Tinmen held their own against the big dogs at Payton Jordan

wunderbread wrote:

For real. Solid showings in the 5000 for sure.

Please tell me about everything they are doing wrong, though.

Who honestly thinks what they are doing is wrong? Do people think that? I don't think that, but I do think the training they do isn't anything special. Critical velocity is a buzz word for training correctly.

Thanks, you're right. Looked it up and he was 3rd in the 2nd heat in 13:49.

Jdjdfjdj wrote:

The Floyd wrote:

I was at the meet and they announced it was Hunter's 5000 debut. An impressive debut for him.

False. Not his debut. He ran Payton Jordan in 2017. 13:49 or so.

Right you are. I was scanning a lot of results and messed up there.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

Hunter is the first example we have of someone using Tinman-training for a long time (since early HS). Tinman repeatedly said in the US at any given year there are at least 50 Hunter's out there, kids with the same talent. But they get a random HS coach that either burns them out or does whatever with them.

There are no wonders in the world of running. He just started coaching most Tinman elites around 1 year ago, some a bit less some a bit more. His training system maximizes long-term development and peak performance, we will likely see more results after he had sufficient time (e.g. 5 years) to work with his athletes.

A comparison to the first runner using Salazar training for a long time (since early HS) would be interesting.

Gimme a break wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Hunter has been a little dissapointing. There have been other American-born runners that did, or could have, run 13:21 as a 21-year old.

So you only would have been impressed if he'd run faster in this race than any other American 21 year old ever had?

As an aside, it would be interesting to see how many American 21 year olds have run faster that 13:21. Anyone have access to a list of something like that? "Could have" doesn't count either.

Only josh mcdougal has run faster as a 21yo American. Sdsu dude is significantly out of touch with reality, or just isn't educated.