Quartet of runners reached split 27:40 at 10k in the Valentia half marathon...

I'm confused why is a Rupp thread titled Quartet of ...?

rojo wrote:

It drives me nuts when people write crazy stuff on the mboard.

douglas burke wrote: Rupp can probably go under 59 as well.

No. 'Likely' is far from the right term.

Are you really just now noticing that douglas burke, who deserves credit for at least being good-natured, has been saying outlandish shit on this forum for roughly 4,000 days now? There have been times when I've actually suspected that you are rojo are behind the screen name and use it to get people all fired up. Between him and Ryan Foreman it's like an ongoing festival of abject confusion about all things running-related.

MarathonMind wrote:

26:44 is watered down?!

When four guys in a small race split sub-27:40 in a half marathon?

Yes, that does show where the top distance talent is, and it's not on the track.

Only runners who don't need prize money (aka fat sponshorships, aka US/Euro runners, aka the world's second-tier) bother with with track 10,000. How much more obvious can it be?

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Only runners who don't need prize money (aka fat sponshorships, aka US/Euro runners, aka the world's second-tier) bother with with track 10,000.

you need to look more closely at your tv screen and you'll see some africans

coach.... wrote:

you need to look more closely at your tv screen and you'll see some africans

You need to look more closely at posts before you respond to them. He didn't say there were no Africans. He said there were second-tier runners.

rojo wrote:

Modern era, Rupp is the greatest? False.

Kenenisa Bekele is the greatest of the 'modern' era. You seem to arbitrarily define the modern era as the last 5 years. Even if that's the case, then I'd Farah is clearly the #1. Then Jeilen certainly is also above Rupp.

But the best in the modern era is Bekele.

You conveniently left his third fastest 10,000 off of your list - 26 minutes, 25.97 seconds - Eugene 2008.

The guy ran 26:25 jet lagged at like 8 am in Eugene with little help from rabbit (final 12 laps all by himself). Rupp had Sambu rabbiting him for 8000 meters at night and ran 26:44. Bekele was nearly a second per lap better.

Rupp is great - for an American. But to compare him to Bekele is flat out wrong.

Yet Rupp beat Bekele and Bekele in the Olympics. The top stage of the game, and Rupp made Bekele look like a child. The race that everyone trained for all year, and Rupp came out on top of Bekele. And I can bet you that Rupp would take down Farah in any 10k they run in 2015 and 2016.

I also didn't conveniently leave off Bekele's third best time. I only kept on the two best times from everyone on that list.

Rupp is the best (i.e. fastest) active 10k runner.

MTRaceTimer wrote:

Yet Rupp beat Bekele and Bekele in the Olympics. The top stage of the game, and Rupp made Bekele look like a child. The race that everyone trained for all year, and Rupp came out on top of Bekele. And I can bet you that Rupp would take down Farah in any 10k they run in 2015 and 2016.

I also didn't conveniently leave off Bekele's third best time. I only kept on the two best times from everyone on that list.

Rupp is the best (i.e. fastest) active 10k runner.

Ah you blew your cover with this post troll. Too obvious now.

MTRaceTimer wrote:

Rupp is therefore the best 10k runner of the modern era in terms of time.

I can only assume you are joking.

First off the modern times is not 5 years, it would have to be at least a decade. Also, Rupp is fortunate to have run in some fast well paced races, most 10Ks are tactical affairs. With that said, Rupp is very good and I would put him at about 5th or 6th best, but that has more to do with his silver medal.

Lol, Kenny has run faster for the 2nd half of a 10000m than Galen has run for a 5000m, ever.

When (if) Rupp wins a gold at anything, then he can consider himself (or be considered by anyone else) the best. He is not Farah and hasn't yet beasten him, and while Bekele has struggled (presumably due to injury) on the track recently, and has apparently moved to the marathon, Rupp is no where near 26.25 (2008) level let alone 26.17, so it doesn't really matter. The 10000m has seemingly become a non-entity. Frankly they might as well get rid of the event at major championships. Maybe then people might actualy bother to try and race faster in 5000m races at these meets.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

MarathonMind wrote:

26:44 is watered down?!

When four guys in a small race split sub-27:40 in a half marathon?

Yes, that does show where the top distance talent is, and it's not on the track.

Only runners who don't need prize money (aka fat sponshorships, aka US/Euro runners, aka the world's second-tier) bother with with track 10,000. How much more obvious can it be?

MarathonMind wrote:

No. 26:44 is not watered down. But keep digging that hole.

26:44 in a perfectly rabbited time trial and no one else running close to that time IS watered down. You are the only one who is digging a hole here.

The world record is 26:17. There was once 3 runners that ran sub 13 for the second half of a 10k. The junior record is 26:41.

26:44 as the leading time IS watered down.

rojo wrote:

Let me correct a few factual inaccuracies. It drives me nuts when people write crazy stuff on the mboard.

Man what type of drugs are you guys on?

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There is a pretty easy way to clean that up. Registration. Obviously part of the fun of this board is NOT having registration and registration would bring this board and website to it's knees, which you know. How about registration where you have your real name, but also one troll name. That way you only ever get two names you can post from, that's it.

The crazy would be reduced somewhat at least.

Paul Tanui finished second in 26:49 but apparently that's not close enough for you. Nobody had broken 26:50 since 2011. Very few ever do.

But apparently (in some people's minds) 26:44 is no big deal.

MarathonMind wrote:

Paul Tanui finished second in 26:49 but apparently that's not close enough for you. Nobody had broken 26:50 since 2011. Very few ever do.

But apparently (in some people's minds) 26:44 is no big deal.

No one said it was no big deal. We said it was watered down. Learn to read. If you can't see that 26:44 is slower than 26:17 then you are the one with the problem here, not us.

No. Clearly the intent is to belittle 26:44, which coming from the clueless who haven't one millionth of Rupp's talent is laughable.

If all 4 of that quartet from Kenya ran 10k in 26:30, ONE of them still would not go to the Olympics. That is why they are on the roads and not the track.

And? Leo Manzano's has an Olympic silver medal, he beat all the Kenyans (Kiprop included), Iguider, Willis, and Centrowitz, does that make him one of the all time greats? The top tier of the era?