Dutch Press ?: Is the IAAF Actively Trying To Reduce African Dominace?

It is a classic case of cutting off the nose to spite the face of which Lord Sebastian Coe, a conservative British protege of the terrible Margaret Thatcher, is director. People here seem offended that we’re referring to racially motivated acts as ‘racist’, but isn’t that the literal definition of the word? Isn’t Coe’s political background, and the fact that he’s opted to champion policies that specifically target and discriminate against African runners because Westerners are unable to compete evidence enough? Would anyone at this point in history deny that right wing politics, largely fuelled by racism, have been resurgent across almost every single Western country, encouraged by national antipathies towards ‘others’ (typically foreigners) and that we could be witnessing the beginnings of its manifestations in the sporting world with the IAAF being the first major sports body to work towards narrowing its audience, instead of looking to expand, by pandering to the part of the public most averse to seeing Africans on their TV screens?

And for the posters here, the fact that resident and acknowledged LRC racist trolls like Coevett, Trollism and many others, registered and unregistered, are rejoicing at the removal of the part of the sport most responsible for the existence of this site should tell you all you need to know. We’re living in very interesting times where racists are again emboldened to show their true face. I can’t wait to see how it plays out.

There were several marathons held all over the world over the weekend.

We won ALL of them. By all, I am talking about AFrica, narrowed down, East Africa, PRECISELY Ethiopia and Kenya.

1. Rotterdam Marathon.

Marius Kipserem: 2:04.11.

Ashete Bekere 2:22.55

2. Milan Marathon

Titus Ekiru:-2:04.46

Vivian Kiplagat:- 2:22.25

3. Vienna Marathon

Vincent Kipchumba:-2:06.56

Nancy Kiprop:-2:22.12

4. Daegu Marathon

Felix Kipchirchir:-2:05.33

Pamela Rotich:-2:28.10

5. Rome Marathon

Tebalu Zawude:- 2:08:37

Mergetu Alemu:-2:22.52

6. Hanover Marathon

Silas Mwetich 2:09.37 (The guy is only 22).

RAcheal Mutgaa:-2:26.15

We also had half marathons.

Again, we dominated.

1. Berlin Half

William WAnjiku:-1:01.00

Sifan Hassan (NED) 1:05.55

2. Madrid Half

Kipkemoi Kiprono:-1:01.47

Tigist Teshome:-1:10.08

3. Prague Half

Bernard Kimeli:-59.07 (The guy is only 23).

Caroline Chepkoech Kipkirui:-1:05.44

4. Kyiv Half (Ukraine)

Bernard Sang:-1;03.42

Daisy Jeptoo Kimeli:-1:10-.53

5. Istanbul Half

Bernard Ng'eno:-59.56

Ruth Chepng'etich:-1:05.30

Also

1. Carlsbad 5000

Edward Cheserek:-13:29

Sharon Lokedi:-15.48

2. Cherry Blossom Ten Mile

Jemal Yimer:-45:36

Rosemary Wanjiru:-50:42

Course records were plenty too.

What about sprints? They aren't considering cutting those events even though they are dominated by African Americans and Jamaicans? So the IAAF is only racist toward East Africans?

I can understand why anyone would want us banned.

Two weeks ago, it was the same thing in the World Cross Country Championship.

Next Monday (April 15) is Boston Marathon.

April 14, 2019:-Paris Marathon.

April 28, 2019:- London Marathon.

No matter what, we have our collective eye fixed on the prize.

Twende kazi!

Please! The IAAF Vice President before Coe became president was Coe. Who had more sway on the distance running in the premier IAAF events' series?

TeamJamacia wrote:

What about sprints? They aren't considering cutting those events even though they are dominated by African Americans and Jamaicans? So the IAAF is only racist toward East Africans?

Read this New York Times article about how Kipchoge Keino’s victory over Jim Ryun at the Olympics in 1968 changed mid/distance running for context. This part, especially, jumps out:

“Keino won by 20 meters, the widest margin of victory in that event in Olympic history.

“My older brother and I were watching it and we were going crazy,” Thompson said. “Jim Ryun at the time was the world-record holder and the golden boy. It would be the equivalent of an African guy coming here and beating Michael Phelps in a couple races. He broke all of the stereotypes.”

The prevailing wisdom was that middle- and long-distance running was a cornerstone of Anglo-Saxon athletic dominance. The sprints, so the stereotype went, required only raw natural talent, but distance races were cerebral and required grit and stamina, focus and organization. What impressed the 10-year-old Thompson as much as the victory was Keino’s show of compassion, not simply sportsmanship, toward Ryun, who was devastated by the loss”.

I think you have your answer.

The 5 and 10 are too long for the world to watch, but entire marathons are televised?

Diack was "protecting" East African dominance by not policing doping, or was he soliciting East African monetary assistance for his own family fortune, in return for not policing doping? We know that he was extorting at least one Olympic gold medal winner, the Turkish doper in London 2012. What role did Coe have in all that? See no evil, hear no evil, say no evil, right?

What do you think will happen with road races and big city marathons, NativeSon? Change eligibility rules to make them more local or regional?

zxcvzxvc wrote:

Please! The IAAF Vice President before Coe became president was Coe. Who had more sway on the distance running in the premier IAAF events' series?

Bravo ?? And that didn’t come easy, believe me.

Suuuure, you dumb racist. and your super Kip Keino was destroyed by Pekka Vasala in the following Olympics. That's where Kenyans belong. Sometimes winning, sometimes losing. You're nothing special. The only thing you and your east african brethren have now is access to dope and hide out in the serengeti.

It's great that there is clamp down starting on your farce.

Only reason Jim lost that is because it was at high altitude - Mexico City. The kind of altitude Keino is familiar with.

Anyone with half a brain would realize this.

Coevett wrote:

Africa banned from the sport for a few years would result in an influx of talent from elsewhere.

This, right here ^ , is the dumbest non sequitur man has ever given.

Coevett, I know you are dumb. What I didn't know is that you are this dense. Lord help us.

The IAAF will be faced with the ignominy of presenting a sport wherein the public is fully aware that the best have been politically excluded. This may prove counterproductive as it is difficult to muster enthusiasm for tepid performances and substandard competition.

El Keniano wrote:

What do you think will happen with road races and big city marathons, NativeSon? Change eligibility rules to make them more local or regional?

It is very worrying. IT is not out of the realms of possibility that it could happen in a few places.........perhaps as a test run. Utrecht did it by giving their (Dutch) runners a stimulus package of I think 10,000 bucks while giving Africans a paltry $100. I don't know how they've stimulated their latent talent since then. I'd love to know how the Dutch are doing.

NativeSon wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

What do you think will happen with road races and big city marathons, NativeSon? Change eligibility rules to make them more local or regional?

It is very worrying. IT is not out of the realms of possibility that it could happen in a few places.........perhaps as a test run. Utrecht did it by giving their (Dutch) runners a stimulus package of I think 10,000 bucks while giving Africans a paltry $100. I don't know how they've stimulated their latent talent since then. I'd love to know how the Dutch are doing.

They’ll have to to come to terms with the fact that while Europe and North America may have most of the money, East Africa has most of the talent. The market will prevail.

This is a guy who has repeatedly called for ALL FOREIGNERS TO BE KICKED OUT OF KENYA, including above all Ethiopians ('good for nothings'), Chinese ('disrespectful'), and Nigerians ('cause most of the crime'). Not sure though that he actually wants the Ethiopian and Nigerian problems solved by genocide, as he'd like to solve the problem of 'white colonials' that still live in Kenya.

And I haven't actually said that I agree with the decision to drop the 5000m. It also seems odd that you're claiming the decision is obviously racist when the 5000m potentially has its first white superstar for decades in Jakob, and by your own admission, even the top Kenyan runners like Ruto are 'nobodies'. Well at least when they get popped you claim that.

El Keniano wrote:

NativeSon wrote:

It is very worrying. IT is not out of the realms of possibility that it could happen in a few places.........perhaps as a test run. Utrecht did it by giving their (Dutch) runners a stimulus package of I think 10,000 bucks while giving Africans a paltry $100. I don't know how they've stimulated their latent talent since then. I'd love to know how the Dutch are doing.

They’ll have to to come to terms with the fact that while Europe and North America may have most of the money, East Africa has most of the talent. The market will prevail.

True. If you don't pay East African runners the same, how will they be able to afford their EPO?

A link of me making such disgusting xenophobic comments about fellow African brothers, please. No one believes your lies.

And if you knew anything about Kenya, you’d know that despite our problems which include tribalism, we just don’t do xenophobia. The only time locals have galvanised against a foreign population was the hated British colonialists.

I've got work to do this morning, but here's just a foretaste of some of the right-wing views you've expressed here repeatedly :

Draconian Government rules with strict controls on foreigners. Kenya is a free-for-all that allows everyone into the country. There’s such a thing as too much freedom.

There was one thread where you got into a discussion with a 'fellow' Kenyan who was quite explicit in blaming Ethiopians and Nigerians for all the crime and other problems in Kenya and you clearly agreed with him and again stated your belief that there are too many foreigners in 'your' country. Can't find it yet, maybe it's been deleted. See also :