How far north are you?
How far north are you?
To the original author of this thread:
Please do not end your sentences with a preposition.
Thank you very much.
-40 sucks but I have done it many times. The worse I have ver had it was 10 days and I ran 10 miles a day in -35 to -40. It is very possible, not hard on your lungs and if you dress right not very uncomfortable. The part that was hard for me was thatmy shoes got too hard (frozen) and my lower legs were pretty tight afterwards. There was only a few inches of snow so the footing wasn't that bad either.
I will agree with the shoes. The cushioning certainly isn't as good. Running on icy roads, no matter how far, totally sucks. The wind sucks. But, the cold, sans wind, is tolerable. For you guys out there, make sure you protect your penis!
[quote]KudzuRunner wrote:
It was 23 degrees at 7 AM here in North Mississippi when I went out to run this morning. I ran 15 miles and felt great! I wore tights, three polypro longsleeve T's, a windbreaker, gloves, and a wool hat. Felt comfy and cozy the whole way.
3 long sleeve Ts & a wind breaker in 23 degree weather! Dude you had to be sweating buckets. I ran when it was -5 F & all I needed was one long sleeve & a one layer light weight wind breaker for the torso.
went out one night for a nice 8 miler. about half way through a car pulled up along side. the driver asked if I wanted a ride; told him no, I'm fine, thank you. he told me I better get home soon because he just heard on the radio that it was -2. I guess it didn't seem that bad to me because I was dressed appropriately and there was little wind.
another canadian wrote:
I am in the army and mostly run in the mornings and cross country ski (biathlon) in the afternoons. We are in Northern Ontario, and it is regularly -20 to -40 degrees celcius from January to March. Anybody calling BS, your mommy is calling you because it is bed time.
Haha, I call BS Canadian! Canada doesn't have an army!
Orville, I am aware of who you are. The reason I am not more trusting is quite a few people on here are full of a lot of BS. Everything gets exaggerated.
previously banned poster wrote:
I like Americans calling out Canadians on the weather - that is truly hilarious.
Montréal: Issued 03:45 PM EST Monday 17 January 2005
Tonight .. A few flurries ending early this evening. Clearing later on. Winds northwest 20 km/h. Low minus 24. High wind chill minus 34.
Tuesday .. Sunny. Winds west 20 km/h. High minus 19. High wind chill minus 36.
Wednesday .. Cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 23. High minus 9.
Thursday .. Sunny. Low minus 15. High minus 10.
Friday .. Cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 16. High minus 12.
Norman Wells: Issued 4.00 PM MST Monday 17 January 2005
Tonight .. A few clouds. Low minus 36.
Tuesday .. Sunny. High minus 32.
Wednesday .. Sunny. Low minus 34. High minus 30.
Thursday .. Sunny. Low minus 32. High minus 28.
Friday .. Sunny. Low minus 34. High minus 27.
You realize you are talking degrees C while most people here including the post about it being 9 degrees in montreal are talking about degrees F.
But you also need to realize that -40 degrees F is the same as -40 degrees C.
IOW's when you get close to -40 in either F or C they are very close to the same temperature.
I was bored today and have been amusing myself posting. I better get back to work tomorrow. Lets say that you aware of who I was or better still of who I purport to have been. Things do get changed and exaggerated with time. At a reunion I went to in Timmins in 2000. (Shania Twain attended.) I was told that the person I was talking to remembered things much differently than I. I now try and remember to always add that the facts I am reciting are as I remember them at the present time.
I do think that I remember racing five and ten mile races with the temperature at 0 degrees Fahrenheit or slightly below that. I also know that I am in Southern California, even now, because it is far too cold for me in the country of my birth.
No exageration to my running in -35 to -40F. -40F equals -40C. To bad if you think its BS. But in many parts of Canada it is reality and if you think otherwise it is just ignorance on your part. You don't have to strain too hard to find out what the temperature was all last week in northern British Columbia, Alberta and Manitoba. Many good distance runners have come from those parts and trained all year long (outside), everything from sub 4min milers to 28:10 10km. If it gets windy its whole a different story. I spent most of those those days trying to talk myself in to the runs and watching the weather waiting for it to warm up to -29 just once. It never happened. I gave up and ended up shortening my trip by about 20 days and headed south to where it was above freezing and I could run in shorts again and where we didn't have to shovel the snow off the track.
Hey Orville, you said, "We did not have a wind chill factor in those olden days." You did have a wind-chill in those days, it was just not calculated or reported. Yep, it's a technical difference, and clearly your intent was not to misrepresent. You Canadians speak a whole different language than those of us in the USA, so perhaps the language barrier was a factor. :-) (OK, I'm droning on minor drivel, please forgive me.) Meantime, quit gloating about your LA weather! Be well!
I seem to be having a bad day. Everything I say seems to be misconstrued. I agree that you ran in those temperatures. I did too! And there were very strong winds. I remember that while running in that southern city of Toronto, where it was warmer than the northland, I went out to do a long run one day in January in o degrees F and found the wind was so strong that I had to return home in one block. I than spent some time rolling around on the living room floor in pain.
As for wind chill, I was misleading. We had it! We just did not verbalize or count it or think about it. We had gales often in Toronto and being on Lake Ontario we had very damp cold winds in additon tothe cold temperatures. I will also admit that the colder temperature of the north was a dry cold but I feel that below zero is below zero.
I carried a little digital thermometer with me today on my run. It was about 13º F at home, but it got down to 3º F where I was running along a creek. I was very comfortable wearing Sporthill pants, and Craft windfront boxers and windfront undervest, two more layers on top under my training jacket, fleece hat and medium weight xc ski gloves. The other day it got as low as -12.5º F when I went xc skiing. I had to bundle up a bit more with loose tights under windfront Sporthills, same Craft underwear, a top layer, fleece jacket under xc ski training jacket, balaclava under the hat, warmer gloves, and I took out my ski goggles for fun. The coldest I've run in was around -25º F. I'm glad I don't live in Fairbanks, because it was pushing -50º F there last week.
Anything above 10º F is pretty comfortable and doesn't require you to bundle up like the Michelin Man.
Well I'm from California and we're seeing 50-65 degree days, not a problem at all. I was in Montana two weeks ago and I was running in 16-18degree wheather, so I'd say if you're used to those temps then it would have to be -something before it's too cold
BS Detector! wrote:
Yeh right! 45 below? Whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is totally possible. And what would Orville have to gain by being a braggart?
I have run in -20 deg Farh. before several times. It was -30 to -50 with the wind chill factor (depending on the day). I was young (15-17), and didn't have money for proper clothes, but did have a Brooks G.U.T.S. training suit that was half-Gore Tex on the jacket and that blocked the wind like nothing else I owned. It was too bad it blocked it in the least useful places. It was scary to see that if I was stuck outside in those conditions (not bundled up enough) that I would actually have died. I limited my runs to just 2-3 miles those days as I figured that even if I got frostbite I would make it back before the damage was too bad.
For those not from the North, when it is that cold and you are running, your face hurts really bad if it is exposed at all. people used to come up with stupid ideas like smearing vaseline all over your face. Now I see what to do: Wear a balaclava over your whole head and some lightweight goggles over your eyes and a very warm hat over the whole thing. Cover your hands with very warm mitts or gloves and wear 2-3 light, looser layers on top and on bottom. Last, make sure your feet are warmed up BEFORE you leave the house and have warm socks on. Your feet are so boney that they won't warm up once they are cold.
You learn a lot of lessons running quickly running in -30 to -40. The balaclava and the wool hat with some kind of glassess in case it is windy. The only exposed part of the body is the lips and it they are covered in vaseline just like the ears, fingertips, lower abdomen and of course, most importantly the boys. I would only use one or maybe two pairs of running socks and jump around in the garage for a few minutes before I went out. I seem to remember the temp in the garage was a balmy -10F. Felt kind of warm after the run.
i am live in Chicago ( i grew up here too). For the most part the winter (jan/feb) in college wasn't this bad (eastern PA). last year i ran when it was 4 degrees, and that run turned into a 6 mi tempo just to stay warm!
it has been rough at 2 to 12 degrees the last couple of days.
Note: for the sake of quality I have been running on a treadmill when it has been under 20. But i have really been able to push things approaching threshold, where I might not otherwise push things on the road, just by forcing myself to run a pace and hold it, keeping the heart rate at a an ok to hardish rate
Truth is Beauty wrote:Lots of BS on this thread, I must say.
-70 fahrenheit? Without windchill? Right. I think we can throw that out.
I live in the North, and -45 fahrenheit is abnormally cold. Yes, it gets cold in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, North Dakota, etc, but it rarely gets that cold. When it does, it is usually also coupled with strong winds further lowering the temp making any skin exposure prone to frostbite in minutes. At these temperatures you would need goggles to run.
I find it hard to believe someone would regularly run in
-45 f below weather. There are very few places in the US where it even gets that cold even once a year, unless you live in inland Alaska.
Buddy, this internet thingy is pretty neat - even in our igloos up in Canada we have it now. I expect most of us claiming the cooler temperatures are Canucks. In my case, it never gets that cold where I live today, but I've lived in northern Ontario and Winnipeg, and I've travelled throughout the arctic (for work), and run in most places I've stopped.
Growing up in northern Ontario (North Bay specifically - when I moved to Sault Ste Marie it didn't get quite as cold, due to lake effects), I can assure you it got in the -30 to -40 range (before factoring wind chill) several times per winter.
When I moved to Winnipeg in 1988, it was -35 the day I arrived, and stayed between -35 and -40 for a week before it warmed up to -25. It frequently, every winter, gets that cold. When you add any kind of wind, think colder...
I've also lived on both coasts, and it never gets that cold there.
But if you live in places where it gets cold, you either choose to not run (pansy choice), run on a treadmill (pansy choice unless you're running off an injury, or it's sheer ice), or you bundle up and get your ass outside.
You can dress for any cold weather conditions. As an example, we had a blizzard here a couple of days after Christmas. It only hit -10, but the wind was 50km/h gusting to 80. My wife and I both bundled up and braved the elements (much to the surprise and worry of the visiting in-laws. So even a GIRL can do it.
I choose not to dress for it when it dips below -30. So I admit, I'm a bit of a pansy when it gets cold. But perhaps not as big a one as you or some of the other posters.... :-)