It is laughable that Letsrunners are so negative about Tracksmith.
The creators obviously love the sport. Reading the product descriptions it is pretty clear that have thought a lot about the history and how to bring some classic elements into modern products.
Even the sizing makes sense for runners and not the average American lardo.
Are you haters really just mad just because you can't afford it?
Did you hate on Reckless Running, too?
A Dork wrote:
It is laughable that Letsrunners are so negative about Tracksmith.
The creators obviously love the sport. Reading the product descriptions it is pretty clear that have thought a lot about the history and how to bring some classic elements into modern products.
Even the sizing makes sense for runners and not the average American lardo.
Are you haters really just mad just because you can't afford it?
Did you hate on Reckless Running, too?
I am with you. And yes, Reckless Running got slammed on here when it was first released.
A Dork wrote:
It is laughable that Letsrunners are so negative about Tracksmith.
The creators obviously love the sport. Reading the product descriptions it is pretty clear that have thought a lot about the history and how to bring some classic elements into modern products.
Even the sizing makes sense for runners and not the average American lardo.
Are you haters really just mad just because you can't afford it?
Did you hate on Reckless Running, too?
I don't hate Tracksmith, but I just don't see the point.
I like their simple shorts, but not at that price point. I can get a pair that's just as durable, just as good looking, and in a wider varierty of colors for half the price.
Instead of their cotton workout tee with \"Tracksmith\" in big letters, I'd rather wear my college workout tee that actually has some meaning to me. Why would I buy an expensive imitation college workout tee when I have a cheap authentic one? I assume most of their target market has an authetic one as well.
I do dig the singlet, but again, not at that price. And, like others have said, most in their target market run for schools or clubs; they've already got their own singlets.
Props to these guys, but what they have now, it's just not my thing. But if they did come out with a cool hooded sweatshirt or track jacket, I actually might be interested. As long as they didn't cost $100, of course.
So, has anyone bought and worn this stuff yet? I noticed the website says they are sold out so someone is buying it (I'm sure their initial production run was pretty limited, but still). I like the look of the stuff but like most on here think it is pretty pricey. I am curious though if anyone has an actual review after wearing it.
They, are still out of stock. Must be nearly 3 weeks since they've run out now. Production line problems???
Does anyone have the longfellow short - would never run in these but they look nice for wearing around. whats the material like?
theSausageKing wrote:
Does anyone have the longfellow short - would never run in these but they look nice for wearing around. whats the material like?
Scott Douglas (co-author of Pfitzinger's books) gave the Longfellows a nice review.
Seems to be the only review out there.
U MAD Bro...? wrote:
Crazedseepies wrote:OP asked why people on here generally didn't like the site. I answered.
OP didn't ask you anything. OP made a statement. I agree with his statement. Just because you cannot afford the clothing doesn't mean it's a bad business decision.
Sorry, buddy. OP said "Why do that? Why do you want to limit your choices?"
Detroit Radian Sixers wrote:
Dr. Cheswick wrote:Apparel is a notoriously fickle industry, and peddling trendy men's running clothes exclusively via a Website is rife with problems. Sans any retail outlets and a women's product line, they'll burn through that VC scratch in a hurry.
There is an interesting thing with men's apparel: we are less likely to want to try it on prior to buying. If you look outside of running at companies like Bonobos and other brands, they really elevated their sales by strictly relying on Internet sales and promotion (initially). The website was king. As they continued to grow, they turned their focus to other areas, but you could say that was due to entering the women's market.
You are right that apparel is extremely fickle and hard to replicate. What works with one brand might totally fail with another. We'll have to see what happens.
This is exactly right. The playbook for direct to consumer fashion websites is pretty well established at this point, and is even taught in business schools. Bonobos, Everlane, Gustin, Kent Wang, Howard Yount...they've all figured it out. The last thing you want to do as a fashion startup is have to commit inventory to brick and mortar stores (at wholesale prices, no less!). Each store needs to have a complete run of sizes, and as soon as some sizes are out of stock, the rest usually go on sale. With one central online store, the same quantity of product lasts longer before certain sizes are exhausted. Even worse, with smaller wholesalers who don't have much negotiating leverage, they're often forced to take back any unsold product. When you start online-only, you can take advantage of a global marketplace in order to get up to minimum economies of scale.
I really like the tracksmith stuff. I just wish I had the coin to afford it. There's room for it in the market. We need high end, low end, wild cutting edge stuff, and restrained stuff.
There are lots of runners, we shouldn't all be wearing 1 of 5 pr of shorts.
Long Live the Oligarchy!
Their products are very pricy, but they are made very very well and are comfortable.
Hello everyone, it is all about personal choice and what you can afford. It won't make you run faster, and i am sure you can find alternative products 4-5 times cheaper. I think some of the claims they make about their products are also incorrect.
I suppose they have to charge high prices to try and create a brand image. Also they have to satisfy their investors who have pumped nearly $6 million into the brand.
DenaliLama wrote:
The parody site to tracksmith is pretty funny.
http://running.teamjva.com/
Damn, that's good.
Hello everyone, it is all about personal choice and what you can afford. It won't make you run faster, and i am sure you can find alternative products 4-5 times cheaper. I think some of the claims they make about their products are also incorrect.
I suppose they have to charge high prices to try and create a brand image. Also they have to satisfy their investors who have pumped nearly $6 million into the brand.
i am starting my own sportswear brand working from my spare bedroom, take a look
Frankly, I like them. I'm old, not rich but have always gone by the premise, "you get what you pay for." I have 3 "grayboy" t-shirts @ $55 a pop. Had them since they were first introduced. I beat the hell out of them: summer runs, yard work, hiked, camped, etc. They show no wear. My other Ts at $15 and up last a couple of years at best. These are made in the States and incorporate some hefty materials. I also dropped the bucks on the merino long sleeves w/ silk and rayon - I love them - no pilling. Again, I"m not rich, but I still have the premium goose down SnowLion sleeping bag I dropped $135 on back in 1976 - keeps me warm to -5. Tracksmith stuff is functional; I wish they would expand their offerings.
I dont realy get this anger towards this particular brand.
If i'm correct the Tracksmith running gear is made in the Boston area. If this is true, paying 15-20$ more for a papir of shorts or a shirt is not to bad. At least you can be sure your running gear is not made by children in Bangladesh or workers on a 12h shift for no money in China. That should be worth something.
I do agree that there would be a great deal of vanity involved in buying this kind of running gear, but that is surely also the case (for me at last) when chosing one Nike shirt over another.
Sorry for my spelling, english is not my native tounge.
I never understand the outrage over a grassroots brand like Tracksmith. Is there any reason it might hard the sport in any way? I love this shorts I have from them. Very comfy and well crafty. So go screw.
there stuff looks so much nicer than the normal running sh*t available. it's not that expensive either. you sound cheapPlus, it's less expensive than buying nice cycling and outdoor clothing, like Rapha, Mission Workshop, Nau, Aether or similar. My Aether gear is expensive but the best quality clothing i've been able to find. Makes Arc'teryx seem cheapyou are probably an earth-killing IKEA and Target shopper with crappy clothes and lame furniture, aren't you?ask a non-runner what they think and most will say Tracksmith looks goodwake up
Crazedseepies wrote:
Because making ridiculously overpriced products for the sake of fashion is total BS and does not help advance the sport in any way.
The parody site hits the nail on the head. It isn't about more choices. It's about taking advantage of rich people and hoping you make a lot of money.
That business model will never make running more popular. It will never help out the sport. And they certainly don't provide more choice in the market because most people can't afford such dumb products. They aren't looking to compete with Nike or anyone else. They're just trying to take advantage of a few idiots who will spend a lot of money for potentially inferior products. Like a $65 cotton t-shirt with one word on it.
I'm all for new companies and competition, but companies like this will never make a dent in the Nike, Brooks, Saucony, Adidas, Asics, etc. Bottom line.