agip wrote:
1) It's weird and bad that an entire olympic team in an event was born overseas.
2) It's particularly bad that the whole team is East African born
3) It's also bad that the same problem is happening at the European champs
4) It will be progressively harder for pro track to attract fans if the winners are all born in East Africa, even in Europe and American championships.
Good riddance to those fans.
I checked it out. He's got pretty shaky grammar for someone with a four year degree from UNC Greensboro, he's not funny, and there's not much on there about being a soldier--allegedly his profession. Yeah pretty sure the Army thing is just cover for an Obama style scam intended to dispossess actual Americans. There's also some megalomania there, and I don't get why someone who had a full ride to a good school had to enlist in the Army after graduation anyhow. What's up with that? Didn't he study? And what All American kid tweets about European soccer and Swahili, which doesn't impress me. Swahili's a gross language Americans don't care about. American kids study European languages. Naw, not one of us. Doesn't belong, sorry. These Kenyans taking Olympic spots at the trials is a huge rip off.
ChelimoFanClub wrote:
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:Evan Jager was born in Africa? Galen Rupp?
Shut up and go away.
Also, all of these Army guys are not the same. Hillary Bor isn't even in WCAP! He had quit running before he joined the army. He just started running again to compete in Army race. And he was just training for a few hours before working a full time job. He's practically the American Kawauchi.
We shouldn't send him to the Olympics to represent the US simply because his first name is Hillary.
Who said that these guys are short and light that they cannot drag military gear? Do you know that there are less than 100 pounds weight women in the US Army team now who are eligible to go through ranger school and are already infantry? Do you think they give them less gear or are they stronger than these fit guys that can make the Olympics team? Wow!
Do you really want skinny amricans to rep our country...?
US Army Kenyans wrote:
Also - how are these guys US Soldiers? They are 5 foot nothing and a 100 and nothing. I would think they'll have trouble just hauling all the gear required. Do we really want these skinny, short guys representing US on the battle field? Come on now.
Jeffy wrote:
Who said that these guys are short and light that they cannot drag military gear? Do you know that there are less than 100 pounds weight women in the US Army team now who are eligible to go through ranger school and are already infantry? Do you think they give them less gear or are they stronger than these fit guys that can make the Olympics team? Wow!
lmao these guys thinking that a 10k olympian couldn't hump with a pack for 12mi at 15min mile pace. come on give me a break, I bet Chelimo & co destroy their unit on ruck marches.
So no native Americans!
You relocated 'Europeans like to pull the draw bridge up!
Where have you been these last decades when MLB, NBA and NHL have been recruiting players from overseas? Why not complain and American-made movies using actors from overseas.Why not complain about NASA recruiting talent from WWII Germany.etc, etc.
Qualifying Standards Ignored?? wrote:
It started in the NCAA when coaches who could not develop talent started importing talent and taking scholarship money away from the children of families that paid taxes for over 18 years.
Coaches that were incompetent went overseas to buy NCAA titles so AD's could increase budgets and improve their own paychecks and careers.
Then several agents (Hebron Group is an example) started bringing over hired guns to dominate many of the local road races - again aided by Race Director's who wanted to attract "elite" runners and ignored charges of doping and provided funding to get better times - the locals that provide the $ to the sponsors and local businesses no longer had any chance to win prizes
It then expanded into groups like the Army where it was easier to build a squad of Kenyan runners to claim Olympic spots. Any poster on LR could be a World Class recruiter by leveraging the most powerful incentives available (fast track citizenship, post military benefits, world class training facilities and resources, and big paychecks to send back to families in Kenya). Every WCAP athlete should have to serve at least 50% of their enlistment term prior to having access to WCAP $$$$ and then have a 12 month period to achieve WCAP standards or you are out (Paul Katam)
If you cannot Make America Great Again then BUYING success it is an easy out and America can applaud the ill begotten gains of Recruiters that decided to take the easy path to success
Your bloviating Fuhrer wannabe Donald Trump can't make you white boys
run fast,you just don't have the necessities.Unfortunately for you,there is
no gerrymandering in sports.
US Male Distance Team (3k Steeple, 5k, 10k, Marathon):
East African: 7
Aryan: 3 (Rupp on two teams)
Don Cabral: 1
The only reason they join is to become Americans. Only the difference between you and them is, they know thexactly and privileged of becoming americans and they will do anything including serving 4 years in the military to become American's something most of you white people take it for granted and thinkingyou have all the rights because you happendix to be born here. And I wonder why most of you lazy ass people complain for every little thing. You know what will happen, once this people finished serving they will come aND take you job too. Because they understand the importance of it.
http://www.scout.com/military/...s-military
MAVNI recruits have performed above average in a number of areas, Army data shows. They scored higher on military entrance tests for “trainability,†have about four more years of education than the non-MAVNI recruits, and are more likely to have a masters degree. Some recruits have graduated from MIT, Harvard, and
Free Advise, if you don't understand just Google, I hate when White look stupid when they are supposed to be naturally smart why? because they think they are smarter than anyone else.
So... sue the U. S.
you white people take it for granted and thinkingyou have all the rights because you happendix to be born here. And I wonder why most of you lazy ass people complain for every little thing. You know what will happen, once this people finished serving they will come aND take you job too... I hate when White look stupid when they are supposed to be naturally smart why? because they think they are smarter than anyone else.
You're hostile, crazy, and you seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder when it comes to white people. I hope you don't take that military training I'm paying for and go all Micah Xavier Johnson on us!
agip wrote:
4) It will be progressively harder for pro track to attract ^racist and/or xenophobic^ fans if the winners are all born in East Africa, even in Europe and American championships.
Fixed that for you. At the just completed trials, the winner was born in East Africa in exactly one event. That winner has been a US citizen for more than a decade, having married an American and raised children here. Way to rip that strawman to shreds, agip.
To trump train and another poster - you are both simply wrong.
Africans, specifically Kenyans, are moving to many countries to run - Denmark, Qatar, France to name a few. They are many times easier to gain citizenship than US.
More importantly focus should be on hill, huling, Leslie and others who simply ran terrible races. Had they run better this argument wouldn't exist. The African runners did nothing crazy fast - they simply didn't choke.
I'm a big fan of Lopez Lomong. He didn't make it but his story is amazing. If you can't support him as an American then you need to be on the other side of trumps wall.
The IOC needs to lift the three athletes per country limit. Let anyone who can meet the A standard compete. Then Kenyans wouldn't be looking for other countries to run for.
The IOC needs to lift the three athletes per country limit. Let anyone who can meet the A standard compete. Then Kenyans wouldn't be looking for other countries to run for.
This about the WCAP athletes:
http://kxan.com/2016/07/13/meet-some-of-the-u-s-soldiers-competing-in-rio/
themanontherun wrote:
Likability isn't what we're upset about. Race isn't what we're upset about. It's the sense that the people representing our country don't feel like people we can identify with. That intersects with race, nationality, etc. of course, but that's not the central element.
How American Indians, African Americans, and all the other cultures feel besides whites.
I feel like I haven't heard a good description of these guys' actual lives in the army. I am sure they get out of some stuff to do training but I don't really have a problem with that. What kinda stuff do they get to skip and what kinds of things are they still responsible for? I think I saw one of them is a 'security intelligence' person or something like that. Basically, how do these guys' lives differ from all the others on their base? Are they able to get sleep?
FWIW I have met one of these guys a few times and I really like him.