Rojo does hate Engels for no reason, but would talk out of the other side of his mouth and wishes the sport had more people like him.
He is right about the racing this winter. He wasn't able to train with all the racing, so to make this final shows a bright future.
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stop the NOP witch hunt blowjo, if it was a bowertman tc guy or anyone else you would have celebrated their braveness. the advice that you've been giving on these boards for years is far worse, and the advice you gave your losers at cornell was even worse and you getting fired proved that.
salem witch trials wrote:
stop the NOP witch hunt blowjo, if it was a bowertman tc guy or anyone else you would have celebrated their braveness. the advice that you've been giving on these boards for years is far worse, and the advice you gave your losers at cornell was even worse and you getting fired proved that.
Oh snap. Oh no you didnt
Engels 3, Rojo 0 wrote:
Rojo’s hate for the NOP and Engels is comical. Is Engels strong enough to run a 3:39 pace up front on his own (that’s what it would have to take after a slow first 200 to see if anyone takes it) in his first WC? Maybe, maybe not.
Engels got the qualifier, made the team, made the WC final. If he’s gotten bad advice along the way, then he shouldn’t ask for the good advice.
1) He didn't need to run 3:39 pace. He just needed to run 3:42 pace. Maybe they didn't realize there were only 3 guys in heat #3. But Craig Engels can run 3:42 in his sleep.
2) I guess you don't realize that I'm friendly with Engels HS coach. So I'm definitely an Engels fan. Even his HS coach thought it was surprising. I got a text from him saying "just go run 3:41".
Engels is actually fascinating for me as here is a guy I've always taken an interest in and he's now joined the NOP.
I don't think the advice of "just race" in the first meet of the year was a bad one. I just would have added "Just race but make sure you go with with the rabbit." But once he didn't get it there, he then had a dilemma. He decided to chase it the next week which I would have been fine with if they'd turned it into an actally 1500 and not a mile. Otherwise I'd have stayed in the 800 at Camel City and just planned on getting it easily the next week in Boston.
salem witch trials wrote:
stop the NOP witch hunt blowjo, if it was a bowertman tc guy or anyone else you would have celebrated their braveness. the advice that you've been giving on these boards for years is far worse, and the advice you gave your losers at cornell was even worse and you getting fired proved that.
False. I know it's hard to lead races but for years, I've ripped 1500 guys for thinking they all can kick. It's something we've always complained out. And if he doesn't want to lead, just take it out in 58 and see what happens. If no one else keeps it going, just back off and race. A 58 first lap isn't going to hurt anyone. The only hard part about front running is the middle portion of a race.
I criticize all groups equally on tactics. We've consistently done it and jonathan gault in Birmingham has just finished the 1500 recap. He called me and said, "I hope you don't think I was too harsh on Engels but I think that was really risky."
It amazes me because we've had the gall to question Salazar that you think everything else is biased by that. False.
Go back and read any recap of any prelim we've ever done. We ripped Wilson in the 2016 Olympic semifinals when she chose not to push the pace even though Margaret Wambui and Francine Niyonsaba were in the heat.
This decision wasn't as bad. None of the Engels decisions are outright horrific this year - I see the logic behind them all but I'd just have done something slightly different in each case (made sure I went with the rabbit in NY, not chased it in Camel City unless it was a pure 1500, and run the first 400 in 58 here).
rojo wrote:
Engels 3, Rojo 0 wrote:
Rojo’s hate for the NOP and Engels is comical. Is Engels strong enough to run a 3:39 pace up front on his own (that’s what it would have to take after a slow first 200 to see if anyone takes it) in his first WC? Maybe, maybe not.
Engels got the qualifier, made the team, made the WC final. If he’s gotten bad advice along the way, then he shouldn’t ask for the good advice.
1) He didn't need to run 3:39 pace. He just needed to run 3:42 pace. Maybe they didn't realize there were only 3 guys in heat #3. But Craig Engels can run 3:42 in his sleep.
2) I guess you don't realize that I'm friendly with Engels HS coach. So I'm definitely an Engels fan. Even his HS coach thought it was surprising. I got a text from him saying "just go run 3:41".
Engels is actually fascinating for me as here is a guy I've always taken an interest in and he's now joined the NOP.
I don't think the advice of "just race" in the first meet of the year was a bad one. I just would have added "Just race but make sure you go with with the rabbit." But once he didn't get it there, he then had a dilemma. He decided to chase it the next week which I would have been fine with if they'd turned it into an actally 1500 and not a mile. Otherwise I'd have stayed in the 800 at Camel City and just planned on getting it easily the next week in Boston.
Excellent response Rojo!
The butthurt Engels apologists are a joke. I'm a huge NOP fan, but why anyone can't understand why they have tons of haters is delusional.
I trained under Joe Douglas with the Santa Monica Track Club, and Engels just did everything tactically that we were taught to never do.
Results noted that Dey Tuach DEY ran a South Sudan indoor1500m national record. That comes as a surprise with a lot of South Sudanese going through the US high school system, and running in college. The younger Lomong brothers, guy that ran for Augustana, St. Olaf, etc.
salem witch trials wrote:
stop the NOP witch hunt blowjo, if it was a bowertman tc guy or anyone else you would have celebrated their braveness. the advice that you've been giving on these boards for years is far worse, and the advice you gave your losers at cornell was even worse and you getting fired proved that.
When is the women's 1500?
sprinthard wrote:
I trained under Joe Douglas with the Santa Monica Track Club, and Engels just did everything tactically that we were taught to never do.
The smtc was never known for their intellect.
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ClaireHuxtable wrote:
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Thank you!
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Thank you.
Please. Don't claim you're even-handed on Salazar and his athletes. That's rich. Just come right out and say that you resent their cheating and superior resources.
These results not good enough for you?
No respect. wrote:
sprinthard wrote:
I trained under Joe Douglas with the Santa Monica Track Club, and Engels just did everything tactically that we were taught to never do.
The smtc was never known for their intellect.
We were known for NCAA, World, Olympic Championships and world records.
Does a field feed exist? The BBC2 feed talk too much, and show replay upon replay rather than breaking to a field event.
I remember when we were pretty early on in the flotrack days, ROJO sent me an email begging me to give him a job! yea right! our site doesn't need another idiot!