Cut from team

lol.

because college applications really check if you lied or not.

I didn't say skipping practice wasn't wrong, it's morally wrong but I was desperate to improve... My coach before season, track head coach told me they were going to ask her to step down but we couldn't find a coach... By they I mean athletic director and head track coach.

But I just feel like she personally dislikes me, otherwise the others who didn't go to practice also would have been cut and there were a lot that day

For years I am the State XC coaches HS organizer etc. I have found 95% of HS x/c coaches live in some world far from any reality. They also refuse to learn or even listen to greats brought in for a two day seminar. I mean greats brought in like Salazar, Hall, Deena etc. We speak with these HS coaches about why you would not want to attend. The responses we get are so insane and unimaginable it is frightening. These coaches know better and don't want to hear anything that Deena has to say. If I listed the responses we get no one would believe it. Suffice it to say, IMHO, YOU are what matters. Think. Your HS coaches will be out of your life for good, gone, and forgotten. If you want to help the mindset of the team and your an asset then great. To improve and be competitive you must train properly. Learn from the best, adapt, make your mistakes, compare and contrast advise. Pursue your deepest and sincere goals. Tempo runs, easy and hard long runs, repeat long xc ground intervals, peaking properly, rest and recovery. I have seen greats like Hall sit down with HS kids and ask how they are approaching and pursuing their Tempo run. The kids will say...what is a tempo run? You will be gone soon, hang in there do what you think is right. You want it go get it. Good luck!

If she dislikes you it's because of your shit attitude. If you want to run, stop turning everything into a conflict between you and the coach. Go apologize to her, say whatever it takes to get back on the team, work your ass off and be the most supportive athlete you can be. This idiot thing you're doing trying to turn the team against her won't get you anything, but it will ensure that she never lets you back on the team. If she's your coach, why do you want to make her hate you? Think long term; if you run for this team, you need this coach to be on your side.

High school Runner wrote:

I didn't say skipping practice wasn't wrong, it's morally wrong but I was desperate to improve... My coach before season, track head coach told me they were going to ask her to step down but we couldn't find a coach... By they I mean athletic director and head track coach.

If you're really concerned with running in college, most would rather you be under-trained and have room for improvement than have you get kicked off your HS team.

I'm on the line between "always listen to authority" and doing what's best for yourself long-term. I think you can find a happy medium.

Want to run hills? Incorporate them into your regular/easy runs. Want to run more mileage? Run more on your own time. Think your coach is giving you a crazy hard workout? Slow down on your easy runs or run less mileage that week. Still not happy? Communicate with your coach or quit the team yourself. Want to get cut and whine about it on LetsRun? Skip practices.

TheReality!! wrote:

Pursue your deepest and sincere goals....You will be gone soon, hang in there do what you think is right. You want it go get it. Good luck!

Be a hobby jogger!

TheReality!! wrote:

For years I am the State XC coaches HS organizer etc. I have found 95% of HS x/c coaches live in some world far from any reality.

These coaches know better and don't want to hear anything that Deena has to say.

With all due respect, Deena has little to offer a high school coach. She is a tremendous motivator and she is a running celebrity, but coaching high school is a different ball of wax.

Coaching high school athletes requires a VERY different skill set than coaching professional, sub elite, or college athletes.

Especially for generic public school teams.

I live in an area that barely has any hills so it's really hard. She wants low mileage but for my easy pace to be 6:00. And also, during summer, she said I can only run three days a week and can't lift weights otherwise I woulda also be cut off the team when I asked her for more milage

I'm not getting them against her, I'm getting them to support me by showing that I did not psychologically damage the team for missing practice. When she cut me one of her words were that she can take it because she is an adult but says that I scarred the other kids for life.

We literally only have two weeks left of season and she isn't in track at all. I'm a senior btw, and the only four year athlete on the team.

High school Runner wrote:

I live in an area that barely has any hills so it's really hard. She wants low mileage but for my easy pace to be 6:00. And also, during summer, she said I can only run three days a week and can't lift weights otherwise I woulda also be cut off the team when I asked her for more milage

How would she know what you do on your own time? If you're going to defy your coach, you should start with your own time, not skip practice.

I told her at first because she asked and then I learned not to tell her

High school Runner wrote:

I'm not getting them against her, I'm getting them to support me by showing that I did not psychologically damage the team for missing practice. When she cut me one of her words were that she can take it because she is an adult but says that I scarred the other kids for life.

People who are bad influences usually don't think they are but you are a bad influence on your team. You're four year senior. Every high school coach I know has talked about how "veteran" runners can set the tone for the younger people on the team and I've seen that at work myself.

The tone you've set is to not show up when you don't want to and not to run workouts that your team has been assigned if you don't like them. If the younger runners learn to do that sort of thing as well they're not learning to be good teammates and in a sense they have been psychologically damaged. If you don't think you've had an influence, note that you've said you weren't the only one to skip that practice so you did influence less experienced runners negatively.

You aren't the first high school runner who thinks his coach doesn't know what s/he is doing and you won't be the last. In a few cases that's probably true. In most cases it's just some big headed know it all not wanting to listen to anyone. Even if your situation falls into the first category, dealing with it by skipping a practice is not the way to approach the problem if you want to remain in the team. From what I'm reading here I probably would want you, and possibly some of the runners "supporting" you, off of the team too but I'd need to know the situation a lot better than I do.

All that aside, what did you expect to happen when you blew off that practice and took some of the team with you? What did you think your coach's reaction was going be especially as you'd already been called out twice before for not showing up when you were supposed to?

The only other times were during conditioning which shouldn't be mandatory. It's over half the team, so I really don't think I'm fully wrong.

I know you don't think you're fully wrong. That's irrelevant. You are a bad influence on the team and if you and your coach can't fix that problem she and the team are probably better off without you. And you didn't answer my question. Did you really think you could take some other runners, blow off practice and have no consequence and if so, why?

The more you talk and make excuses the more obvious it becomes that you're toxic to the team. It's the same thing your coach sees.

If you're so concerned about your college applications quit the XC team and go study for the SATs in your free time.

Both were wrong in their respective ways. The runner by skipping practice which is morally wrong. And the coach because she's not allowed to require Conditioning. That is literally illegal. The coach can't stop a runner from running whenever they want where ever they want given that it's not at the same time as practice. If you want more mileage, the coach should be willing to reason with you rather than neglect all the suggestions. If other coaches and athletic director can see that your coach is not qualified and want her fired the problem is the coach. Good luck with your issue.

I hope you get back on the team.

Kid - no offense but you sound like a f*cking retard in every one of your posts on here. Are you mentally handicapped in some way?

"Two kids told me they are quitting tomorrow due to injury...I don't think I've psychologically damaged the team...I am the only four year senior on the team...I want to have four continuous years of running on my college application"

wtf are you even talking about? It sounds like your team must be awful and you are likely a very bad runner as well. No college is going to give a sh!t that you had "four continuous years of running" on the cross country team when they read your sh!tty @ss essays that you hand in with your college application. You're clearly an idiot, face reality and pickup a job application from McDonalds.

p.s. - stop posting stupid sh!t on here an annoying the rest of us.