Halviking wrote:
Must be hard to be an American middle distance fan these days. So many angry people and so much hate against the Ingebrigtsens.
Ingy was at fault. Good DQ plus the video gave us a shot of the beautiful KJT as a bonus. It's been a good day on LR.
Halviking wrote:
Kind of funny that the Swedish commentators are saying that he stepped outside due to being pushed. But of course, grumpy Americans are playing the "you have to follow the rules" card.
Must be hard to be an American middle distance fan these days. So many angry people and so much hate against the Ingebrigtsens.
Ta dere en bolle, as we Norwegians would say
I mean, maybe technically he was pushed. But he tried to force his way in on the inside when there was no room so the guy in the orange top pushed back against Ingebrigten who was essentially pushing him out of the way. Also, this wasn't something that could be attributed to racing. Ingebrigten clearly tried to move in with no room.
You know what they say, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Filip was stupid here
Halviking wrote:
Always interesting to poke fun at American fans.
They always take the bait.
I’m half Norwegian so I guess the joke is on you!
Halviking wrote:
Norwegian.
But I just moved back to Norway after 15 years in Seattle.
So I know both countries, and I love both countries.
I see. Good choice, btw.
Stupid move on Ingebrigtsen's part. Why take a chance like than in a prelim?
Freddrixksen wrote:
distant observer wrote:
Not a good look for the Team Inga. Looked like it was mostly Fillip's fault, trying to squeeze thru on the inside with no room.
IMO they need to walk it back a bit and be a bit more diplomatic after the anger subsides.
Agreed. That’s a DQ all day long. The old man sounds like an arrogant fool
If he was African you'd be taking up his cause wailing about the horrible officials. Period.
I'm actually on Filip's side in this case, even though he ran unintelligently, getting himself boxed multiple times for no reason in a slow race. He was pushed a number of times, which you can see if you look at the replay. He goes out only when he is pushed. He should not have been trying to go through at that point, of course, but he was pushed and the guy was keeping him out by holding his arm out against Filip the whole time.
no comprende wrote:
Lol. I don't think they have anything to worry about since they're likely not on anything illegal. On the other hand, all of Ethiopia and Kenya do.
Well one of them made it onto the infamous IAAF list of most suspicious drug cheats... I suppose they do pretty much everything together.
#Glasgow2019 didn’t have to, but chose to go through with the disqualification of Filip.
Yep , the "optional" decision to DQ someone.
reviewed the tape.
no DQ
the result of the so called foul was did not affect the result.
the so called foul, was not intentional
the so called foul did not gain the runner an advantage, but it might be a slight disadvantage.
on, a DQ needs to be within the spirit of the rules.
no you don't throw people out in any sport for the most minor of violations, if indeed that was a violation.
no, no. no.
take the ref's name, ban him. take the supervisor's name. ban him.
if I were Jacob, and I was winning the 1500 handily, i'd step off the track just before the finish and jump back on.
there you go. DQ me, and they youd get the 11, to index fingers. to stick up the xxxasxxx of team DQ,
I treasure the day where a whole heat of runners will get the DQ, which nearly happened last year.
Halviking wrote:
Kind of funny that the Swedish commentators are saying that he stepped outside due to being pushed. But of course, grumpy Americans are playing the "you have to follow the rules" card.
My DNA says I'm 49.9% Scandinavian, mostly likely Viking, and it's clear to me he tried to pass on the inside. He can't do that. Gjert is a Gjerk.
malmo wrote:
Halviking wrote:
Kind of funny that the Swedish commentators are saying that he stepped outside due to being pushed. But of course, grumpy Americans are playing the "you have to follow the rules" card.
My DNA says I'm 49.9% Scandinavian, mostly likely Viking, and it's clear to me he tried to pass on the inside. He can't do that. Gjert is a Gjerk.
malmo getting all salty because Gjert did not start Jakob with the SOM.
Nick Willis tweeted that he thought it should be a DQ and that he has been DQed for that same reason.
Good enough for me.
1600m506pr:-/ wrote:
Nick Willis tweeted that he thought it should be a DQ and that he has been DQed for that same reason.
Good enough for me.
Happened to Robby Andrews at Rio when he was in the shape of his life. Tempted into a hole that closed. Plenty of gas, nowhere to run but inside the rail.
Willis may not have gotten his bronze if Andrews was in that final.
Freddrixksen wrote:
distant observer wrote:
Not a good look for the Team Inga. Looked like it was mostly Fillip's fault, trying to squeeze thru on the inside with no room.
IMO they need to walk it back a bit and be a bit more diplomatic after the anger subsides.
Agreed. That’s a DQ all day long. The old man sounds like an arrogant fool
He's no fool when it comes to training his sons
Have to support your athlete and child. It was close. They could have let it go to see if anyone protested. It certainly would have made the final more exciting. The 3k was great including the interviews. All 3 guys seemed happy with the result.
George Smith wrote:
Being a Canadian where half the year is indoor racing and I have raced indoors here from 1968-1996 at the highest levels, I took a real long look and many replays to sort out who if any is guilty.
First, Felipe was sucked into a trap that I sprung many times over my career. When running in lane one I always left enough of a space so that any runner who was not wise might be tempted to go inside me. That seems to be the case here. Pilip got sucked in and Pilip then tried to go through and the runner closed the lane to him to avoid any chance to be passed on the inside. "The cardinal rule I learned and taught my athletes, never ever get passed on the inside if you are controlling the lane, but always tempt guys to try and then shut the hole, forcing them to jam on the brakes or run inside the lane and be disqualified."
So Filip was stupid and the other guy was smart. But Filip still tried to get thru and the video shows the other athlete was actually backing off the line and give Filip a chance to get through. Whether this was respect for Filip or just wanting to avoid contact that might cause him not to qualify, I do not know.
I do know that the real villain was neither. It was the guy in lane two who approaching to curve went to save ground and came over 1/2 a lane into the middle of lane one taking the options of both runners and the other runner had no option but to put Filip off the track. Many runners bully there way into lane one and that is what happened here.
I can tell you that no one ever tried that once than on me. I would take a step out and solid plant and he would be on his nose as he tripped over my foot or I would give him a push with enough force that he could not maintain the extra speed and he would tumbled off track and into the first row of stands. It was the Canadian Indoor T&F Championships and there is film of it and yes I got DQ'd and he got DQ'd. But a lot of bully runners stopped trying to cut it too soon to save distance.
Interesting that you manage to spell the name "Filip" in three different ways, when the name is right there in the title.
Good DQ. I'm thinking ahout what led up to it. Gave up the lead. Refused to run wide to get it back. Even when he's the best runner in the field. Took a gamble and lost.
Obvious DQ. There was no room to pass heading into the curve. The runner in front of him defended his position as Filip tried to force his way through on the inside of the lane.
I generally root for the Ingebrigtsens, but this is a serious case of Gjert wearing his Dad goggles.