What dog breed could run fastest 5K? Ignoring greyhound, whippet & any specialty racing dog.

That's guesswork. Just like all those soccer players covering 9 miles per game.

dkafmvoawekfpwa wrote:

FWIW - for centuries, the border collie would cover 35-50 miles per day on the English hillsides herding cattle etc. From my experience - distance is not a problem for them -

Must have been restless cattle. Why would a dog need to cover anywhere close to that amount of mileage?

Most of the suggested dogs don't neccessarily scream "manliness" . Might as well get a cat.

Pound for pound, nothing beats a pit pull. They're great sprinters, the can run forever, they can jump incredibly high, pull a multiple of their weight and also they offer GREAT PROTECTION. Needless to say, they're also the most BUFF/SHREDDED of all breeds.

Rustlers Rhapsody wrote:

dkafmvoawekfpwa wrote:

FWIW - for centuries, the border collie would cover 35-50 miles per day on the English hillsides herding cattle etc. From my experience - distance is not a problem for them -

Must have been restless cattle. Why would a dog need to cover anywhere close to that amount of mileage?

Maybe they just did laps around them

We own 2 Vizslas both around 3 years old. The run with me a lot, about 30-40 mpw. Like ROJO said they actually run much more off the trails, so my 40 mpw is probably 50mpw - mostly fartlek training due to chasing squirrels, etc...One has run sub 4:00 during a 9 mile run - she did that with my wife while my wife rode a bike at 16-18mph. Both dogs have done 13 mile trail runs. We have a friend who has done 20 milers with his...I'll never do that but I can guarantee our could go that far and beyond at an incredible pace. I haven't seen the other breeds mentioned in the thread, but I'll put the Vizsla up against any other breed in 3200-10k-half marathon.

TurnItUp wrote:

Big deal. My English Pointer consistently outruns my horse.

English Pointer is the correct answer. Shorthairs have been crossbred with real pointers so many times that they are now just watered down EP's anyway.

I'm personally a shorthair guy, but if you are looking for the biggest running dog over 5k Pointers win. Easily. Nobody breeds Vizslas seriously enough. It's English Pointers then shorthairs.

The other answers on here are borderline retarded. Tracking dogs aren't fast. Huskys aren't fast. Cattle dogs run in circles.

My 190 lb. Great Dane....Pluto.

Wtfunny wrote:

malmo wrote:

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For 10k through marathon, i'd put my money or a border collie.

A border collie really isn't a long distance athlete. .

You're out of your effing mind! You've never run with one. A friend had a border collie who used to run us absolutely to shame. If we ran 22 miles the dog would cover at least 30, all of it sprints, in front, or behind, and not be tired at all.

This is right. wrote:

The other answers on here are borderline retarded. Tracking dogs aren't fast. Huskys aren't fast. Cattle dogs run in circles.

When it comes to sled dogs, Alaskan Malamutes are incredibly slow. Tried running with one once and gave up. They're great at hauling big load but that's it.

Siberian Huskies offer a great compromise between running, pulling and endurance but easily overheat unless it's sub freezing temps.

Alaskan Huskies on the other hand, they're straight up dope. They'd easily beat any vizsla.

Dillon Gracey wrote:

We own a Vizsla and it's been amazing to see her natural ability and desire to go for runs. She is still young so we only run about twice a week for a mile or two at a time to get her used to being on a leash. When we take her to open space off leash she runs continuously until it's time to head home. Next time we go I'll throw a GPS watch on her collar and see how fast she runs just roaming the fields on her own.

Long term we'd like for Neely to do some 5k's and 10k's with her for fun. Are there actual dog/owner road records recorded anywhere?

According to this article, the current human/dog mile record is 4:15.

I think I've read somewhere that Ian Dobson ran 15:30 or so for a 5k with his dog. Not sure how long ago that was

V's could easily run a WR for 10K. Most dogs are smart enough that they will not run until death, or as long as as it isn't too hot.

Dr. Butt, D.O. mentioned pointers - I had forgotten about them, no doubt, they would be at the top of the list.

Another thing, there are dog breeds and then there are subsets within the breed. For instance, with V's there are pets, show/conformation, and performance, with subsets like agility, hunt test and field trial.

Dogs that compete in field trials are incredible athletes. Essentially, if the dog doesn't run to the next county, it is considered to be no good.

The guy in the video below lives a couple of miles from my house. He roads his dog Solo 10 - 12 miles a few times a week. I road my Wimes off of my bike out on the dirt roads between the wheat fields. At one time I thought that my dogs were getting plenty of exercise by running with me. Once I began letting them run off leash while I rode my bike, I realized that they were basically jogging. Now, I have an attachment that mounts on the bike, which lets them do some of the work - it tires them out quicker and I don't have to spend so much time on the bike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHnaS3qXS8Y

Seems like the biggest determinate of the records would be the human, since the dog will always be faster. Like someone said earlier, they rode their bike with a dog for over a mile at 16-18mph. Records like this would rest solely on the owners ability to be a world class runner.

When I lived in Alaska I did some running of sleddogs. I did more of the distance type of running and husky's are your ultra types (without the truckers hats and calf warmers). They can TROT for a long time but not lope for that long. The serious "sprint" mushers race between 4 miles, for 4-6 dogs and 25 miles plus for the unlimited which may have 20+ dogs on the gangline. The most serious of these mushers primarily use german short hairs. I did some crunching of numbers from last seasons racing in Alaska, from different races. In the big races, with big teams the average mile time for the winning team was 3:03 per mile (and they look relaxed). The fewer dog teams over shorter distances, including skijoring were in the 3:20 to 4 flat per miles range. Those teams are only as fast as the slowest dog so an individual dog may get closer to 2:30 or under running free per mile. The dogs, like people can't keep up the fastest pace for that long, and in the case of a dog, a strong lope is what they'd likely do for a 5k. Even my own husky mutt following me on a snowmachine was at about 4:00 per mile when I kept it dialed back for 5 miles. Anyway I say german short hair. Some perdictions:

5k Dog

WR 8:00

AR 8:30

Elite/Pro/Dog Bootie sponsored 9:00

Sub Elite 9:30

College/Local Stud 10:00

HS 11:00

Local AG 12:00

Good 13:00

Hobby Trotters 14:00 - 15:00

XFIT dudes pitbull DNF, Gets one mile into race has to drop out. Goes to Vet and vet say's dogs cardiovascular system is not developed. Asks owner how far the dog walks are and owner reply's 50-100 meters. Vet says if you want the dog to live to a normal age you need to get a mile or more a day. We don't know if the owner has taken the vet's advice.

DG,It depends - if the dog is large enough and in shape enough to pull the person. If the dog can do the pulling, it becomes a matter of how fast can you "spin" or pick them up and put them down.I ran a race with one of my Weims and she pulled me to a sub 10:00 2 mile at altitude. At that time, I was nowhere near sub 10 shape. She was 72 lbs and ran with or pulled me, a few days per week, then normal off leash running on open space parks on the other days.

Dillon Gracey wrote:

Seems like the biggest determinate of the records would be the human, since the dog will always be faster. Like someone said earlier, they rode their bike with a dog for over a mile at 16-18mph. Records like this would rest solely on the owners ability to be a world class runner.

Google Bikejoring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVVNUhhaOc

Note - GSP.

Baltic Cup, Postołowo Poland, Trail 5.7km, Bike: Kross B+ 29er, Result: 11:34, 2nd Place

5.7K ... 11:34, 2nd place.

angry willy wrote:

Now, I have an attachment that mounts on the bike, which lets them do some of the work - it tires them out quicker and I don't have to spend so much time on the bike.

Actually a study of this has already been done. The Saluki is the fastest land animal for 5k, not just dogs.

angry willy wrote:

Google Bikejoring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVVNUhhaOc

Note - GSP.

Baltic Cup, Postołowo Poland, Trail 5.7km, Bike: Kross B+ 29er, Result: 11:34, 2nd Place

5.7K ... 11:34, 2nd place.

That is totally awesome! Wow! Is that a german shorthair, and mountain bike? It sounded like a cart. I love how the dog took the corners hahaha.

That would be 10:08 for a 5k, over mud and obstacles. I'd like a setup like that to "drive" around town, go shopping etc. :)

Incredible that you guys think that dogs bred to run around sniffing out birds and freezing in place can outrun a dog bred to outrun Gazelles and Hares in open country. Try to think and at least watch the Saluki videos.

We're not talking about pulling stuff, teams roped together or escorting a slow humans

People seem to think that going a bit faster than a human is epic.

A Saluki needs an actual motorized vehicle to keep up with it.