Aden reportedly indicted on public health charges

rekrunner wrote:

Whatever I think about Aden and EPO, the connection is not being corroborated.

It was reported that there was EPO, but not with Aden.

It was reported that Aden is being indicted for breaking Spanish law, but with non-doping products.

It looks like the judge believes the coach, the one who runs the whole show, might actually have something to do with the EPO:

"Mounir y Jama Aden actuaron en connivencia en el suministro de medicamentos y epoetina a los atletas que se alojaban en el hotel Arrahona de Sabadell y que una de las finalidades de la concentración era el suministro de dichas sustancias a los atletas".

How much money would Jama make annually, anyone?

XY wrote:

How much money would Jama make annually, anyone?

1) Qatari coach

2) Nike sponsored team (special yellow/blue)

3) percentage money from athlete's winnings

Sorry, this is still ambiguous. Assuming Mounir had EPO and Jama had vitamins, the statement still makes sense.To be clear, what is missing (for me) is an authoritative statement describing the nature of Aden and Mounir's working relationship, if any.

grox wrote:

It looks like the judge believes the coach, the one who runs the whole show, might actually have something to do with the EPO:

"Mounir y Jama Aden actuaron en connivencia en el suministro de medicamentos y epoetina a los atletas que se alojaban en el hotel Arrahona de Sabadell y que una de las finalidades de la concentración era el suministro de dichas sustancias a los atletas".

rekrunner wrote:

To be clear, what is missing (for me) is an authoritative statement describing the nature of Aden and Mounir's working relationship, if any.

Unfortunately, the point of the trial will probably be to clarify all these things because they precisely lack hard evidence. It is blindingly obvious that it was a doping camp. But the athletes not having tested positive, it might be difficult to sentence anyone for distributing PEDs.

The IAAF on the other hand, should have more than enough to ban at least the ones who had EPO.

rekrunner wrote:

From Google Translate:

In Jama Aden's room appeared "several syringes, a box of the medicament Calco, a blister pack of 10 capsules, a box of Methycobal Injection 500 mcg , a vial of Maginjectable 0.8%, two ampules of Calciretard 10 ml, two vials of Livabion 2 ml, an ampoule of Aktober ", plus receipts from French pharmacies.

Is Jama Aden being indicted for "pushing" vitamin injections?

ukathleticscoach wrote:

No that was the syringes Aden put in bins outside the hotel

They found EPO in the hotel. It's not stored in syringes

The EPO was found in the room of the physio and one of the athletes. Aden is not stupid enough to stash it in his own room

how is this thread not blowing up? seems nobody really cares.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

The EPO was found in the room of the physio and one of the athletes. Aden is not stupid enough to stash it in his own room

Yes, but still was stupid because he throwed the syringes in the thrash, and authorities saw that because they followed him.

what the whwhat? wrote:

how is this thread not blowing up? seems nobody really cares.

Nope, I think that people are just losing the will to give a care. With all the evidence pointing to letting cheats off, back room payments, and so-so performances overall the last few years (exclude 400m wr), I think the average track fan has moved on. I think they've just lost interest because of all that. It's sad, really. At least the epo days were fun: sub 13 5k on the last half of a 10k...going through 2k split in a 3k in 4:55...

rekrunner wrote:

I appreciate that but:

- Hamza is not Aden.

- Balla (or his Yemen roommate) is not Aden.

- The Saudi physiotherapist is not Aden.

It looks like, from the article, that Aden is not being indicted for anything to do with EPO.

Again with this? wrote:

Hamza and Balla both busted with EPO. You selectively quoted from the article which states that the EPO was in Balla's room. Balla can only be prosecuted for intent to distribute. He is being prosecuted. To whom do you think he was going to distribute? Perhaps it's an Aden athlete in a hotel full of fellow Aden athletes?

Of course not. Kid gloves for guys like Aden, Lagat... you can see what's up.

Sad days alright wrote:

what the whwhat? wrote:

how is this thread not blowing up? seems nobody really cares.

Nope, I think that people are just losing the will to give a care. With all the evidence pointing to letting cheats off, back room payments, and so-so performances overall the last few years (exclude 400m wr), I think the average track fan has moved on. I think they've just lost interest because of all that. It's sad, really. At least the epo days were fun: sub 13 5k on the last half of a 10k...going through 2k split in a 3k in 4:55...

^This, and practically everyone here agrees that this is a group of drug cheats, and IAAF as per usual tries to ignore it. So, not much to argue about.

If this were about NOP, you'd have all the fanbois and Nike shills pretending that nothing is proven etc., the brojos would start posting, and then the thread(s) would keep growing.