Beqele Fan wrote:
There's definitely a nonsense reason why Bekele is left out, but his tribe can't really be the reason because the other 3 selected (Lemi, Abera, and Feyisa) are of the same tribe as Bekele's, which they're all Oromo,...
Could the nonsense reason possibly, just possibly, be that Bekele was totally uncompetitive against likely medal contenders in the race he ran to qualify for Rio, while the three selected for the team all won their races?
..yawn ..who gives a shit if one the biggest doped up fvkers runs..?! Suck me no one cares about drugged up has beens.
Heartbroken!i wrote:
Ethio wrote:you are wrong
King Geb and Bekele have always been great teammates. They not only do team work in global races, but they work together even in individual races (like golden league races). Just watch this (especially starting at 3:00). When trying to take down the then best 5k runner, look how Geb and Bekele work together (tho the plan still wasn't enough). Geb pushes the pace and moves out of the way for Bekele to pass in the last 200m.
https://youtu.be/rU9U2aB-T6U
The last time Geb and Bekele competed together was in 2013, at the Great North Run Half Marathon, and they did show a teamwork to take down Farah, Geb making sure the pace's fast all the way through and when Bekele finally took the lead with a mile to go, Geb got out of the way for Bekele to look out for Farah.
Best teammates!
El Keniano wrote:
What if the current selection does well and somehow pulls out a win? Will all be forgiven? At least Ethiopia doesn't have politicians running in Rio like our Wesley.
What if Wesley wins? will he be forgiven? Kipchoge will win this, I don't see any body that will challenge him on the final kilometers.
Good points. It's up to a country to pick a team. The poster is better off arguing for different events For example:- Get rid of the 10000 and replace it with XC (more runners racing for individual or team titles)- Allow a team score in the marathon and add more runners like xc- Add distance relays or an EkidenEach idea had its pros and cons and I don't love all of them but at least it does not get IOC involved in the issues of individual countries.
Dumb idea wrote:
Disgraceful_Admin wrote:
"I also think that the International Olympic Committee or the IAAF should step in when situations get like this and add a wild card spot or two, especially for former Olympic Champions."
This is utterly stupid for numerous reasons:
1) There is already an international court for arbitration in sport.
2) Past Olympic champions only need to train to peak once every four years whilst everyone else has to qualify.
3) Ken. B. isn't currently defending Oly, champ at anything. His world records were over 10 years ago!! And these were in the 5000m and 10000m.
4) The current IAAF system of allowing defending champs free qualification to the next world champs, is the single biggest issue ruining the world champs. Allowing Jamaica and the US in the sprints and Ethiopia, Kenya and Morocco in distance events, particularly the latter allows for extreme team tactics whereby two takeout an excellent individual solely representing another country via boxing them in, whilst the other two gallop off to win gold and silver (and even bronze). Just look at the Olympic cycling road race where riders slow up the chasing peloton. Look at the 2005 WCs were the now disgraced Russians won the women's races with four in the race. The $ from medals was funnelled back into the systemic doping body. Added to the feed back loop encompassing number 2).
5) Where does this end, can Australia etc send four in swimming events, China send four for table tennis and diving, Iran and Kazakhstan in weightlifting. Where will it end and bankrupt Brazil can't afford the Olympics at the current size!!!
6) The IOC and IAAF are corrupt and we need less things for them to oversee not more.
soooo, has the Ethiopian federation responded to the protest or released any statement? or are they usually non-responsive about things like this?
Tron wrote:
soooo, has the Ethiopian federation responded to the protest or released any statement? or are they usually non-responsive about things like this?
Well, i guess i can answer my own questions
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2016/06/10/more-sports/track-field/despite-protests-bekele-wont-receive-spot-ethiopian-olympic-team/#.V1lgC_krKhc:(
anyone want to translate (summarize) what was said by kenenisa and haile? i assume this was the talk from the protest the other day
https://www.facebook.com/diretube/videos/vb.48789244586/10154468796529587/?type=2&theater
Continuing incompetence is the reason for the protests, and doesn't put a stop to them.
Heartbroken!i wrote:
King Geb and Bekele have always been great teammates. They not only do team work in global races, but they work together even in individual races (like golden league races). Just watch this (especially starting at 3:00). When trying to take down the then best 5k runner, look how Geb and Bekele work together (tho the plan still wasn't enough). Geb pushes the pace and moves out of the way for Bekele to pass in the last 200m.
https://youtu.be/rU9U2aB-T6U
Geb should have been DQ'ed for that.
Thanks for the link, Tron.
"The EAF laid down a set of rules for qualifying for Rio — and Bekele didn’t meet them. The criteria included number of wins in major marathons, results from the world championships last year, and best marathon times in competition over the last two years. Bekele’s injury-enforced absence over the last 12 months meant he didn’t qualify on those rules.
“He (Bekele) has a big place in our athletics history but he has failed to qualify as per our requirements,†Ethiopian Athletics Federation president Alebachew Nigusse said at a news conference. “That’s final and there will be no re-run of the marathon results. We couldn’t really change the criteria again to bring him back just because he is Kenenisa. We are sorry but that’s not possible.â€"
Things seem to have changed for the better at the EAF. Props for them to sticking to their guns and not putting someone on the team just because of his name.
[quote]survey says wrote:
"The EAF laid down a set of rules for qualifying for Rio — and Bekele didn’t meet them. The criteria included number of wins in major marathons, results from the world championships last year, and best marathon times in competition over the last two years. Bekele’s injury-enforced absence over the last 12 months meant he didn’t qualify on those rules." [\quote]
Hah, all these so called "criterias" were set up to be against Bekele. In fact, they were set up after Bekele's complains, as a response to Bekele's arguments. If he'd known this "criteria" before London, he wouldn't even have competed in London with that little training and high risk of injury.
survey says wrote:
Thanks for the link, Tron.
"The EAF laid down a set of rules for qualifying for Rio — and Bekele didn’t meet them. The criteria included number of wins in major marathons, results from the world championships last year, and best marathon times in competition over the last two years. Bekele’s injury-enforced absence over the last 12 months meant he didn’t qualify on those rules.
“He (Bekele) has a big place in our athletics history but he has failed to qualify as per our requirements,†Ethiopian Athletics Federation president Alebachew Nigusse said at a news conference. “That’s final and there will be no re-run of the marathon results. We couldn’t really change the criteria again to bring him back just because he is Kenenisa. We are sorry but that’s not possible.â€"
Things seem to have changed for the better at the EAF. Props for them to sticking to their guns and not putting someone on the team just because of his name.
You know the athletics federation president & his technical advisor appointed the post because athletics are their hobby?
what about kenny b going as a refugee status or whatever? there has to be a way he can run and shove it all back in their faces
quickly get some lame country citizenship, like fiji or something
disgraceful_admin wrote:
Olympic Wild Card Qualifications
Auto-qualifier: An Olympic Gold Medalist or Olympic Record Holder in any event, is automatically qualified for the Olympics regardless of home national selection rules if he/she has the qualifying A mark for an event of choice. This auto-qualifier does not count toward those athletes a country is allowed to send.
Qualification by Panel of Judges: An Olympic Medalist or Record Holder without the standard A mark can appeal independently to the IAAF for Wild Card selection if the home nation does not select the Olympic team with a home trial.
I am interested to see what you all think of these hypotheticals.
That doesn't get Bekele in the Olympic marathon, which is what he wants to run.
Ethio wrote:
You know the athletics federation president & his technical advisor appointed the post because athletics are their hobby?
Ethio, are you able to translate and summarize the above link i posted above with Kenenisa's and Haile's speeches the other day at the protest?
Tron wrote:
Ethio wrote:You know the athletics federation president & his technical advisor appointed the post because athletics are their hobby?
Ethio, are you able to translate and summarize the above link i posted above with Kenenisa's and Haile's speeches the other day at the protest?
Haile was basically said, the federation is full of people without any knowledge about athletics, at one point he was saying the technical director appointed because athletics was his hobby. And he want those people to resign and replaced by professionals to save the future of Ethiopian athletics. And he didn't understand why Kenenisa is left out of the team, and said if he was the selector kenenisa would be his number one choice.
The other thing he talked was about the Ethiopian athlete union. Their
president is Sileshi Sihine, and Haile accusing Sileshi becoming a part of the problem by receiving funding and his personal office from the athletics federation by going against most athlete that wants to rent their own office and fund their own expenses to become independent. It looks like Sileshi has never voiced or submitted any complaint to the federation, basically Haile was saying Sileshi is a part of the federation now and he wants to establish a new union that work for the athlete. On the same day they select 10 people including Haile, kenenisa and some previous Ethiopian coaches to facilitate for the establishment of the new union. On the other note Haile said this time the Ethiopian men team might not win any medal
In his speech Kenenisa said he is not interested anymore to run in Rio, even they call him back. He just doing this to encourage the other athletes and the young runners to stand up for themselves and not to get discouraged.
The above is a kind of summery
Ethio wrote:
Tron wrote:Ethio, are you able to translate and summarize the above link i posted above with Kenenisa's and Haile's speeches the other day at the protest?
Haile was basically said, the federation is full of people without any knowledge about athletics, at one point he was saying the technical director appointed because athletics was his hobby. And he want those people to resign and replaced by professionals to save the future of Ethiopian athletics. And he didn't understand why Kenenisa is left out of the team, and said if he was the selector kenenisa would be his number one choice.
The other thing he talked was about the Ethiopian athlete union. Their
president is Sileshi Sihine, and Haile accusing Sileshi becoming a part of the problem by receiving funding and his personal office from the athletics federation by going against most athlete that wants to rent their own office and fund their own expenses to become independent. It looks like Sileshi has never voiced or submitted any complaint to the federation, basically Haile was saying Sileshi is a part of the federation now and he wants to establish a new union that work for the athlete. On the same day they select 10 people including Haile, kenenisa and some previous Ethiopian coaches to facilitate for the establishment of the new union. On the other note Haile said this time the Ethiopian men team might not win any medal
In his speech Kenenisa said he is not interested anymore to run in Rio, even they call him back. He just doing this to encourage the other athletes and the young runners to stand up for themselves and not to get discouraged.
The above is a kind of summery
Thanks!!
i agree with spencer wrote:
what about kenny b going as a refugee status or whatever? there has to be a way he can run and shove it all back in their faces
quickly get some lame country citizenship, like fiji or something
This is a great idea!
Kenenisa Bekele can get refugee status from Ethiopia. He can come to the United States and stay at my house. The altitude will be perfect for Kenenisa.
We will have Renato Canova send a special training schedule and we are all set!
What are Kenenisa's favorite foods that he likes to eat?
Ethio wrote:]
Haile was basically said, the federation is full of people without any knowledge about athletics, at one point he was saying the technical director appointed because athletics was his hobby.
The other thing he talked was about the Ethiopian athlete union. Their president is Sileshi Sihine, and Haile accusing Sileshi becoming a part of the problem, basically Haile was saying Sileshi is a part of the federation now and he wants to establish a new union that work for the athlete.
So Haile is upset that Mr. Silver is in a position of power, not him? And so he wants to discredit him and launch a rival organization to take over? Don't you think being more comcerned with who somebody is instead of how they performed is at all problematic? As in, it opens the door to exactly the kind of favoritism and corruption that people seem to be upset about?