Harrison 12.20 WR

Amazing time. I'm happy for her.

I continue to lean stronger toward a 2+1 system, although I agree with the poster who said that the Olympics are not the be all and end all. They are pretty dang important and awesome, though...

worth some analysis

Keni had poor RT at 0.149 out in 6 when inner 3 lanes recorded coupla 0.11+

she was 6th of 9 for RT

this indicates signal bias in transmission to outer lanes

i proffer, that if indicates microphone bias

Keni wouda likely run, if in any of inner 3 lanes

12.18

Keni had less wind than donko, 0.3 to 0.63, worth another 0.02s superiority

however, donko had a 12.27 into a 1.2 !!!

worth under 12.2 if 0.3 wind

however, that era's problem was lack of RT published & i suspect the 0.100s-RT rule was never seriously enforced at the time as i doubt anything other than big, medal meets + zurich, went for the cost of the extra of an RT with bandits like mark mcoy & colin jackson getting away with murder

someone look up jackson's RT in his outrageous 7.30 ???

is there a vid ???

the implication is that i have never seen iaaf publish data about donko's RT in any of her WRs

my conclusion is that no RT tech at those runs, but just the auto-timing

the -> is that her runs maya had seriously sub-0.100s, or "flyers", but no hometown judge going to DQ her

Keni's slower wind that meant her time was worth ~ 0.02s quicker if same compared to donko, but unfortunately, the "proper" track stadiums are enclosed, so nothing above coupla tenths shoud ever register, which is correct environment for track

as close to 0 wind as possible for all further meets, forever, woud be aim

Keni, if in lane 1 - 3, with same wind as donko, shouda run

~ 12.16

a ~ quote from iaaf WR book ( link, which has been posted many times before ), for a serious men's indoor 60h WR :

then we go to colin's 7y later run in '94 of tying 7.36 with again no RT

we still have current position of '94wr of 7.30 with absolutely no RT at all !!!

the only vid i can find is last coupla secs :

the assertion/conclusion is, that you need to, in absence of a listed RT, add something like

~ 0.1s

to any

60/100/110/200/400 of '70's/'80's/'90s

some of those runs looked clocked whilst starter had not even taken full puff on his Gitanes before firing...

former wall streeter wrote:

werwerewr wrote:

More proof that our system for Olympic Qualifying is set up so that we send a weaker team than we could. Not just in this event, but numerous events. Other countries obviously have less competitive teams, but they make sure their system allows them to put their best foot forward.

I'm all ears as to how you wish to choose the team.

Top 2 automatic qualifiers

3rd team member - avg of top 5 performances in the 14 months preceding the Olympics start date.

Thoughts?

Huh my word! wrote:

Holy Moly.....

Not following the sprints, my first thoughts were "that's a hell of a time for 5000m" and "who the hell is Harrison?"

Big Ears wrote:

First two at the trials, another to be added at a later cut off date, that date being London Diamond League.

You don't see any problems with this? LOL!

acebond wrote:

former wall streeter wrote:

I'm all ears as to how you wish to choose the team.

Top 2 automatic qualifiers

3rd team member - avg of top 5 performances in the 14 months preceding the Olympics start date.

Thoughts?

Yeah. It's stupid.

Trail Cat wrote:

Misses the team, WR a week later. Unprecedented. The only parallel I can think of is when Komen was left off the Kenyan team in '96 and blew up the 3K/5K

Or when Dan O'Brien missed the 1992 team and set the world record that summer.

Or when Moses Kiptanui missed the 1992 Kenyan team and set the WR that summer.

I'm pretty sure every country has named their team by now anyways. If you can't get top 3 at the mini opympics (USA champs), then you have certainly not qualified for the Olympics. Imagine sending the 'best NFL team ever' to the super bowl, even though the lost the previous week in the AFC or NFC championship. Deserving yes, fully qualified NO.

molespokeaboutballs. wrote:

clarity please wrote:

Peculiar, huh?

Nothing peculiar. Womens' 100 h is strogner in the US than it will be in the Olympics. She had a bad day and was beaten. The lady who beat her will likely take the gold.

Sprinting is not like jogging. There is no room for mistakes or error.

The mistake he is what we call call a missed peak. Cleary her coach missed timing for her peak at the trials. She should have a had a peak for the trials. Had the capability but bad timing. Take away is still good, your an Olympian for life, a medalist for life she will get that chance again in four years. She is a world record holder for life, sure it will get broken, but she can always say I held the world record, not just the fastest on the day but the faster ever!

Trombone Sammy wrote:

Why are the hurdles so low?

That's a good question. It certainly changes the event.

Rato_ wrote:

Is this not a good argument against the American system of selection. It's not just the team, but you have deprived the world of a chance to watch the best in the event at the pinnacle of the sport.

Not at all. The Olympics is about racing. Not time trialling. Its pressure and competition. Not exhibition.

She caved under the pressure. And the 100 m h in the USA final was stronger than the Olympic final will be.

I like watching hurdlers run FAST. Ask Jasmine Stowers if the hurdles are too low, heh.

Keni says she's going after the 400H record next year:

http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/ex-cats/article91528972.html

Did American not send four to this event at the Beijing World Champs - Brianna Rollins going on a wild card as reigning World Champion, I think?

Would it be difficult for the IAAF to have in place a policy of handing out wild cards for any athlete who sets a WR in Olympic year? It is not as though it would be needed often, but nobody wants to see a new world record holder left off their Olympic team.

world champs questions wrote:

Did American not send four to this event at the Beijing World Champs - Brianna Rollins going on a wild card as reigning World Champion, I think?

Would it be difficult for the IAAF to have in place a policy of handing out wild cards for any athlete who sets a WR in Olympic year? It is not as though it would be needed often, but nobody wants to see a new world record holder left off their Olympic team.

It's not an IAAF issue. It would be an IOC issue. The IOC is the limiter when it comes to athletes competing in particular sports.

The IOC doesn't particularly care about the who is on or off a particular country's team with a few exceptions for those who draw a lot of attention such as Usain Bolt. Nobody but hardcore fans have any idea who Keni Harrison is.

Right now the women's 100m hurdles will not have both the WR holder and defending World Champion even entered in the event.

....and it won't matter at all to the overwhelming majority of those watching the Olympics.

question ........

how often does the clock fail to stop like it did

during this race and why

And if so is it possible to manipulate the time by + - 0.05 to 0.10

why ask as simply dont trust iaaf anymore and their agenda against russia

or past russian influenced countries and any attempt

to get rid of any of their long standing records by various means .

the womens hurdles was the obvious target with past few close times

or 800m record by allowing intersex athletes ,etc.

200m record could go if fast bouncy track and an even more doped up schippers.

former wall streeter wrote:

Right now the women's 100m hurdles will not have both the WR holder and defending World Champion even entered in the event.

Or the reigning Olympic champ - Sally Pearson is out with a hamstring injury (and never really recovered after her awful fall last year anyway).