4:39 is 2:01:55 pace. What he meant was ~4:41 pace (4:40.98) through 25.2 and the lifts the pace to 4;39 to record 2:02:45.
4:39 is 2:01:55 pace. What he meant was ~4:41 pace (4:40.98) through 25.2 and the lifts the pace to 4;39 to record 2:02:45.
runhills wrote:
Yes! The weather looks great on race day and Kipchoge is in top shape. 2:02:48!!
Dewpoint in the mid 40s and clouds.
Sounds good to me.
http://findmymarathon.com/weather/berlin-marathon-weather.phpYes.
I predict 2:02:31.
I think he will, even with the bad weather. He ran 2:00:25 with every advantage in the world....fine, that was "assisted". Say the pacers/lead car/assistance with getting gels/water was a minute and 30 second advantage....in "real world" marathon terms, it was maybe the equivalent of a 2:01:55 marathon, at worst. Now, say he's a BETTER runner in September 2018 than he was in May 2017.....maybe he's now capable of a 2:01:30 or so in a "real"marathon. Add the late-race warm weather on Sunday, and if it slows him down by no more than 1:26 he's got the record. So I say yes, he'll get the record, but not by much.
Anybody know what happened to Guye Adola? He looked like the most amazing new-comer ever.
Hoping for a WR wrote:
Why is Berlin earlier than usual this year? Not that it would make a difference for the weather, it looks like next weekend might be even hotter than this weekend.
It is actually two weeks earlier than the customary last weekend of september. The reason is that the 30th this year would have been too close to the German National holiday on October, 3rd because they need to prepare stages or whatever in parts of the city where the Marathon is run and apparently they need more than two days for this work.
runnerdave wrote:
Anybody know what happened to Guye Adola? He looked like the most amazing new-comer ever.
He will run the Frankfurt Marathon on October 28th.
The weather looks good. Maybe not super ideal, but it's not as hot as the article says on let's run.com
I don't know if Kipchoge can do it. In all his races, as soon as the pacers leave, he has trouble keeping the WR pace.
Last year, he could've lost if Adola didn't skip his last drink, but we'll never know.
I'm hoping he breaks the record ... he deserves an official record.
elites have been seen using a next-generation prototype version of the vaporfly, lighter and more streamlined, so for all we know it's 6% by now - keep that in mind when comparing WR before 2016
Les wrote:If I beat you in a mile 9 times out of 10, but your PR is 3:59 while mine is 4:00, are you honestly going to claim to be the better athlete?
I would. That's what's great about running. There's no debate over who is better. It's the guy who is faster.
musclessfitness wrote:
The weather looks good. Maybe not super ideal, but it's not as hot as the article says on let's run.com
I don't know if Kipchoge can do it. In all his races, as soon as the pacers leave, he has trouble keeping the WR pace.
Last year, he could've lost if Adola didn't skip his last drink, but we'll never know.
I'm hoping he breaks the record ... he deserves an official record.
Thank you for saying what nobody else ever does: As soon as pacers are gone, Kipchoge slows.
i hope so.
i'd rather see him with the record than kimetto
but no, he won't get it
No WR. Made a bunch of attempts and missed every time for various reasons. Suggests he needs things perfect to succeed, and the chances of that happening are low. Needs cooler weather and for one of the pacesetters to have a Byeresque day.
UA Runner wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
The last 6 men's WRs have all been set in Berlin. Can the greatest marathoner ever make it #7?
Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever? People have short memories. Breaking2 not withstanding, he has the third best marathon of all time. And one could argue that he is so dominant now mainly because the competition isn't as strong. Bekele, Kipsang, Kimetto are getting past their prime. Who else is there? A random Guye Adola almost beat Kipchoge last year at Berlin in his first marathon ever.
One could argue that Kipsang's nearly solo 2:03 in Tokyo, or Geoffrey Mutai's 2:05.05 at NYC were more impressive than a handful of non record setting performances at London and Berlin. Kimetto's 2:03 in Chicago.. all are performances that are unmatched.
Had Breaking2 not happened, not sure Kipchoge would have nearly the hype.
"Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever?"
Nike told them. That's why. You'd be surprised how many "Breaking 2" fans there are that run 10 miles a week and spout off their opinions about running.
He's actually 43 wrote:
UA Runner wrote:
Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever? People have short memories. Breaking2 not withstanding, he has the third best marathon of all time. And one could argue that he is so dominant now mainly because the competition isn't as strong. Bekele, Kipsang, Kimetto are getting past their prime. Who else is there? A random Guye Adola almost beat Kipchoge last year at Berlin in his first marathon ever.
One could argue that Kipsang's nearly solo 2:03 in Tokyo, or Geoffrey Mutai's 2:05.05 at NYC were more impressive than a handful of non record setting performances at London and Berlin. Kimetto's 2:03 in Chicago.. all are performances that are unmatched.
Had Breaking2 not happened, not sure Kipchoge would have nearly the hype.
"Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever?"
Nike told them. That's why. You'd be surprised how many "Breaking 2" fans there are that run 10 miles a week and spout off their opinions about running.
I call him the greatest marathoner ever because he is, and would still love to hear who UA runner would rank ahead of him.
This won't change regardless if Kipchoge never gets the WR.
i'm so sick of kipchoge.he gonna lose this time.he talks like he is the good guy in long distance running but he cheat about his age.i think he is around 38-40 years old.guess what kipchoge? you gonna lose this time because your body cannot handle racing fast pace anymore
that guy from Germany wrote:
runnerdave wrote:
Anybody know what happened to Guye Adola? He looked like the most amazing new-comer ever.
He will run the Frankfurt Marathon on October 28th.
He was supposed to be like 27/28, but the rumor was that he was at least 4-5 years older than that. I doubt we ever see him reach those same heights.
He's actually 43 wrote:
UA Runner wrote:
Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever? People have short memories. Breaking2 not withstanding, he has the third best marathon of all time. And one could argue that he is so dominant now mainly because the competition isn't as strong. Bekele, Kipsang, Kimetto are getting past their prime. Who else is there? A random Guye Adola almost beat Kipchoge last year at Berlin in his first marathon ever.
One could argue that Kipsang's nearly solo 2:03 in Tokyo, or Geoffrey Mutai's 2:05.05 at NYC were more impressive than a handful of non record setting performances at London and Berlin. Kimetto's 2:03 in Chicago.. all are performances that are unmatched.
Had Breaking2 not happened, not sure Kipchoge would have nearly the hype.
"Why do people consider him the greatest marathoner ever?"
Nike told them. That's why. You'd be surprised how many "Breaking 2" fans there are that run 10 miles a week and spout off their opinions about running.
My goodness, what else does he need to do? Beats everyone who's anyone. 8 straight wins. Probably averages
I just hope Kip has reduced the amount of carbs in his marathon bottles. After it was reported that he was taking the highest amount of carbs than other elite runners, that blew me away. Marten increased kips intake up to 18 percent, and Bekele was taking 14 percent. Sports professors have studied that taking anything higher than 10 percent will cause the athlete to throw up. That is why he was having stomach trouble in Berlin last year, and in Tokyo earlier this year.
from sports illustrated: " Andrew Bosch, a professor of sports science and physiology at the University of Cape Town, believes that 9 to 10% is the tolerable percentage of sugar in a drink for an individual and if you go higher, the runner is likely to throw up. The drink that Bekele was taking was 14% carbohydrates and Kipsang used an 18% solution."
I'm going with Kip in this one. He has been in great from, but hasn't been able to showcase it because of stomach issues. I think he will shine.
Dibaba is just too strong for the field. Something really unexpected would have to happen for her to lose.
