellent ideas.

Start by naming all moderators and have their usernames indicate that they are moderators

Gravy_the_real_one1 wrote:

I'd also like to know your policy for banning registered users who stick to pertinent and civil discussions on running and elite runners.

This shouldn't happen. People used to get banned by accident fairly often (ie back in the day when we'd ban AOL) but it shouldn't happen now.

Do you have any accountability for your moderators? Any quality assurance? Any monthly skype calls?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

How about a rule that mods and brojos arent allowed to post anonymously, only with their registered name? We would have to trust you follow it, but it seems like a legitimate thing to implement.

how about people who create threads under registed usernames have the ability to moderate their own thread?

what are you talking about? wrote:

Vermont FTW wrote:

No, HolterSkolter is right, Hardloper.

Me and my brother in law have both complained about malmo's deletions and had our posts deleted. That's two more for you.

And why are you talking about his ped use? We are talking about him vandalizing threads where he is invloved, like the jamin one. I have posted there to talk about jamin's approach, in the process disagreeing with something malmo said, and my post got deleted.

So chill and let us voice our concerns about an immoderate moderator.

No, it gets sick and tiring of people spamming thread after thread just because they have some kind of beef with Malmo. Get over it, stop acting childish.

That's your opinion. That's fine and I respect it. Mine is different.

Cellphonebrah wrote:

Again, it takes 10 seconds to change ips and clear cookies on a cell phone.

And trolls on this site are mostly trolling out of anger against the mods. Fix the issue and the troll count drops a lot.

Actually you are one of the only people who does this. You have posted FIFTEEN times in this thread already under different names (some the same). That to me is a bit nuts.

I have said not to make this just about malmo or one moderator and to email me, yet you keep posting under different names saying versions of the same thing. I'd argue that is a problem.

So, I just want to reiterate that this is why it is a good idea to identify your moderators and have a record of when a post is deleted and who did it.

I have seen dozens of threads where you or Rojo disagree directly with Malmo's moderating decisions. When it is brought up that you should have him follow your standards the answer always seems to be that you can't set standards and have you moderators follow them. I'm not sure if that is because it is too hard? Or because you don't do an adequate job logging the deletions? More transparency would really, really help with this.

I'm not sure why so much of this falls on Malmo, except he is the only moderator that most people know of that is not an employee. Or maybe because he is the only one that seems to eliminate things just because he agreed with him? Not sure.

It certainly seems as though there are certain posters here who are protected or treated with kid gloves. Not sure if that is because they are moderators, or they are friends with moderators?

Do you track which moderators delete which threads and for what reason? I think that should be done in a public manner, but if you are failing to do it at all that is a big issue. I have moderated message boards, facebook groups, etc. In all of those my deletions or edits are logged and I have to put a reason for any action I've taken.

wejo wrote:

And the vast, vast majority of posters are positive contributors. I'd say it's less than .1% of the posters who cause the most trouble.

That's one of the funniest things that I've ever seen posted on here.

wejo wrote:

Cellphonebrah wrote:

Again, it takes 10 seconds to change ips and clear cookies on a cell phone.

And trolls on this site are mostly trolling out of anger against the mods. Fix the issue and the troll count drops a lot.

Actually you are one of the only people who does this. You have posted FIFTEEN times in this thread already under different names (some the same). That to me is a bit nuts.

I have said not to make this just about malmo or one moderator and to email me, yet you keep posting under different names saying versions of the same thing. I'd argue that is a problem.

This thread is going registered users only to stop the poster above. Apparently some of our anti-spam measures aren't working.

can I moderate my own thread wrote:

how about people who create threads under registed usernames have the ability to moderate their own thread?

That's a great one, which should be the case on all internet forums.

Sailerman wrote:

bravie wrote:

probably referring to other threads then

No. My post was deleted in this thread. My guess is because I used a 5 letter nickname that starts with the letter M.

I can look at the list of deleted posts for each thread and there were none for this thread at the time. Maybe yours was the post that Weldon said he restored (the one that mentions the TOS)? If so, it was deleted and restored before I made my reply.

wejo wrote:

wejo wrote:

Actually you are one of the only people who does this. You have posted FIFTEEN times in this thread already under different names (some the same). That to me is a bit nuts.

I have said not to make this just about malmo or one moderator and to email me, yet you keep posting under different names saying versions of the same thing. I'd argue that is a problem.

This thread is going registered users only to stop the poster above. Apparently some of our anti-spam measures aren't working.

Kind of interesting because this brings up the whole registered vs unregistered debate.

A few things since you can't read every thread and post.

1. Hire more moderators(perhaps me?).

2. Give people who start threads under registered handles have the ability to moderate their own thread and choose the ability to have only registered people reply.

3. People who spam thread after thread with the same nonsense, be given a timeout where they can only post under a registered handle for a week.

Just a few ideas.

Racket wrote:

This is my favorite one. "Don't dox others. However, if you hurt our feelings, we'll totally dox you for a sweet zinger and message board points!"

I thought about this one when we updated our TOS. We value anonymity but it is not 100% sacrosanct. I can't guarantee it that your identity won't be exposed.

I can't think of a time when we've exposed someone's actual identity or exactly why we would do it but I think there are times we might if the right sort of circumstances arose. So instead of saying your anonymity is guarantee absent a court order I wrote it as above.

For example, a major American pro was being harassed on here and reached out trying to find out who the posts were from. This wasn't just stuff saying the pro wasn't any good. It more than crossed a line. It was consistent and abusive. In an instance like that I might reveal the person's identity if I could determine who it was and say they were prominent in the running community. However, it is very hard to figure out so the IP information remained private.

We do from time to time point out when someone is posting anonymously under different handles that it is the same person but I wouldn't call that doxing as their personal info isn't being revealed.

Off topic: Wejo, while you're here. Did you get my email over Hoka?

BergLaufer wrote:

Off topic: Wejo, while you're here. Did you get my email over Hoka?

Yes but I didn't email them until yesterday. Shoes should be on way this week.

wejo wrote:

BergLaufer wrote:

Off topic: Wejo, while you're here. Did you get my email over Hoka?

Yes but I didn't email them until yesterday. Shoes should be on way this week.

OK, thanks.