Ok. Now we have our first BIG upset. Navy men 2nd in Mid-Atlantic.
Final Standings Score Scoring Order Total
1 Princeton 57 4-7-8-13-25(33)(38) 2:33:43
2 Navy 109 14-15-24-26-30(59)(81) 2:34:35
3 Villanova 115 2-3-21-34-55(60)(72) 2:34:43
4 Georgetown 122 1-17-28-35-41(42)(73) 2:34:48
5 Penn State 131 6-9-20-43-53(78)(97) 2:35:12
6 Penn 143 16-19-27-36-45(54)(61) 2:35:15
Is Mountain region update?
The link and site do not have live results.
How can a NCAA regional championship meet not have live results in the year 2017?? That should be a requirement to host!!
colorado 62
new mexico 70
No alice wright for NM
did Colorado have a full squad?
Here is the projected women's field with only the West Region to come.
1 Michigan
2 Michigan State
3 Penn State
4 Villanova
5 Iowa State
6 Oklahoma State
7 Colorado
8 New Mexico
9 Providence
10 Dartmouth
11 Ole Miss
12 Georgia
13 Arkansas
14 Texas
15 North Carolina St.
16 Furman
17 Oregon
18 Stanford
19 San Francisco
20 Boise State
21 Wisconsin
22 Minnesota
23 Washington
24 BYU
25 Utah State
26 Eastern Kentucky
27 Syracuse
28 Columbia
29 Missouri
30 Virginia Tech
31 Louisville
Go Navy. I had a sense that Al Cantello's magic would work once again.
so we'll see whos smarter you all or fotrack
Gotta bee wrote:
so we'll see whos smarter you all or fotrack
Well considering, we've never gotten it wrong and they regularly do, I don't think it's a debate. It's not us - it's Bo Waggoner's computer program.
Jonathan Gault wrote:
Here is the projected women's field with only the West Region to come.
1 Michigan
2 Michigan State
3 Penn State
4 Villanova
5 Iowa State
6 Oklahoma State
7 Colorado
8 New Mexico
9 Providence
10 Dartmouth
11 Ole Miss
12 Georgia
13 Arkansas
14 Texas
15 North Carolina St.
16 Furman
17 Oregon
18 Stanford
19 San Francisco
20 Boise State
21 Wisconsin
22 Minnesota
23 Washington
24 BYU
25 Utah State
26 Eastern Kentucky
27 Syracuse
28 Columbia
29 Missouri
30 Virginia Tech
31 Louisville
Real geeks might want to know the logic. Here it is.
Teams under consideration by points:
8 San Francisco
6 Utah State, Boise State
5 Minnesota, Wisconsin
2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Georgetown, Princeton, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, Samford
Others with points: Washington (3), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Indiana (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), California (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
19: San Francisco (#3 west) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
6 Utah State, Boise State
5 Minnesota, Wisconsin
3 Washington
2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Georgetown, Princeton, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, Samford
Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Indiana (1), California (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
Breaking ties between Utah State, Boise State using head-to-head
Utah State loses head-to-head vs Utah State, is not selected (mountain_west_championships)
20: Boise State (#4 west) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
6 Utah State
5 Minnesota, Wisconsin
3 Washington
2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, Samford
Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Indiana (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
Utah State not selected with push (gets in later on their own)
Breaking ties between Minnesota, Wisconsin using head-to-head
Minnesota loses head-to-head vs Minnesota, is not selected (louisville_classic, nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational, big_10_championships)
21: Wisconsin (#3 great_lakes) is selected, has losses to (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational) Washington; (big_10_championships) Minnesota;
Teams under consideration by points:
6 Minnesota
4 Washington
2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, Samford
Others with points: Utah State (6), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
22: Minnesota (#3 midwest) is selected, has losses to (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational) Washington;
Teams under consideration by points:
5 Washington
2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford
Others with points: Utah State (6), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
23: Washington (#5 west) is selected, has losses to (dellinger_byu_v_washington) BYU;
Teams under consideration by points:
3 BYU
2 Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford
Others with points: Utah State (6), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
24: BYU (#3 mountain) is selected, has losses to (byu_autumn_classic_utah_state_v_byu) Utah State; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Utah State;
Teams under consideration by points:
8 Utah State
2 Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Utah, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford
Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
25: Utah State (#4 mountain) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining
Teams under consideration by points:
2 Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky
1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford
Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)
Breaking ties between Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky using head-to-head
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Columbia and Missouri
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Columbia and Eastern Kentucky
Missouri loses head-to-head vs Missouri, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)
Breaking ties between Columbia, Eastern Kentucky using common opponents
Common opponents are tied for Columbia, Eastern Kentucky (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Brown, Boston College, Wisconsin, Purdue, Virginia, Michigan, Iona, Minnesota, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Furman, UMass Lowell, Miami (Ohio), North Carolina St., Boise State)
Breaking ties between ['Columbia', 'Eastern Kentucky'] using highest place at regionals.
Broke tie by selecting Eastern Kentucky (highest regional finish).
26: Eastern Kentucky (#3 southeast) is selected, has losses to (louisville_classic) Northern Arizona;
Teams under consideration by points:
2 Columbia, Missouri
1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford
Others with points: Ohio State (2), Northern Arizona (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Portland (1)
Breaking ties between Columbia, Missouri using head-to-head
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Columbia and Missouri
Breaking ties between Columbia, Missouri using common opponents
Common opponents are tied for Columbia, Missouri (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Brown, Boston College, Tulsa, Michigan, Minnesota, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Bradley, Eastern Michigan, Iona, UMass Lowell, Miami (Ohio), Iowa State)
Breaking ties between ['Columbia', 'Missouri'] using highest place at regionals.
Breaking ties between ['Columbia', 'Missouri'] using closest score to 2nd-place in region.
Could not break ties among Columbia, Missouri!
Manually broke tie by picking Columbia
27: Syracuse (#3 northeast) is selected, gives no points (pushed in)
28: Columbia (#4 northeast) is selected, has losses to (sam_bell_invitational) Indiana;
Teams under consideration by points:
2 Missouri, Indiana
1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State
0 Yale, South Dakota, Samford
Others with points: Ohio State (2), Northern Arizona (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Portland (1)
Breaking ties between Missouri, Indiana using head-to-head
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Missouri and Indiana
Breaking ties between Missouri, Indiana using common opponents
Common opponents are tied for Missouri, Indiana (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Brown, Boston College, Iowa, Tulsa, Northwestern, Michigan, Dayton, Minnesota, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Bradley, Ohio State, Eastern Michigan, UMass Lowell, Toledo, Penn State, Miami (Ohio), Iowa State)
Breaking ties between ['Missouri', 'Indiana'] using highest place at regionals.
Broke tie by selecting Missouri (highest regional finish).
29: Missouri (#4 midwest) is selected, has losses to (commodore_classic) Ohio State, Vanderbilt; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Northern Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Ohio State, Duke, Arizona, Portland, Toledo, Abilene Christian, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Dayton, Arizona State, SMU;
Teams under consideration by points:
2 Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Indiana, SMU
1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, Florida State
0 Yale, South Dakota, Bradley, Samford
Others with points: Ohio State (4), Northern Arizona (3), Toledo (2), Wake Forest (2), Abilene Christian (2), Northwestern (2), Dayton (2), Duke (2), Arizona State (2), Portland (2), Brown (1), Pittsburgh (1), Cornell (1), Vanderbilt (1)
Breaking ties between Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Indiana, SMU using head-to-head
Arizona loses head-to-head vs Arizona, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)
Arizona loses head-to-head vs Arizona, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Arizona and Indiana
SMU loses head-to-head vs Arizona, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)
Louisville loses head-to-head vs Virginia Tech (most recent matchup), is not selected (louisville_classic, adidas_di_pre_nationals, acc_championships, southeast)
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Virginia Tech and Indiana
SMU loses head-to-head vs Virginia Tech, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Louisville and Indiana
SMU loses head-to-head vs Louisville, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)
No head-to-head tiebreaker for Indiana and SMU
Breaking ties between Virginia Tech, Indiana using common opponents
Common opponents are tied for Virginia Tech, Indiana (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Minnesota, Illinois, UMass Lowell, Vanderbilt, Toledo, Miami (Ohio), North Carolina St., Brown, Boston College, Wisconsin, Dayton, Michigan, Virginia, Florida State, Furman, Ohio State, UAB, Syracuse, Northwestern, Purdue, Kentucky, Notre Dame, Marquette, Oakland, Boise State)
Breaking ties between ['Virginia Tech', 'Indiana'] using highest place at regionals.
Broke tie by selecting Virginia Tech (highest regional finish).
30: Virginia Tech (#4 southeast) is selected, has losses to (louisville_classic) Northern Arizona, Louisville, West Virginia, Kentucky; (acc_championships) Louisville; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Northern Arizona;
Teams under consideration by points:
4 Louisville
1 Utah, Georgetown, California, Eastern Michigan, Baylor
0 Yale, South Dakota, Samford
Others with points: Northern Arizona (5), Ohio State (4), Toledo (2), Wake Forest (2), Abilene Christian (2), Arizona (2), Northwestern (2), Indiana (2), SMU (2), Dayton (2), Duke (2), Arizona State (2), Portland (2), Brown (1), Florida State (1), West Virginia (1), Air Force (1), Pittsburgh (1), Cornell (1), Vanderbilt (1), Princeton (1), Kentucky (1)
31: Louisville (#5 southeast) is selected, has losses to (louisville_classic) Northern Arizona; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Northern Arizona;
Great Lakes
1 - Michigan State Men
2 - Michigan Men
solid day for the much-maligned patriot league. navy 2nd MA, army 3rd NE, lehigh's pat reilly qualified out of Mid Atlantic, Paul Luevano of BU qualified out of NE region, and christine bendzinski 4th overall to qualify from women's mid-atlantic
Georgetown was AWFUL in the mid-atlantic. 4th place in the second-weakest region in the country (#southcentralsucks) with Jon Green scoring 1 point?!?!
What could west region change
xcmets wrote:
Am I reading the results wrong or did a lot of women drop out of the midatlatic regional race?
http://pioneertiming.com/results/2017/CrossCountry/11_10_NCAA_D1_Mid-Atlantic_Championships/
The live results were slightly off until after the race completed. The split standings had Lehigh leading at the mile with one of their runners in 1st but now the results say she was 84th at the mile and the team was 12th.
It also looks like some of those teams registered almost their entire roster-teams that scored a full team have 6 girls listed as DNF.
Comparing the results to some of their previous meets, yes and no. They look like they pretty much just did a tempo run (their top 2 in most of their races went 3,4) and rested their 5,6 runners from conferences. It was not an all out effort from either CU or UNM.
patriotObserver1124 wrote:
solid day for the much-maligned patriot league. navy 2nd MA, army 3rd NE, lehigh's pat reilly qualified out of Mid Atlantic, Paul Luevano of BU qualified out of NE region, and christine bendzinski 4th overall to qualify from women's mid-atlantic
john valeri of army qualified out of the NE as well!
mmm last year you all didn't know that
"And yes, amazingly what it came down to for Penn vs. Boise State is Penn beating Villanova (running without its top two finishers at Regionals) in a 3-team, 3-mile race way back on September 16. That gave Penn an extra point, and since Penn beat Boise State at Wisconsin, they get in ahead of Boise State."