King Cheserek is back!! He just rocked a 3:54 mile at 5,120 feet of altitude, beating BB by 6+ seconds

Boutros Boutros-Golly wrote:

Not David Costill wrote:

I see that physiology is not your strong suit. Care to make additional foolish comments?

What's foolish about it? It makes perfect sense that Keino was far less affected by the altitude than Ryun. So conversions would not apply to an African who lived all his life at altitude.

Comment was not made in reference to Ryun/Keino.

Did Cheserek go somewhere?

Coached Fitness Blogger wrote:

It really is 3:49.35 accoding to NCAA converting. Fact.

Yeah, and NCAA conversion also gave two b-tier Africans an easily-sub world record conversion in the mile a year or two ago. Daniels is far more accurate and gives him a 3:53. Kip Keino ran 3:53 at altitude in 1967 when only Jim Ryun had ever run faster than 3:53. The only reason we don't see a lot of fast miles at altitude is that there aren't a lot of top-tier mile races at altitude. I'm glad to see Ches racing well, but this is in no way a 3:49 equivalent.

Coached Fitness Blogger wrote:

wowwwww wrote:

What is that converted??

Three 49 point 3 five!

3:49.35?

That's cute!

Another Nike mistake wrote:

Bet that little arm was flapping like crazy. Can't wait to see Blankenship's posts on IG.

Windmill, baby!

running commenter wrote:

Pretty sure he is 47 years old, impressive! wrote:

I don’t think he’s salty. Just impressed that a 47 year old can run that fast!

These jokes are a lot lamer now that he's a pro and his age doesn't matter anymore.

Excellent post, perhaps the best today. Probably won't shut up the haters though.

FrenchDawg wrote:

running commenter wrote:

These jokes are a lot lamer now that he's a pro and his age doesn't matter anymore.

Excellent post, perhaps the best today. Probably won't shut up the haters though.

Not at all excellent! If Cheatserek was in fact 21 when he left HS (as common wisdom seems to confirm), then none of his marks should be in the record books. Period! The fact that he's suddenly younger than a lot of his new rivals makes him and his high-school handlers no less of a cheater!

running commenter wrote:

Pretty sure he is 47 years old, impressive! wrote:

I don’t think he’s salty. Just impressed that a 47 year old can run that fast!

These jokes are a lot lamer now that he's a pro and his age doesn't matter anymore.

At least not until next year when he decides to become a Master.

I'm astounded ... wrote:

Ches wrote:

Ches is going to be the AR holder in the mile pretty soon. 3:54 is insane at altitude.

KenyanCitizen wrote:

Once he becomes an America

Will he be a North, or a South America?

Where's that wall we were promised, to keep them furrinerrs out?

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Ventolin^666 wrote:

You have spoken the words of the devil. He will show up. With bold typeface and conversions to end all days.

Good point. And God forbid if there is a video of the race and Ches ran *any* distance in lane 2, or slightly uneven splits........we are going to have to listen to "he's in at least 3:40 mile shape, right now, at sea level, outdoors, correct pacing, lane 1, etc, etc, etc, etc...."

Everyone has to stop with all the time converting.

Nothing converts to anything!

You run what you run.

Ches ran 3:54.... that's it.

Gramps wrote:

I'm astounded ... wrote:

Will he be a North, or a South America?

Where's that wall we were promised, to keep them furrinerrs out?

Democrats are blocking it.

"January 16, 2015, Cristian Soratos ran a 4:05 indoor mile, which the NCAA converted to a 3:56 result due to Bozeman's altitude of approximately 4,400 feet above sea level.[9] It was the first race in which Soratos wore his Sonic the Hedgehog long socks, which attracted much attention in the sport.[10]

Commentary from enthusiasts and experts alike were overwhelmingly skeptical of the NCAA-converted result.[9] However, the following month, Soratos garnered national attention when he ran the indoor mile of at the 2015 University of Washington Huskey Classic, whose venue was much closer to sea level, with a time of 3:55.27."

I saw Pat Casey break 4 minutes on that track...

I use to tell athletes that conversions were for NCAA qualification.

If you can 3:56 at altitude of course you can run faster of course you could run faster at sea level, but you don't get to claim a sub 3:50 until you run under 3:50.

Coached Fitness Blogger wrote:

Yah, he grew up at altitude a lot higher than Alberquarkey, and I bet for him the elevation cost him maybe 3 seconds max.

Any 1500m meter time in Ciudad de Mexico should be translated to a mile time at sea level, between the elevation, the smaug and the general shittiness of the place! What Keino Ryan did was unreal.

Ya I'd run fast if Smaug were chasing me too!

Another Nike mistake wrote:

Bet that little arm was flapping like crazy. Can't wait to see Blankenship's posts on IG.

Any video yet of the race surface?

An altitude-born and raised athlete like Cheserek will not equal his NCAA altitude-conversion in the way that a non-altitude-born and raised athlete like Soratos would. Even if you are training at altitude for a month, you will not drop as much time in going to sea level as a sea level athlete will lose in coming up to altitude. There's acclimation and also inherited adaptations, which many Kenyans have from their ancestors living at altitude.

He can run 3:51 indoors this year. The talent level to run 3:49 indoors is off the charts .

Stephen Haas is his coach, agent, and best friend. Fact.