Molly Seidel returning to Notre Dame for 2017 NCAA track season

Rrun08/12 wrote:

I'm wondering the same thing. Can you just use your 5th year to run and not be a grad student? Also she majored in anthropology so I'm not really sure what she was planning to do with that?

It has always been in Molly's head and heart to become a doctor. What kind of doctor? Who knows. She was smart enough to not bombard herself with a super intense undergraduate major so she could balance her running. Notre Dame anthropology is going to be quite different than say your local community college or, even worse, the U of Oregon anthropology curriculum. I will say that the University Lake Prep HS has PhDs and heavy duty specialty teachers on staff. Usually by the time students leave they are on a similar level to juniors or seniors in college. So while her cv doesnt look overachieving off the track she has a good foundation and top tier genetics. Plus she was an academic all american too.

She'll have to do another 2 yrs of school if she wants to apply to med school with an anthropology degree. Can't imagine she did them in addition to her degree as that would have made her a double major and made her undergrad "super intense."

Molly Huddle seemed to handle pre-med, ND and winning just fine. If she was serious about med school she would have taken the pre-med and stretched it out over 5 yrs not finish a cake major, sit out a semester and then return.

Nonsense. I don't know if she completed the requirements but there's no reason to say that she has to do another two years. There's no reason to declare yourself "pre-med" or take anything more than a carefully-selected range of courses to go along with any major at all and still complete the requirements for med school. You can major in any program (even Letsrun's favorites like Applied Women's and Gendered Film Studies Appreciation) and still satisfy what med schools require. Some math, bio, intro and organic chem. Most majors even at very, very good schools are so watered down that you have a ton of room to take courses outside your field--and multi-disciplinary, cross-departmental training that's been the buzz for 15+ years now frequently forces students to do so.

Bleu wrote:

She'll have to do another 2 yrs of school if she wants to apply to med school with an anthropology degree. Can't imagine she did them in addition to her degree as that would have made her a double major and made her undergrad "super intense."

Unless she fit all of these in addition to her major then it will require a lot more school.

http://www.med.wisc.edu/education/md/admissions/premedical-requirements/110

Also note that one can't take OChem before GenC is completed and OChem must be finished before Biochem. Physics can be double with any of these but it gets crazy when you start layering. This is of course is also being able to maintain a 3.8 plus. I always find it amusing when to see posts from individuals who have no idea how long and difficult the process is. Sure you can be a film studies student (actually looks better on apps) but that doesn't mean you didn't take and ace all of the requirements,.

Sorry for all the typos but I keep having to reload due to pop ups with this page.

Don't forget you have to have all of the above completed before you can study for the MCAT which needs to be taken 1 yr before application.

1. ND has a supplemental major in Arts and Letters Preprofessional Studies. This allows a student to major in something from the College of Arts and Letters (such as anthropology) and then take the additional science classes necessary to apply for graduate work in one of the medical professions (like medical school, physical therapy, nursing, etc.). Molly may have pursued this already. It's definitely possible to do in four years while a student athlete, challenging but possible. Several student athletes do it every year. (Also, at ND, the typical order of chemistry is gen chem, orgo 1, orgo 2, inorganic chem during the first two years. Physics is typically for juniors, and ALPP students generally double up on general biology and chemistry as sophomores.)

2. If you look at Molly's profile on the ND athletics website, it says she plans to major in anthropology and environmental sciences. A major in environmental sciences would have her taking several of the necessary science classes, so if she completed the double major, she might not need to do a supplemental major as well.

3. MCAT scores typically last for 2-3 years (depending on the school), not 1 year. The MCAT was recently changed in how it is formatted and scored, but scores were traditionally good for 3 years. If she plans to pursue a professional career in running, then it might not make sense to take the MCAT now anyways.

4. Molly might not go into medicine if you believe this article below? (Or maybe she does, it's really up to her.)

http://scholastic.nd.edu/issues/66163-molly-seidel-continues-impressive-career-at-notre-dame/

notthepoint wrote:

runner dad with advice wrote:

So, by that logic, NAU has an unfair competitive advantage. Should we ban them from competition?

No. My point was taking a semester to strictly train and then enroll again in January to compete in track. She isnt redshirting. She is literally taking a semester off where she isnt taking classes= isnt a student

My point is that NAU = isnt a student, especially compared to Notre Dame.

You get into NAU if you have a 3.0 in HS. That's it. You could get next to nothing in your SAT and you're still in. They're not even ranked by USNWR.

So you will not go see this MD just because she got her undergrad from NAU?

http://www.fcm.arizona.edu/profile/michele-alba-md

On average - NAU is certainly easier to get into than many schools, however, there are MANY students who choose to attend NAU even though they could go elsewhere. I can still not figure out a guy I knew who got into MIT (MIT!!!) and instead chose to go to UMass Amherst (he said it was the cost differential, and he is now a CFO). POINT BEING - don't over-generalize and think everyone is an idiot just because they go to NAU or some other school you think is not top-tier.

I'm in agreement with your post. Also, I stated MCAT must be taken one yr prior to applying. It is good for 3 yrs and has gone back to the old fiorm with an addition of BIochem. My response was directed to "old hand timer" who seems to believe the gates open regardless of your major. The completion is brutal to gain acceptance before the war even begins.

Exactly! NAU students take the same MCAT as MIT students! University of Arizona takes almost all instate so you have a pretty good shot of getting in if you study hard and stay instate.

My point was that it is possible to complete an anthro degree in four years while simultaneously completing the requirements for med school. Please explain where you see an error in this statement.

Bleu wrote:

I'm in agreement with your post. Also, I stated MCAT must be taken one yr prior to applying. It is good for 3 yrs and has gone back to the old fiorm with an addition of BIochem. My response was directed to "old hand timer" who seems to believe the gates open regardless of your major. The completion is brutal to gain acceptance before the war even begins.

My kid got 98% on MCATs but goes to a DII school.

You guys would call him dumb.

But you guys are the ones that are stupid.

Running turtle wrote:

she looks very skinny :/

Yep, the calorie deprivation destroyed her..college career is over now that she's withdrawn from Regionals. I hope the NCAA titles were worth her career. She ran 2 races between coming back for indoors and outdoors but she still injury-plagued. Same as Brenna Peloquin. Damned shame...lets see how long Allie O lasts this time around.