Lynsey Sharpe breaks down in tears after 'womens' 800, asks for people at top to sort it out

green salad wrote:

Imagine if (presuming you're a guy) you're told you can't be with the woman you love? What would you do?

I don't know. Probably start taking part in women's middle distance foot races.

f*k sharpe wrote:

She was born with a genetic variation. All woman running at an elite level already have the genes that 99.9% of woman don't have

So do 100% of all men.

I say again, she is within the rules set by people with more scientific accreditation than you and me.

What exactly are the scientific credentials of the CAS?

No, it was a political decision. But you're right that it wasn't made by Caster.

VoR wrote:

f*k sharpe wrote:

She was born with a genetic variation. All woman running at an elite level already have the genes that 99.9% of woman don't have

So do 100% of all men.

I say again, she is within the rules set by people with more scientific accreditation than you and me.

What exactly are the scientific credentials of the CAS?

No, it was a political decision. But you're right that it wasn't made by Caster.

Let me rephrase, all woman competing at elite level have some sort of genetic variation, Caster just more so.

So CAS made this decision purely from a human rights perspective?

VoR wrote:

I don't know. Probably start taking part in women's middle distance foot races.

What I said was in response to the statements about being gay and anything to do with gender identity "destroying" the West. I was saying that people are often born that way and was trying to say that if the tables were turned, eg if you're a guy and in love with a woman and society decided that wasn't ok, what would you do. Nothing to do with athletics really. God do you really think anyone actually wants to be gay when they have to face all of this shit?! Think about it, imagine being in high school and for e.g. being a lesbian and having to hide it and pretend to be "normal" and like boys when you're 13, it's HORRIBLE.

And btw, you cannot get testes without being a Y chromosome-bearer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testis_determining_factor

Yes, it lives on the y chromosome. So, at the minimum, giving the widest margin for femininity, Semenya would be an XXY. No one knows yet but what we do know is that there is a Y chromosome in there.

Baloney wrote:

These girls need to stop whining, and instead man-up and grow a pair.

Ha!

Justice4caster wrote:

Celebrate Caster overcoming social and probably racial discrimination to get where she is. No easy feat. It's good that there are people willing to fight for her rights. And tonight she did all of the people who value all humans equally proud.

Give it up Elizabeth Warren we all known it's you.

Do all of those women have a pair of testes sitting inside of them pumping out testosterone? And don't give me that BS. about 99.9% of elite women have genes. 99.9% of them don't all have undescended testes. Even the fittest CrossFit women look like women with lot's of muscle, as opposed to tennage and young adult males in bone structure.

And, can someone tell me if they even know for sure that Semenya is not an XY? I thought the chromosome makeup was never revealed?

f*k sharpe wrote:

Let me rephrase, all woman competing at elite level have some sort of genetic variation, Caster just more so.

No.

All human beings are genetically unique (except for identical twins).

That doesn't mean all human beings should be allowed to take part in the women's 800m.

El Keniano wrote:

doot doot wrote:

Got a thing for ol Margie Wambui? 🍆🍆🍆

Nah, Maggie's all yours. I'm more of a Brittney Reese kind of guy myself.

What about Jungfleisch?

Lynsey Apple wrote:

Lynsey's Adam's Apple is quite large.

http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article6056434.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/Lynsey-Sharp.jpg

Ooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww

green salad wrote:

Think about it, imagine being in high school and for e.g. being a lesbian and having to hide it and pretend to be "normal" and like boys when you're 13, it's HORRIBLE.

I struggle to see what point you're trying to make. Should Olympic medals be awarded on the basis of who's had the worst childhood?

grecoGebdeze wrote:

And btw, you cannot get testes without being a Y chromosome-bearer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testis_determining_factor

Yes, it lives on the y chromosome. So, at the minimum, giving the widest margin for femininity, Semenya would be an XXY. No one knows yet but what we do know is that there is a Y chromosome in there.

Yes, but you can have a Y chromosome and not have testes. So that doesn't prove much.

Chromosomal testing is not the right answer.

Who cares, let the sisters sort it, it's their problem.

But you can't have testes without a Y chromosome. Semenya is XXY at a minimum.

markschultz25 wrote:

But you can't have testes without a Y chromosome. Semenya is XXY at a minimum.

You can, the SRY gene (testivles) is usually on Y chromosome but can translocate to X

Called XX male syndrome

Personally I don't think that's semenyas situation but it could possibly be

Read this article for education on your ways of thinking

Found this amazing article online:

http://everydayfeminism.com/20...-athletes/

This really is an excellent article. I like this part the best

"2. Ask: “What does racism and nationalism have to do with my ignorance and comfort with questioning, if not humiliating, others?”"

I think that explains most of the narrow mindedness that goes on around here.

Clinical diagnosis

Standard XX karyotype in two tissues (with at least one, or both, containing the male SRY gene)

Male external genitalia, sometimes showing hypospadias

Two testes which may or may not have descended the inguinal canal. Most XX males have descended testes.

Absence of Müllerian tissue

That would rule out Semenaya. No male external genitalia, correct?

Justice4caster wrote:

This really is an excellent article. I like this part the best

"2. Ask: “What does racism and nationalism have to do with my ignorance and comfort with questioning, if not humiliating, others?”"

Are you Godfrey Elfwick?