Could Rich Froning win gold in the Olympic Decathlon if he focused on it for 5 years?

Blahhhh wrote:

his 400m time is a staggering 65

that puts everything into perspective.

Decathlon is 40% running. Froning is slow. Forget it.

PB-

What I'm hearing from you is that you want direction because it feels like trivial work and you want to see big change.

Keep moving forward. I'll write something that might help and get it to you in an hour.

The decathlon WR for a 60 year old is 7773 points, which consisted of

100m 13.01

Long jump 5.15m

Shot put 12.2m

High jump 1.54m

400m 60.95

110mH 15.77

Discus 37.48m

Pole vault 3.8m

Javelin 37.43m

1500m 5:46.84

I think Frognog could win the high-jump with a standing jump and maybe win the shot and the discus but he'd get hammered in the running events.

Froning would be drug tested if he wanted to compete in the Olympics. So the answer to the question is no.

Randy Oldman wrote:

The decathlon WR for a 60 year old is 7773 points, which consisted of

on what scoring system is that 7773? It's not anywhere near that in the regular scoring system.

I believe the decathlon is specific events, not exercising real fast.

You just don't get it. A good decathlete is a great athlete who could be useful at most sports with minimal training. Froning would lose terribly in every track event and sport to a high school girl no matter how much he trains. He would lose to an average guy at almost any sport. He is not a great or even good athlete. He is good at x-fit, which translates into being able to beat an average guy in exactly zero random sports. What he does has little value in any sport. He can't beat runners, he can't beat lifters, he can't beat decathletes, he can't beat tennis players, golfers, swimmers, skiers, whatever. He can only beat x-fitters. He is fit in a very lopsided way. He can lift pretty well, but not outstanding for his size. He is very slow even for his size. He has pitiful endurance for somebody who works out a lot.

No...that's not accurate...he is an extremely good lifter...outstanding for his size. And his endurance is extraordinary...but it an endurance for lifting heavy stuff over and over more than anything. He has a reputable running coach now that says he will run 5:20 for the mile. Not sure if that's true but he can already run 6:00 so can probably get to 5:40 or so. Also he's very impressive on the Concept II ERG (rowing)....maybe 6:40 or so for 2K...not shabby by any means.

No way is he suited to the decathlon...but thinking he's not a good athlete shows astounding ignorance. Just because the Crossfit organization is run by some of the biggest jerks on the face of the earth does not mean you have to refuse to give credit where credit is due.

PTF wrote:

No way is he suited to the decathlon...but thinking he's not a good athlete shows astounding ignorance. Just because the Crossfit organization is run by some of the biggest jerks on the face of the earth does not mean you have to refuse to give credit where credit is due.

At what athletic endeavor would he be competitive at a state-wide high school level?

Age-graded Decathlon Tables

elephino wrote:

Randy Oldman wrote:

The decathlon WR for a 60 year old is 7773 points, which consisted of

on what scoring system is that 7773? It's not anywhere near that in the regular scoring system.

high school kid asks wrote:

PTF wrote:

No way is he suited to the decathlon...but thinking he's not a good athlete shows astounding ignorance. Just because the Crossfit organization is run by some of the biggest jerks on the face of the earth does not mean you have to refuse to give credit where credit is due.

At what athletic endeavor would he be competitive at a state-wide high school level?

Yes, which? In which sport could Froning win a girl's state championship? The answer is of course, none.

Basically, what they are saying is that Froning would be good at bricklaying or moving hay bales. Something that requires repetitive lifting, but no speed, no agility, no skill, no coordination

He just can't compete wrote:

high school kid asks wrote:

At what athletic endeavor would he be competitive at a state-wide high school level?

Yes, which? In which sport could Froning win a girl's state championship? The answer is of course, none.

Basically, what they are saying is that Froning would be good at bricklaying or moving hay bales. Something that requires repetitive lifting, but no speed, no agility, no skill, no coordination

Froning could probably make a high school football team in some of the northern states like Maine. He wouldn't be varsity in Texas, Florida, Alabama, and couldn't get a D1 scholarship, but he might be OK. He could probably train to make a high school wrestling team. He could do junior high school track. But, the same could be said about almost any random frat boy.

high school kid asks wrote:

PTF wrote:

No way is he suited to the decathlon...but thinking he's not a good athlete shows astounding ignorance. Just because the Crossfit organization is run by some of the biggest jerks on the face of the earth does not mean you have to refuse to give credit where credit is due.

At what athletic endeavor would he be competitive at a state-wide high school level?

How should I don't know? Crossfit doesn't test those things. But if they had Olympic lifting or rowing, he'd do really well. I think he's good at football and ice hockey cause he plays those sports regularly. Who cares?

PTF wrote:

high school kid asks wrote:

At what athletic endeavor would he be competitive at a state-wide high school level?

How should I don't know? Crossfit doesn't test those things. But if they had Olympic lifting or rowing, he'd do really well. I think he's good at football and ice hockey cause he plays those sports regularly. Who cares?

Well, the claim is that Froning is a great athlete. Yet he would lose in EVERY sport to high school girls.

We Care wrote:

PTF wrote:

How should I don't know? Crossfit doesn't test those things. But if they had Olympic lifting or rowing, he'd do really well. I think he's good at football and ice hockey cause he plays those sports regularly. Who cares?

Well, the claim is that Froning is a great athlete. Yet he would lose in EVERY sport to high school girls.

The top high school girls would smoke most people on here in many events.

Not sure the obsession with this guy though. He's apparently at the top in the sport (or whatever you want to call it) he has chosen to compete in. Most can't claim that.

yes he could

You all know Froning was a D2 baseball player so he does have some contemporary sport success. Also most of the top cross fitters played college sports at some level.

I think the crossfit hate comes from this fringe sport having a higher profile than running, another fringe sport.

The hate runs so deep but I don't see anyone here giving crossfit a try and showing them how much better a sub 15 5k guy is at their sport.

What you guys are saying about crossfit most other athletes say about running. He wasn't good enough for football so he runs sprints. He wasn't good enough for any skill sport so he runs XC.

Just get over yourselves.

The whole "fittest man alive" title is BS. It's just marketing. Relax.

Alan

Cross Fit USA wrote:

Assume he gave up Cross Fit during this time and solely focused on the decathlon for the five years. He also had a top-notch decathlon coach. Would his incredible strength, versatility and power transfer over to the decathlon? I think he would excel in the shot, put and javelin, obviously. The pole vault he would need to spend extra time becoming proficient but he has four years. The High hurdles too may be difficult. But with his power and strength he would excel in the high jump and long jump. He would be a beast in maybe 6 events, competent in 2 and hopefully serviceable in the other two. Could he do it?

Hahahahaha

He couldn't beat the best high school girls in the decathlon if he trained for 20 years. Dude is way slow.