dataman II wrote:
I would guess that that average mile time of an average high schooler who is reasonably fit would but did zero training would be a little under 7:00 minutes or so.
How does one become "reasonably fit" with zero training?
Average in my HS was well north of 7:00, but we ran the thing indoors in the hallways with lots of turns.
Kenny Smith, former NBA player, ran a 4:20-something mile in collge (NC-Chapel Hill)
Hardloper wrote:
dataman II wrote:I would guess that that average mile time of an average high schooler who is reasonably fit would but did zero training would be a little under 7:00 minutes or so.
How does one become "reasonably fit" with zero training?
Average in my HS was well north of 7:00, but we ran the thing indoors in the hallways with lots of turns.
Grow up working on a farm.
I ran a mile on the track with a friend who was a D3 college tennis player after his sophomore year, he did 4:55. He had never run track and didn't run for training. I'm sure plenty of other athletes could do this too but they don't have friends who are runners talking them into five minutes of hard running.
I coached a freshman who ran 4:57 after running for a week.
salid bar wrote:
So many ex-pro cyclists doing casual training going 2:25-45 for marathons in retirement. Just goes to show how incredible pro cyclists are and how it's likely the superior endurance sport.
Most pro cyclists I know were moderate level college runners who went to cycling and made it easy.
salid bar wrote:
Doubt it. Proof? Thought so.
InWyo wrote:A CAT2 cyclist who has never competed in running ran a 4:21 mile
I wish. My mile PR is 4:24, and on that day he almost towed me to a PR. I ran 4:26 that day. This guy was a professional mountain biker for Specialized for a while and has placed pretty high at cyclo cross nationals a few times, and has also placed pretty high at Sea Otter. He's a pretty special athlete. His name is Dan Barry
troll richter wrote:
Fastest non-runner mile I've heard of: a 12 year old Louie Quintana ran sub 5:00 as a non-running 12-year-old. He ran much faster once he took up running.
Quintana ran about 4:30 in his high school debut at 15
My dad was in the army reserves the year after Billy Mills was there. He said that Mills ran a 4:20 mile in Army boots. People thought he had finished a lap early so they made him do it the next day and ran a 4:19.
Earl Campbell had a pretty solid mile back in the day
About 20 years ago I took a coaching job at a small private high school. We patrolled the hallways for anyone with potential (or even looked like they had potential).
We talked a junior basketball player to come out. After two weeks of BS drills and other silly stuff for the new kids, we had a scrimmage. He ran 4:40 off of nothing.
He ran XC the next fall and made states. Played hoops again senior year in the winter. Spring of his senior year he ran 4:18 and 1:53.
Went to run at a Big East school that destroyed him and he dropped out after several years of continual injuries. Works for his Dads electrical contracting company.
After well over 20 years of coaching, I can still say that he may have been on of the most gifted athletes I have had the privelage of coaching.
I still have kids on my team who think that a 1500 is a mile.
I coached high school track at a boys school.
I put a shot putter in the mile when he guaranteed me he would not come in last.
He was 200 lbs. about 5'6"
He ran 5:38
I was impressed