Top 10 D3 Marathon times

Bob Hodge 2:10:59.

Stuart Jenkins (Principia) 2:19.00.

loblaw wrote:

Dan Held (UWEC) ran 2:13:50 at Boston in 1994

He was NAIA until I believe his last year or two of college. Pretty monster post-collegiate career.

Yup. I believe he ran 13:41 or 3:41 also. He was a very good runner. I had the honor of beating him at Nationals. He ran some great times post UWEC. I also heard he worked full time when he ran 2:13

Pretty sure Lowell was D2 when Bob Hodge (and Vin Fleming) ran there. Lowell is now D1 and current runner Paul Hogan looked good tonight in Jax, advancing to ncaa 10k finals.

Runnery wrote:

Pretty sure Lowell was D2 when Bob Hodge (and Vin Fleming) ran there. Lowell is now D1 and current runner Paul Hogan looked good tonight in Jax, advancing to ncaa 10k finals.

Nope. Lowell was D3 then. Fleming won D3 XC in 1975, and Hodge was 2nd in 1976.

Runnery wrote:

Pretty sure Lowell was D2 when Bob Hodge (and Vin Fleming) ran there. Lowell is now D1 and current runner Paul Hogan looked good tonight in Jax, advancing to ncaa 10k finals.

I believe it was called the University of Lowell (or Lowell University) back then, and it was D3. In 1976, Bob Hodge finished second in the NCAA Division III 10,000 meters behind Brandeis's Brian Reinhold, who later ran 2:19:22 at the 1983 Boston marathon (narrowly missing the Olympic trials qualifying standard of 2:19:04). Vinny Fleming ran 2:18:37 at the 1977 Boston marathon.

baby marathoner wrote:

Runnery wrote:

Pretty sure Lowell was D2 when Bob Hodge (and Vin Fleming) ran there. Lowell is now D1 and current runner Paul Hogan looked good tonight in Jax, advancing to ncaa 10k finals.

Nope. Lowell was D3 then. Fleming won D3 XC in 1975, and Hodge was 2nd in 1976.

You beat me to it. :)

It seems like we are pretty close to answering the original question. Here's what we have compiled so far (cutting it off at sub 2:16):

1. Bill Rogers (Wesleyan University) 2:09:27*

2. Bob Hodge (Lowell) 2:10:59

3. Tom Fleming (William Patterson) 2:12:06*

4. Mark Conover (Humboldt St.) 2:12:26

5. Malcolm Richards (St. Olaf) 2:13:29

6. Danny Grimes (Humboldt St.) 2:13:37

7. Ricky Flynn (Lynchburg) 2:13:41

8. Patrick Rizzo (North Central) 2:13:42

9. Dan Held (UW Eau Claire) 2:13:50

10. Frank Richardson (MIT) 2:14:04

11. Mike Morgan (Nebraska Wesleyan)- 2:14:22

12. Ryan Bak (Trinity College) 2:14:27

13. Amby Burfoot (Wesleyan University) 2:14:28*

14. Chad Johnson (UWSP) 2:15:03

15. Ben Sathre (St Thomas) 2:15:06

16. Todd Reeser (Rochester) 2:15:11

17. Kevin Collins (RIT) - 2:15:32

18. John Crain (North Central) 2:15:46

*ran at current D3 school prior to creation of D3

Brian Sell (2:10:47) ran his freshman year at Messiah before transferring to Division 1 St. Francis. Chuck Smead (2:13:47) ran at Humboldt before Division 3 existed and Humboldt moved to D2 so unlike Conover and Grimes he did not really have a connection to D3.

more times. wrote:

It seems like we are pretty close to answering the original question. Here's what we have compiled so far (cutting it off at sub 2:16)

I'm not so sure. I haven't tried to come up with a comprehensive list of current or former D3 students with marathon times under any particular cut-off -- whether 2:16 or anything else -- but I have no problem coming up with more names of D3 students who have, at some point in their lives, run sub-2:20 marathons on record-quality courses. (If one were to include times on point-to-point courses like CIM, Boston, and Grandma's, I would have guessed that there were at least a couple hundred former D3 students who have run under 2:20, including some who wouldn't show up on lists restricted to U.S. runners. But I don't know; maybe I've overestimated their numbers. Most that I would recognize were college students in the 1970s and 1980s.)

You forgot that crazy nutcase Jason Mayeroff

2:18:27, Centre College

Last year at Grandma's Adam Dalton (Grinnell College) ran 2:18:52. I believe he was around a 15:00 guy who improved tremendously within just a couple of years of graduating.

Isn't Harvard and most Ivy League schools Division III?

Humboldt also had another pretty good couple of guys, Bill Scobey and Gary Tuttle

Avocado's Number wrote:

Runnery wrote:

Pretty sure Lowell was D2 when Bob Hodge (and Vin Fleming) ran there. Lowell is now D1 and current runner Paul Hogan looked good tonight in Jax, advancing to ncaa 10k finals.

I believe it was called the University of Lowell (or Lowell University) back then, and it was D3. In 1976, Bob Hodge finished second in the NCAA Division III 10,000 meters behind Brandeis's Brian Reinhold, who later ran 2:19:22 at the 1983 Boston marathon (narrowly missing the Olympic trials qualifying standard of 2:19:04). Vinny Fleming ran 2:18:37 at the 1977 Boston marathon.

Do you remember what the times were back in that era?

Bowdoin wrote:

Joan Benoit 2:21

Adding one more on the women's side, Gwyn Coogan (Smith College) ran 2:32:50 in 1995 (and was national champion in the marathon in 1998).

2:10 & maximum change.

Smoove wrote:

Avocado's Number wrote:

I believe it was called the University of Lowell (or Lowell University) back then, and it was D3. In 1976, Bob Hodge finished second in the NCAA Division III 10,000 meters behind Brandeis's Brian Reinhold, who later ran 2:19:22 at the 1983 Boston marathon (narrowly missing the Olympic trials qualifying standard of 2:19:04). Vinny Fleming ran 2:18:37 at the 1977 Boston marathon.

Do you remember what the times were back in that era?

this page has a history of championships going back to 1974

Smoove wrote:

Reeser was running at Rochester at the same time Collins was at RIT and I was t Albany - he came in at the tail end of our tenures. Reeser was a very good runner, although I am not sure any Rochester guys really fall into the blue collar category. Those early 90s Rochester teams were deep with lots of talent.

It was tough running for UR in the late 90s and early 00s. The coach left and the school increased their academic entry standards so we couldn't recruit runners very well.

Always felt like we were letting the guys from the 90s down.

Reeser was still training when I started at Rochester (we saw him running in the pool a lot, as he definitely was fighting injuries a good bit).

Division I wrote:

Isn't Harvard and most Ivy League schools Division III?

No, the Ivy League is just non-athletic scholarship. They still compete in division I.

I also think that you have to pull Rodgers from the list, as there wasn't even a DIII back then.