at least there is now something to rival the shadow of genzebe dibaba's dominance (questionable) what an effed up sportpoor ajee wilson is right
Hinckley's Friend wrote:
She fades for a period of years, after all the controversy, and then comes back with these times. months before the Olympics. Am I the only one suspecting either she has been sandbagging previously, or something else?
TUE wrote:
50.76 is scary for the top 400 runners. It is nearly a two-seconds improvement in PR.
When did the pharmaceutical intervention end? I think "she" has been training in this unrestrained state only this one winter, right?
This isn't drugs. It's 100% natural. That's the bad part.
I'm so glad that she had the balls to stand up for being a woman!
Race walking = person who walks the fastest without running
Women running = person who is most like a man without actually being one
Men running = person who takes the most "supplements" without going over the agreed upon limit.
In every arbitrary division there is that limit...
Metric Miler wrote:
TUE wrote:50.76 is scary for the top 400 runners. It is nearly a two-seconds improvement in PR.
When did the pharmaceutical intervention end? I think "she" has been training in this unrestrained state only this one winter, right?
This isn't drugs. It's 100% natural. That's the bad part.
Metric Miler misses the point as usual.
shorts table wrote:
Metric Miler wrote:This isn't drugs. It's 100% natural. That's the bad part.
Metric Miler misses the point as usual.
Misread his post. I thought he said 'unrestrained state' as referring to the locale she has been training over winter.
RacingtheCanteloupe wrote:
The Sports Gene has a great section on this.
There are multiple genetic pathways for females to end up with high testosterone levels. Most famous is the XXY, but there are other additional ways that are much more genetically subtle and difficult to test for. Ban those women too? This is such a mess. There is no question high testosterone levels give certain females an advantage over "regular" ones. But isn't that just another form of being a genetic outlier, like Kevin Durant's freakishly long arms and tall height or Asbel Kiprop's picture-perfect running physique?
There is a girl at the high school where I coach who is a perfect example. She DOMINATES basketball based on physique alone. She does things other girls simply cannot do. She can toss them around like rag dolls, and despite not being much of a lifter, has muscle definition you just usually don't see on women (and has since she was a kid). She is on the genetic version of testosterone therapy--it is plain to see for anyone with eyeballs.
Don't lose sight of the fact that testosterone levels are highly variable in males, too. There is high selection for high production of testosterone in any sport that requires strength or quick muscle recovery for training (so, all of them).
There is simply no question that a critical question for women who compete clean is: how much testosterone does your body produce? It's the ultimate performance enhancer. There is no way to make something so highly genetically variable fair.
Not so fast my fine feathered friend. Basketball has instituted rules to negate (or diminish) your freakishly long-armed players - such as the 3 second in the paint rule, and the goal tending rule that blatantly favors the shooter rather than the defender.
Metric Miler wrote:
TUE wrote:50.76 is scary for the top 400 runners. It is nearly a two-seconds improvement in PR.
When did the pharmaceutical intervention end? I think "she" has been training in this unrestrained state only this one winter, right?
This isn't drugs. It's 100% natural. That's the bad part.
Didn't Caster win World Champs 800 in 2009? What was her 400 PB back then? Also, why the slump in performance (including London Olympics)?
Can anyone answer any of this.
50.76 from a standing start is a damn good time, irregardless.
DONT YOU BIGOTS SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS!! SHE IS A FINE YOUNG WOMAN!!!! SHE CAN USE ANY BATHROOM SHE WANTS!
rojo wrote:
My god. A negative split.
I know! Expect great things.
What would you expect if you saw Caster take off her panties?
Great things!
Wow it's almost as if she's a boy
Allyson Felix is not going to lose sleep over a 50.76
She will when Semenya improves to 48.x by the Summer.
Semenya, Niyonsaba and??
Because you have the Kenyan "lady" whose name escapes me,
Margaret Wambui
She uses the women's room unless someone confronts her... So it really just depends on the county/location.
messi wrote:
[quote]Metric Miler wrote:
Didn't Caster win World Champs 800 in 2009? What was her 400 PB back then? Also, why the slump in performance (including London Olympics)?
Can anyone answer any of this.
50.76 from a standing start is a damn good time, irregardless.
You really need to read the thread before asking this question. But the short answer is after she was found to be XXY, she was forced to go on female hormones. which coincided with her "slump" in performance. Last summer the court of sport arbitration ruled that she and those like her did NOT have to go on those hormones anymore. Hence the resurgence.
50.76 and she's not even done any speed work!!
Typical Letsrunner wrote:
50.76 and she's not even done any speed work!!
rofl
M.C. Confusing wrote:
You really need to read the thread before asking this question. But the short answer is after she was found to be XXY, she was forced to go on female hormones. which coincided with her "slump" in performance. Last summer the court of sport arbitration ruled that she and those like her did NOT have to go on those hormones anymore. Hence the resurgence.
Was the XXY determination ever officially reported anywhere? Is it just an educated guess on what transpired at the IAAF?
They only thing I ever heard from her camp was that Semenya identified herself as lesbian.