not sure wrote:
I don't believe UMASS beat Providence ever, unless Providence did not run their full team. John Treacy was the top guy for the friars followed by a bunch of Irish imports and Dan Dillon.
1974 IC4A Cross Country
1. 24:21 Dennis Trujillo Army
2. 24:34 Randy Thomas UMass
3. 24:37 Eamonn Coghlan Villanova
4. 24:38 Alex Kasich WVU
5. 24:39 Bill Gillan UMass
...
10. 24:48 Tom Smith Providence
1. 106 UMass
2. 125 Providence
malmo wrote:
not sure wrote:
I don't believe UMASS beat Providence ever, unless Providence did not run their full team. John Treacy was the top guy for the friars followed by a bunch of Irish imports and Dan Dillon.
1974 IC4A Cross Country
1. 24:21 Dennis Trujillo Army
2. 24:34 Randy Thomas UMass
3. 24:37 Eamonn Coghlan Villanova
4. 24:38 Alex Kasich WVU
5. 24:39 Bill Gillan UMass
...
10. 24:48 Tom Smith Providence
1. 106 UMass
2. 125 Providence
Well, there you go.
I entered college in '75 (same year as Dillon), so didn't pay attention as much before that. The Irish flood gates opened up from there.
John Treacy must have been a frosh in '74, boy did he develop.
Mick O'Shea had the hot hand for Providence - Treacy came a year or two later.
In the '77 New Englands, John Treacy won the 5-mile race at Franklin Park in 22 minutes and change. Quinn from UMass was 4th or 5th, also under 23:00. These were the days of balls-out XC from the gun.
I don't know/remember whether Providence ran the IC4A championships in 1977. If they did, UMass most certainly beat them, as they were champs.
As for John Legere, he's a fan and he's probably checking this thread. Only he can tell us his on-track achievements.
Hey Jay, how's it going? Is the Blue Wall still there? Let's put on our Aluminum Foil hats and go have some brews with Benb.
Big Red wrote:
Mick O'Shea had the hot hand for Providence - Treacy came a year or two later.
In the '77 New Englands, John Treacy won the 5-mile race at Franklin Park in 22 minutes and change. Quinn from UMass was 4th or 5th, also under 23:00. These were the days of balls-out XC from the gun.
I don't know/remember whether Providence ran the IC4A championships in 1977. If they did, UMass most certainly beat them, as they were champs.
As for John Legere, he's a fan and he's probably checking this thread. Only he can tell us his on-track achievements.
Hey Jay, how's it going? Is the Blue Wall still there? Let's put on our Aluminum Foil hats and go have some brews with Benb.
Well, I was in that '77 race, back in 20th.
Tracy edged Deegan also from Providence 22:47 to 22:49, no one else broke 23:00, loaded race for sure, John Flora, Quinn, Dillon, I think Bickford was in there,my teammate was 9th in 23:48.
OP called it, a lot of jealousy is going on in this thread.
High five to John for a 2:53 on a course like NYC at any age, yet in his 50's.
Runner Genes wrote:
OP called it, a lot of jealousy is going on in this thread.
High five to John for a 2:53 on a course like NYC at any age, yet in his 50's.
The OP didn't call anything. It is established fact that Legere didn't run a 4:06 mile. Could you point to any 'jealousy' at all on this thread? Link?
Very Keene is right - my memory fails on '77 New England XC champs. Mike Quinn was low 23 minute range, closely followed by team mate Stetson Arnold (late of Providence).
'77 IC4As, I think John Flora was individual champ, Quinn 2nd.
Hey Big Red, don't believe Stetson Arnold was in the 77 New England Champs race, don't recall his name in the results. He was often injured from what I remember, his brother Craig was on the UMASS team at the time, but more of a JV level runner.
From, Randy Thomas, Fitchburg's most notable runner, himself: "Very good friends growing up. 'Jay' was my younger brother's (Jason) best friend."
Randy thinks Legere may have been 4:18-low 4:20s, but wasn't sure.
Randy ran 5:09 in high school. You read that right, as in "4:69"