Boulder or Flagstaff

Freak'n Bri, no more yanky my wanky.

Or Fairplay, Colorado, which sits just east of Leadville in what is basically a 10,000 foot valley with easy access to several 14ers.

CO-Runner wrote:

... or Leadville with easy access to 14k - Mt. Massive.

Thanks John, I\'ll give Wejo a shout! Best of luck!

I guess some studies suggest that Boulder's 5,300' altitude might be a little low to take full advantage of the benefits that altitude training can provide. Has anyone considered or heard of anyone who has lived just outside of Boulder at the higher elevations??? There are several communities such as Gold Hill, Jamestown and Ward that are only 10 to 15 miles outside of Boulder and are at 6,500' to 7,500'. Nederland is only 18 miles away and is at 8,200'. I lived in Boulder at one point for 3 years and am thinking about trying to find a little place in Nederland.

Ouray, CO. Elevation 7,770. Run on dirt exculsively. There are flat dirt roads and there are dirt roads that get to over 10,000 feet BEFORE the trails start.

35 easy miles south of Montrose, a large city with an airport.

Ben

I know, the Donger needs food. You take of Prof. Sniz, Biz and all the babygirls. Oh snap!

Pudding.... Its whats for dinner.

Nederland is a funky little mountain town, and might be a good choice to live high and train lower. During winter you have good xc ski trails at Eldora (~9300'). Estes is nice to, but overrun by tourists during the summer and overwhelmed by wind during winter.

I like chocolate pudding, especially when it is hot outside.

No way, tapioca is way better. If you need proof just go and ask the one armed man.

The Japanese women live in Nederland that is outside of Boulder and sits higher. They come down to Boulder to do intensity workouts.

I would agree that Boulder (and Colorado Springs for that matter) are probably in the "gray zone" although many people will get the RBC boost at those altitudes.

Buffy,

I am calling bull shit on the things that you say Flagstaff does not have. I have lived in Flagstaff for many years and I can attest to the fact that the things you say Flag doesnt have actually does have. Since you say you have lived here I will tell you where these amenities actually are.

1)Fix a tax issue with the IRS- Flagstaff does have an IRS tax office. It is located in the Bank of America building downtown on the 2nd floor.

2) Exchange an airline ticket- Flagstaff has Pulliam airport (right outside town on Highway 17) where you can exchange tickets. Plus, you ever heard about actually calling the airline itself and taking care of this? Just a thought, instead of driving to an airport and standing in line.

3) Visit the US immigration- I will admit that there is no US government based immigration offices, but much of the paperwork that you obtain at an US immigration office is available in town through different agencies.

4) Get a Visa to race in Mexico- Having never tried to do this from in town I will not comment.

5) Buy a car, there are no dealers- What are you stupid. There is a car dealership for every type of car, minus high end luxury cars (but I am sure this is not a problem for distance distance runners in light of the fact that they can not afford one). Take your choice between Ford, Chevy, Honda, Subaru, Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai, GMC, Mercury, Cadillac, Kia, Isuzu, and Jeep.

6) Get adequate physical therapy- Once again did you ever look for PT. My girlfriend is a practicing PT and she tells me that there are something like 15 outpatient clinics in town not including the hospital. Plus, NAU has one of the best PT programs in the US.

7) Get a job- Well I will admit you are somewhat on the money here, unless you want to work for the hospitality industry which accounts for about 70% of the jobs in town. However, if you are educated and have work skills you can make it without any problems.

8) Defrost- Considering that Flag is at nearly 7,000 feet the climate is actually quite nice. Avg. temperature during winter is mid-teens for low and mid-forties for a high and the summer months are 50's for low and around 80 for a high (I will attest that there is no better place to train than Flag durig the summer). If you want true altitude training Flag has the best weather hands down.

9) Have surgery- Well I will say that the leading experts for certain surgical procedures don't practice here, however, if you need these surgeries you will go anywhere in the world to obtain them. If you want other surgery there is plenty of qualified surgeons at the local hospital and various other ambulatory (out patient) facilities.

10) Race each weekend without driving Highway 17- Fly out of Pulliam airport, it only costs about $100 dollars more to fly out of Flag. Plus, highway 17 is not that bad, in fact there are plenty of other highways that have higher morbidity and mortality rates (in fact North Highway 89 from Flag to Page has a far higher morbidity and mortality rate).

Last thing, I resent your sentiments in saying "But that is my opinion for athletes who compete, not for those who want to live in a tent or commune and go hiking with people (men and women) who dont shave, pay too much for organic produce and want to save Tibet," you f***ing ignorant bastard. In fact I am glad you left, seeing is how this town does not need dip shits like you who spout off ignorant things like this. What you say is truly idiotic and unfounded.

Former Lumberjack