So you're cool with torturing people as long as they don't die? You sound like a nut job.
John utah wrote:
markschultz26 wrote:Comparing this to running is completely missing the point (even if you're feeling pain while running).
When you're running you're controlling how hard you go. No one is physically forcing you. This girl wanted to stop and couldn't.
Did she die?
Some people here are clearly in need of help, I'd say locked up in a mental prison is the best sort
Not sure if some people are joking or not, but even if they are the fact they'd joke about this is just as bad as being seriously disgusting....
can't trust these schools wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHYMaABHCw4&feature=youtu.beHow can a school district let this happen? Disturbing video.
For anyone interested, you can find his other splitting-jobs on youporn.
markschultz26 wrote:
So you're cool with torturing people as long as they don't die? You sound like a nut job.
John utah wrote:Did she die?
MarkSchultz, we all know u are a racist. Just say u have a issue with a black man coaching white kids, don't make up reasons u think other people will agree with. Everybody be honest, the girl could have say no from the beginning and walked away. She wanted to be on the team and of course the coach would think she put up with the pain
John you're being played, this isn't really Mark look at the number
Has to be the funny saddest thing I've seen in a while;
"I didn't think I'd be forced to do splits"
(I just wanted to wear the uniform)
Ahh the snowflakes.
Sad.
Does calling high school girls snowflakes make you feel good about yourself? Life isn't going as planned?
It's Egun wrote:
Has to be the funny saddest thing I've seen in a while;
"I didn't think I'd be forced to do splits"
(I just wanted to wear the uniform)
Ahh the snowflakes.
Sad.
I knew dindus would be the perpetrators. This is why we need segregation.
markschultz26 wrote:
So you're cool with torturing people as long as they don't die? You sound like a nut job.
John utah wrote:Did she die?
It's a simple question.
HERO!! wrote:
sometimes sports hurt wrote:Guess you've never pushed yourself to a point where you hurt while running?
Seriously I hear all these people talk about running hurting and don't understand it. It can be exhausting and leave you quite sore yes, but painful, really?
I'm guessing those are runners who never played other sports to learn what pain is. Running has its own complications but intense physical pain is not one of them. Its right up there with ultimate frisbee in terms of pain levels.
zxcvxzcvxc wrote:
or maybe this is a big deal only because the races in the video are what they are. It is not worthy of national attention, however. There are over 10,000 homicides in this country every year, plus something like 20,000 suicides and 30,000+ deaths from car accidents.
If there is a video of a murder, it would make national news. Happens all the time.
yes, but... wrote:
Close your eyes and picture this as a football player who is crying due to pain caused by an ill-conceived drill from a bad coach. This would never make the news. Was this an example of bad coaching? I think most of us agree that it is. But forced stretching is not that uncommon in cheer-leading, gymnastics, and dance. Maybe it is bad coaching and maybe it justifies firing the coach, as has been done, but this is happening in other places. It is false to accuse the school of not responding. The principal, AD, and coach met with the family the day following the mother making a complaint. They thought the issue had been addressed, but the family was not satisfied with the response - what assurances were made to the family at that time have not been publicly disclosed. So the family sent the video to a local new channel. Again, maybe this is proof that the coach is so bad he had to fired, but a criminal investigation? Suspending the AD and principal who responded to the parents in one day? Should we fear, as coaches, pushing our kids to keep running hard even when they are uncomfortable? How many times have you had a girl crying at the finish line of a race - it is like an every race occurrence on our team. Is that criminal abuse? They all voluntarily come back, but is there a guarantee that there is not a crazy family out there that will accuse me of abuse for encouraging a runner to finish and run hard all the way? BTW, other girls on the team still supported the coach. The media has focused on a sensational video and blown this up without context. Also, the injuries were limited to "possible hamstring pull." How many of those are in the training room everyday at your school?
Show me some examples like this in track/Xc and the perhaps I'll listen to your drivel.
It's simple but extraneous. Things can be significant even of someone doesn't die. Things can be significant even of other things are more significant. I expect some irrelevant nonsense response at best from Johnny Utah.
John utah wrote:
markschultz26 wrote:So you're cool with torturing people as long as they don't die? You sound like a nut job.
It's a simple question.
Let's put things in perspective.Yes, this video is cheerleading.However, if you really follow and have followed running, you will remember a notorious coach...call him Gary Michelson, in this case.There were articles after articles about his abusive and excessive methods.Translate this to cheer
sometimes sports hurt wrote:
What you saw was more like Michelson's training, rather than simple pain.
Guess you've never pushed yourself to a point where you hurt while running?
markschultz26 wrote:
It's simple but extraneous.
Things can be significant even of someone doesn't die. Things can be significant even of other things are more significant. I expect some irrelevant nonsense response at best from Johnny Utah.
John utah wrote:It's a simple question.
What's the significance here?
My question to you, Mr. Utah, is whether or not you actually know what you address.
I have seen your posts in multiple threads, and generally, you, if anyone, make the most callous posts here on letsrun.
It does not help real dialogue on any issue that you address.
Enough already.
Mike
Gotta bee wrote:
Some people here are clearly in need of help, I'd say locked up in a mental prison is the best sort
Not sure if some people are joking or not, but even if they are the fact they'd joke about this is just as bad as being seriously disgusting....
You should re-watch the video and focus on the girls in the background rather than the hysterics by one underachieving girl in the foreground. I can't help but notice the other girls stretching and practicing in the immediate background. They seem to be pretty casual about what is going on.
The splits hurt if you are untrained but I don't think the coach intended to be abusive. Maybe he should be reprimanded but this was not criminal. I hadn't even noticed the racial aspect of this video until I read this thread but now I have to question the motivations of the parents involved.
bandit racer wrote:
Gotta bee wrote:Some people here are clearly in need of help, I'd say locked up in a mental prison is the best sort
Not sure if some people are joking or not, but even if they are the fact they'd joke about this is just as bad as being seriously disgusting....
You should re-watch the video and focus on the girls in the background rather than the hysterics by one underachieving girl in the foreground. I can't help but notice the other girls stretching and practicing in the immediate background. They seem to be pretty casual about what is going on.
The splits hurt if you are untrained but I don't think the coach intended to be abusive. Maybe he should be reprimanded but this was not criminal. I hadn't even noticed the racial aspect of this video until I read this thread but now I have to question the motivations of the parents involved.
The motivations are drama and lawsuit money. Color of skin doesn't matter.
They could have dealt with this in a responsible way.
Real (the best kind) of cheerleading was taken over by the money hungry people who wanted to make it sucky and a competitive sport requiring too much dance skills, gymnastic skills etc. to sell things and make money.
Gone are the really good and fun cheers that were long like songs and the crowds used to get in on for the stupid short syllable word cheers that suck like "GO. Fight. Win"
"Blue and white. Fight Fight Fight."
Get rid of this unneeded competitive cheer in young people's schools and bring back real and fun cheerleading.
That Ozell has done this stuff many times. He should pay for the torture etc.
Ironically, the ad above this post is for gymnastics training